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Gothmog

(145,321 posts) Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:50 PM Dec 2019

Los Angeles Times Biden is winning the electability primary




So far, the electability primary has a clear winner: former Vice President Joe Biden.

Biden’s campaign hasn’t been inspiring or error-free — far from it. He’s clung to first place in national polls, with support from about 28% of Democratic voters, but he’s running behind other candidates in Iowa and New Hampshire, where the first votes will be cast.

Nevertheless, when voters are asked who they think is most electable against Trump, Biden wins. Even some voters who prefer other candidates say Biden has the best shot.

In a CNN Poll released last week, 40% of Democrats nationwide said they believe Biden has the best chance of winning a general election, well ahead of his rivals. Other surveys have shown similar results....

Biden argues that Trump’s attacks on him prove that he’s the candidate the president fears most. In other words: electability.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Los Angeles Times Biden is winning the electability primary (Original Post) Gothmog Dec 2019 OP
Biden Inspires Me.. He has the best experience and Qualifications AND Cha Dec 2019 #1
Ditto! Tarheel_Dem Dec 2019 #11
.. Cha Dec 2019 #15
K&R! nt TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #2
Steady Joe. George II Dec 2019 #3
This makes me smile Gothmog Dec 2019 #34
and he spends little time bad mouthing the party for which he intends to be th candidate nt msongs Dec 2019 #4
He is the most electability especially in the swing states Butterflylady Dec 2019 #5
Date the others, marry Biden. nt Kahuna7 Dec 2019 #6
Well-said! Skya Rhen Dec 2019 #7
I've heard that said here... great analogy!! Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #8
I said it before... Kahuna7 Dec 2019 #10
Its a puzzle to me, but OK Perseus Dec 2019 #9
No reason to be puzzled judeling Dec 2019 #12
How do voters get their perceptions of electability? Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #13
Ignoring electability is how we blew Florida governor with Andrew Gillum Awsi Dooger Dec 2019 #18
"The candidate the president fears most." Most? He doesn't fear any of the other candidates. TheFourthMind Dec 2019 #14
I am slowly but surely migrating to the Biden camp. comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #16
Go Joe Gothmog Dec 2019 #17
Joe Biden also leading the polls and the icing on the cake is Voters LOVE Biden! Gothmog Dec 2019 #19
Tony Evers says a pragmatic Democrat can carry Wisconsin in 2020 Gothmog Dec 2019 #20
Whoa! This would make Cha Dec 2019 #23
Russia's attacks also. I estimate those by fringe media claims Hortensis Dec 2019 #21
trump is very afraid of Joe Biden Gothmog Dec 2019 #25
In spite of all those trying Cha Dec 2019 #22
The electability primary has a clear winner: former Vice President Joe Biden. Gothmog Dec 2019 #24
And how do voters form their opinion on who is most electable? Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #26
Biden is winning the LA times primary Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #27
Bernie Sanders Drops 7 Points In 2 Weeks With Early State Voters Gothmog Dec 2019 #30
Cool. Biden won. He should stop campaigning then. Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #31
According to 538 Biden is in the lead in Iowa and NH! Gothmog Dec 2019 #32
Cool! Hes all wrapped up. He can now go home and spend more time with his grandchildren Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #33
A no brainer. Most qualified and experienced. Only candidate with FP cred and widespread emmaverybo Dec 2019 #28
Looking good VP Biden, with just 35 days to go until the Iowa caucus all your hard work is paying of Gothmog Dec 2019 #29
Joe Biden is the only candidate beating trump Gothmog Jan 2020 #35
 

Cha

(297,322 posts)
1. Biden Inspires Me.. He has the best experience and Qualifications AND
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:55 PM
Dec 2019

he's a UNITER.. NOT a DIVIDER.

Mahalo, Goth

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msongs

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4. and he spends little time bad mouthing the party for which he intends to be th candidate nt
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Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:19 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Butterflylady

(3,544 posts)
5. He is the most electability especially in the swing states
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:25 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
6. Date the others, marry Biden. nt
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:27 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Thekaspervote

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8. I've heard that said here... great analogy!!
Reply to Kahuna7 (Reply #6)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:37 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Perseus

(4,341 posts)
9. Its a puzzle to me, but OK
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:44 PM
Dec 2019

If he is nominated he will have my support, but nonetheless I am puzzled, and even after his comments about America needing the republican party...No, USA does not need the American party, at least not the current one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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judeling

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12. No reason to be puzzled
Reply to Perseus (Reply #9)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:07 PM
Dec 2019

A tremendous amount of Name Id and a desire to forget Trump happened.

Nationally people are aware and interested in the nomination but not so much involved. Where people are involved Biden is not doing nearly as well.

Biden is leading nationally so he is by default the most electable. Nothing really hardens until after New Years. At least in a multi-candidate field.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Fiendish Thingy

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13. How do voters get their perceptions of electability?
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:48 PM
Dec 2019

From the MSM media polls and pundits- how else would one form an opinion of who is electable or not? The media spoon feeds their narrative, then polls folks about their opinions about the other polls...like a snake eating its own tail...

Obama wasn't perceived as being the "most electable" at this point in 2007...

"Inevitability" narratives don't usually turn out well, and those who perpetuate them do a disservice to the electorate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Awsi Dooger

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18. Ignoring electability is how we blew Florida governor with Andrew Gillum
Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #13)
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 08:23 PM
Dec 2019

There are always hints ahead of time. If we choose to ignore the Gillum example and nominate someone who will be spit out as simply too liberal in one swing state after another, we will have earned our fate

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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TheFourthMind

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14. "The candidate the president fears most." Most? He doesn't fear any of the other candidates.
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:54 PM
Dec 2019

He got impeached trying to get this one guy out of the game. That degree of fear is the only thing making me feel that my vote might actually count, or be counted.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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comradebillyboy

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16. I am slowly but surely migrating to the Biden camp.
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:00 AM
Dec 2019

I've been resisting for months now but I really don't see any viable alternative at the moment.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Gothmog

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19. Joe Biden also leading the polls and the icing on the cake is Voters LOVE Biden!
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Wed Dec 25, 2019, 11:16 PM
Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Gothmog

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20. Tony Evers says a pragmatic Democrat can carry Wisconsin in 2020
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 06:45 PM
Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(297,322 posts)
23. Whoa! This would make
Reply to Gothmog (Reply #20)
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 05:51 PM
Dec 2019

a nice OP! TY!

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Hortensis

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21. Russia's attacks also. I estimate those by fringe media claims
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 06:50 PM
Dec 2019

that he's slipping and other candidate surging. There's been a big jump in "funny-number" and other disinformation attacks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Gothmog

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25. trump is very afraid of Joe Biden
Reply to Hortensis (Reply #21)
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 10:39 PM
Dec 2019

trump would love to run against Warren or sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Cha

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22. In spite of all those trying
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 05:50 PM
Dec 2019

real hard to bring him down.

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Gothmog

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24. The electability primary has a clear winner: former Vice President Joe Biden.
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 10:38 PM
Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Fiendish Thingy

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26. And how do voters form their opinion on who is most electable?
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 10:42 PM
Dec 2019

From MSM pundits and inevitability narrative polls like these.

“I wonder who’s got the best shot at beating Trump?”

“Well, I heard on CNN...”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Tiggeroshii

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27. Biden is winning the LA times primary
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 10:46 PM
Dec 2019

Of whom only a select few are a part of, and Bernie absolutely is not.

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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Gothmog

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30. Bernie Sanders Drops 7 Points In 2 Weeks With Early State Voters
Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #27)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:30 PM
Dec 2019



Support for Sanders has fallen seven points among Democratic primary voters in Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire or South Carolina since our last survey conducted before the Democratic presidential debate on Dec. 19, as front-runner and former Vice President Joe Biden opens up a 16-point gap over the Vermont senator with those early-state voters.

– At a respective 32% and 21% in this latest tracking poll, the standings of Biden and Sanders are essentially unchanged among Democratic primary voters nationwide since early February.

– Buttigieg has risen from virtual obscurity in February to sit at 8% nationally, and while Warren has seen her support fall in recent months, her five-point increase since February places her as a top candidate.....

The negative view is that Sen. Sanders has a high floor for his support, but he also appears to have firm ceiling on how high he can go. Pete Buttigieg has taken away voters who might be looking for a non-Biden option, and Elizabeth Warren has taken voters on the left who in 2016 went to Sanders by default. Buttigieg Warren and are equally well funded and they will be in the primary for the long term. If Sanders doesn’t win early, there is a chance that he doesn’t win at all.
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Tiggeroshii

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31. Cool. Biden won. He should stop campaigning then.
Reply to Gothmog (Reply #30)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:39 PM
Dec 2019

Doesnt need to anymore, right?

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Gothmog

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32. According to 538 Biden is in the lead in Iowa and NH!
Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #31)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:55 PM
Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Tiggeroshii

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33. Cool! Hes all wrapped up. He can now go home and spend more time with his grandchildren
Reply to Gothmog (Reply #32)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:05 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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emmaverybo

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28. A no brainer. Most qualified and experienced. Only candidate with FP cred and widespread
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:01 AM
Dec 2019

emotional appeal across political and demographic and regional spectrums. Most likely to unify others around our democratic values and restore international alliances. A great guy. Proven leadership. Unmatched CV. Terrific VP for our favorite prez, Obama.
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If I were to vote in a presidential
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Gothmog

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29. Looking good VP Biden, with just 35 days to go until the Iowa caucus all your hard work is paying of
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:29 PM
Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Gothmog

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35. Joe Biden is the only candidate beating trump
Reply to Gothmog (Original post)
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 01:36 PM
Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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