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highplainsdem

(49,001 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:39 PM Dec 2019

The attacks on Buttigieg for the wine-cave fundraiser are likely to backfire on both BS and EW

Anyone foolish enough to be upset about the wine cave fundraiser is probably already supporting BS or EW.

No one who's currently a Buttigieg supporter, or undecided, is likely to be impressed by the silly purity test, especially coming from two multimillionaires who each own multiple homes.

Maybe this will sell a few more t-shirts for BS (I saw a headline saying his campaign has a wine cave tee now). But I can't see any other way this malarkey about the wine cave will help either BS or EW as they go farther out on that too-far-left branch.

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The attacks on Buttigieg for the wine-cave fundraiser are likely to backfire on both BS and EW (Original Post) highplainsdem Dec 2019 OP
That's why neither has a chance at the nomination madville Dec 2019 #1
Not a good look for Warren or Sanders....K&R Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #2
+1 TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #9
Sanders not so much judeling Dec 2019 #3
Actually, most of the news mentions I've heard of the Great Wine Cave Debate of 2019 also refer to highplainsdem Dec 2019 #5
And I liked his response: please give him $2800, a donation from a millionaire question everything Dec 2019 #17
"Wine cave" is too easy. Much more so than windsurfing, for instance. David__77 Dec 2019 #10
And, by the way, Klobuchar has the best comments on it. David__77 Dec 2019 #12
It's silly. Scurrilous Dec 2019 #4
Castro has joined in too Generic Brad Dec 2019 #6
Possibly Castro hopes to be Warren's VP. highplainsdem Dec 2019 #7
K&R! nt TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #8
Yep MustLoveBeagles Dec 2019 #11
LOL bahrbearian Dec 2019 #13
Horseshoe theory? Scurrilous Dec 2019 #14
Not going to lie but I lost respect for Warren on this LeftTurn3623 Dec 2019 #15
I am right there with you... not_the_one Dec 2019 #16
What is she supposed to contrast with? judeling Dec 2019 #22
Has nothing to do with it LeftTurn3623 Dec 2019 #24
I am sure people can see the hypocrisy in this nt NYMinute Dec 2019 #18
Or a Biden supporter! Cha Dec 2019 #19
I hope so... comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #20
Somebody needs to take these people to a whine cave, LuvNewcastle Dec 2019 #21
They already have. Yamiche Alcindor said it best. wiley Dec 2019 #23
 

madville

(7,412 posts)
1. That's why neither has a chance at the nomination
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:44 PM
Dec 2019

You don’t openly declare war on the big money and influencers behind the scenes in our party.

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Demsrule86

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2. Not a good look for Warren or Sanders....K&R
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:44 PM
Dec 2019
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judeling

(1,086 posts)
3. Sanders not so much
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:13 PM
Dec 2019

But the real question is how much it hurts Mayor Pete and I'll tell you it will. Media is much to superficial.

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highplainsdem

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5. Actually, most of the news mentions I've heard of the Great Wine Cave Debate of 2019 also refer to
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:29 PM
Dec 2019

Warren having done similar fundraisers in the past. Which makes the point that they're typical fundraisers.

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question everything

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17. And I liked his response: please give him $2800, a donation from a millionaire
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:28 AM
Dec 2019

which he will greatly accept.


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David__77

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10. "Wine cave" is too easy. Much more so than windsurfing, for instance.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:55 PM
Dec 2019

Plus, perhaps sadly, it probably synerigizes with other stereotypes which I’m familiar with as a gay person.

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David__77

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12. And, by the way, Klobuchar has the best comments on it.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:02 PM
Dec 2019

While she didn’t exactly pile on about the wine cave, the contrast to the wind cave she referenced is pretty clear to me!

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Scurrilous

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4. It's silly.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:27 PM
Dec 2019


"Strange billionaires drinking in caves distributing money should have no place in our system of government."

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Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
6. Castro has joined in too
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:29 PM
Dec 2019

I just saw him on MSNBC implying Buttegieg changed position on immigration because he's been bought. I am turned off when candidates who try to gain attention at the expense of attempting to diminish a peer.

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highplainsdem

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7. Possibly Castro hopes to be Warren's VP.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:37 PM
Dec 2019
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Scurrilous

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14. Horseshoe theory?
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:39 PM
Dec 2019




"Take a stroll down the wine isle next time you are grocery shopping-so many labels with dark ominous labels."

"And many many Dems happen to own wineries with caves on their properties. Especially CA dems."

"I agree. There’s more to the wine caves. Much more."

"I have noticed in the last decade, that smaller boutique wineries have popped up in the Napa region with names sounding satanic or sexual in nature. It wasn’t always like that. Pelosi has a home there. There are a lot of wine caves in Napa."

"I have a feeling there are going to be some twisted stories coming out about the wineries in Napa and their “caves.” Those tunnels/caves are all over and I believe some run down to Long Beach port to pick up the kiddos."

"Pelosi owns a winery."

"I could tell a story about an experience I had with wine, long story, but here's the deal, there is a reason it is used in religious ceremonies. Be careful of who makes it, where it comes from and for sure bless it. Never drink wine from the Baccas Valley."

"It reminds me of the underground torture rooms used by the Inquisition. I have visited a few of them, and they look just like this ‘wine cellar’: bricks walls and floor, and arched corridors."

"Stephen Colbert's joke about the onyx used for the tables in Mayor Pete's Wine Cave fundraiser made my blood run cold."

"Vena cava Multiple meanings exist Wine seller Some wine is very expensive This one goes deep."


Whenever qanon, in its own unique way, joins in on your crusade, you become consociate with 'the storm.'
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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
15. Not going to lie but I lost respect for Warren on this
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:11 AM
Dec 2019

She was my 2nd favorite and that’s gone now.

Evan the attacks of Amy were pathetic. Obama was criticized for not having experience also and he turned out to be a great president

If you notice Senators or congressman normally don’t become president Obama was able to break through.

People look for people that actually have govern.

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not_the_one

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16. I am right there with you...
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:27 AM
Dec 2019

EW seemed like a "gotcha" moment, and Amy just seemed petty and condescending.

Both had my respect, but both took a hit.

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judeling

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22. What is she supposed to contrast with?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:56 AM
Dec 2019

I won in a state that Hillary barely won while winning in the majority of counties that Trump did, You won in a city where Hillary crushed Trump.
I'm the most effective Democratic Senator of the last ten years and you backed off selling a golf course.

She could have been a lot more Petty the she was.

This is not as everybody likes to say a job interview. It is an audition, where people are competing against each other. She is running on her resume. He is running on something else.

I have also heard she had prepared that contrast, well of course she had, she is always prepared, in that profession you better be.

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LeftTurn3623

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24. Has nothing to do with it
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 04:38 AM
Dec 2019

She was attacking Pete for really no reason - why doesn’t she go after Biden? He is the front runner.

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NYMinute

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18. I am sure people can see the hypocrisy in this nt
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:28 AM
Dec 2019
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Cha

(297,303 posts)
19. Or a Biden supporter!
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:46 AM
Dec 2019

I think it's a detriment.

Thank you!

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LuvNewcastle

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21. Somebody needs to take these people to a whine cave,
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 01:52 AM
Dec 2019

where they can nitpick all night long.

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wiley

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23. They already have. Yamiche Alcindor said it best.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 06:11 AM
Dec 2019

She said it really made Pete look tough, like he could stand on his feet and not back down when Trump attacked. He really impressed us.

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