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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 01:59 PM Dec 2019

Warren shifts stance on big money fundraisers in general election

Warren is only avoiding high dollar fundraisers during the primary and will be relying on PAC funds and attending high dollar private fundraisers during the general election is she is the nominee https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/warren-shifts-stance-big-money-fundraisers-general-election/story?id=66168168

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a Democratic presidential candidate who recently proved herself as a top fundraiser in the 2020 race, said this week she will not stop rejecting PAC money or avoiding closed-door, high-dollar fundraisers beyond the Democratic primary and into the general election if she becomes the party’s nominee.

I am glad that Senator Warren only intends to continue the plan to use only small dollar donations during the primary and will be attending private fundraisers if she is the nominee. Otherwise, trump will have a significant financial advantage in the general election
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Warren shifts stance on big money fundraisers in general election (Original Post) Gothmog Dec 2019 OP
"Stunt"? Why post an old article from October? bluewater Dec 2019 #1
Has warren changed her plans again? Gothmog Dec 2019 #6
Your article is from OCTOBER, did you miss that, again? bluewater Dec 2019 #7
You do know that this issue was discussed at the last debate Gothmog Dec 2019 #9
Again, the source of your self stated confusion escapes me. bluewater Dec 2019 #31
How can the same type of fundraiser be evil during primary but okay later/ Gothmog Dec 2019 #45
Why is a primary campaign different from a GE campaign from the standpoint of fundraising? George II Dec 2019 #48
Because some people Cha Dec 2019 #59
Yes.. and it's Still being discussed.. too bad if anyone Cha Dec 2019 #54
No she hasn't, and that is a good thing as you pointed out Goth. The only stipulation she made was still_one Dec 2019 #53
From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Dec 2019 #63
This is not a shift, it has been her position for a long time nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #2
No Kidding, the op article is 3 months old bluewater Dec 2019 #5
I was confused when she announced this plan and I am still confused Gothmog Dec 2019 #11
Were you also confused about the date of your OP aricle? bluewater Dec 2019 #19
Psst.. this isn't "latest breaking news" it's the "Democratic Primaries" Amimnoch Dec 2019 #25
But we would not want an old headline to mislead anyone, right? bluewater Dec 2019 #32
Who is mislead? Gothmog Dec 2019 #46
Casual readers by that THREE MONTH OLD op article headline bluewater Dec 2019 #50
Just a couple years ago Warren held a high-dollar fundraiser in a bank vault. Gothmog Dec 2019 #62
Just like I said she would do yesterday. nt BootinUp Dec 2019 #3
Um, this article is from OCTOBER bluewater Dec 2019 #4
Here is a December interview with Chris Hayes Gothmog Dec 2019 #8
So, Warren restated her existing position again in December? bluewater Dec 2019 #10
Just answer my question? Gothmog Dec 2019 #12
Did you relaize you were posting an OP article from back in OCTOBER? bluewater Dec 2019 #14
Again, this came up in the debate and you have not answered my question Gothmog Dec 2019 #17
So you DID know the OP article was from back in OCTOBER? bluewater Dec 2019 #21
Lighten up, Francis. I've babylonsister Dec 2019 #42
I don't beieve the op poster has said it was a mistake. bluewater Dec 2019 #44
It was not a mistake Gothmog Dec 2019 #49
The answer is, because she made high dollar fund-raising into an issue when she attacked Buttigieg LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #15
She has said this all along. Surprised you hadn't heard. blm Dec 2019 #13
So, it's bad for others, but ok for her because she'll fix it later? LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #16
No. She wanted to prove in the primary that it could be done. blm Dec 2019 #18
I can respect her for wanting to do without it; I condemn her for attacking another candidate LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #20
'Double talk', 'Making it up', 'elitist' crazytown Dec 2019 #22
I said none of those things LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #23
You said "I condemn her for attacking another candidate" crazytown Dec 2019 #27
I specifically defined my reason as it being a hypocritical attack LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #28
'Medicare for all who want it' - Biden: 'He stole it' 'It's the Biden plan' crazytown Dec 2019 #36
Which has nothing to do with the topic we are posting in. Would you like me to bring up Warren LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #37
I thought we were talking about hypocrisy. crazytown Dec 2019 #39
No I was talking about Warren changing her tune on fundraising. I yield the balance of my time. LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #40
I thank my friend, and would add, crazytown Dec 2019 #41
I think she wanted to hit back at Pete and his camp for their 3month long blm Dec 2019 #24
So what? If the response is a hypocritical attack, it will backfire like hers did LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #26
It wasn't hypocritical, but, easily spun that way blm Dec 2019 #30
She could have made the point that she no longer has such fundraisers; instead, she made comments LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #33
Pete is ahead in Iowa. She punched up. ;) blm Dec 2019 #35
+1000 bluewater Dec 2019 #38
It's not odd. What's odd is her targeting babylonsister Dec 2019 #43
For the general. Besides, it was really odd of her to not hit back at him blm Dec 2019 #47
WOW ! stonecutter357 Dec 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author blm Dec 2019 #34
I insist that Skidmore Dec 2019 #51
Lol...exactly Docreed2003 Dec 2019 #52
And, like betsuni said.. held in Cha Dec 2019 #55
But if you call them "grassroots fundraisers" it doesn't matter where you hold them ehrnst Dec 2019 #56
Why do it differently treestar Dec 2019 #57
for this thread Gothmog Dec 2019 #60
K&R nt NYMinute Dec 2019 #58
Warren embraced the high-dollar fundraising circuit for years Gothmog Dec 2019 #61
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
1. "Stunt"? Why post an old article from October?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:02 PM
Dec 2019

She will stop rejecting PAC money or avoiding private high-dollar fundraisers.
By
Cheyenne Haslett
,
Kendall Karson
and
Soo Rin Kim
October 10, 2019, 4:06 AM
9 min read



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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
6. Has warren changed her plans again?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:29 PM
Dec 2019

It is a good thing that Warren will not handicap the party or hurt down ballot candidates during the general election. To compete with the RNC and trump, the nominee will have to rely on private fundraisers and PAC or the party would have one hand tie behind its back.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
7. Your article is from OCTOBER, did you miss that, again?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:33 PM
Dec 2019

That's stated clearly in your OP article you posted.

Did you miss that part?

Here, let me highlight it, again,:

by
Cheyenne Haslett,
Kendall Karson
and
Soo Rin Kim
October 10, 2019, 4:06 AM
9 min read
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
9. You do know that this issue was discussed at the last debate
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:18 PM
Dec 2019

I want to understand Warren's position, It is evil to have private fundraisers during the Democratic primary but okay if these fundraiser are done during the general election or when she is running for Senate?

This interview with Chris Hayes if from a couple of weeks ago and I am still not clear on why the same fundraiser is okay for the general but not for the primary


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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
31. Again, the source of your self stated confusion escapes me.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:49 PM
Dec 2019

Warren has been consistent in saying that she believes the Democratic Primaries, a contest amongst ONLY fellow Democratic candidates, should be as free of big money influence as possible.

You might disagree with this position, you might feel she should not have transferred in funds from previous campaigns against Republicans, but Warren's aspirational position seems reasonable to me.

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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
45. How can the same type of fundraiser be evil during primary but okay later/
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:54 PM
Dec 2019

I have attended private fundraisers for both Clinton last cycle and for Biden this cycle. I also attended events for Clinton during the general election cycle. How are these events different from the primary? I am limited to $2800 during the primary and another $2800 during the general election. Why is my $2800 during the primary treated differently compared to the $2800 contributed during the general election?

I want to win in 2020 and will be supporting the nominee of the party. I simply do not understand why Warren is making this distinction at this point.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
48. Why is a primary campaign different from a GE campaign from the standpoint of fundraising?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:57 PM
Dec 2019

The FEC rules and requirements are essentially the same.

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Cha

(297,318 posts)
59. Because some people
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 08:23 PM
Dec 2019

say it is?

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Cha

(297,318 posts)
54. Yes.. and it's Still being discussed.. too bad if anyone
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:23 PM
Dec 2019

can't handle it. trying to distract with.. but but "October"! lol

Thank you for posting, Goth.. all pertinent information. why, indeed?

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still_one

(92,219 posts)
53. No she hasn't, and that is a good thing as you pointed out Goth. The only stipulation she made was
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 06:18 PM
Dec 2019

that the donors will not be granted any special favors

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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
63. From the Hoarse Whisperer
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 06:05 PM
Dec 2019
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primary today, I would vote for:
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Fiendish Thingy

(15,624 posts)
2. This is not a shift, it has been her position for a long time nt
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:20 PM
Dec 2019
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Undecided
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
5. No Kidding, the op article is 3 months old
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:25 PM
Dec 2019

One wonders the point of posting an article from October.

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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
11. I was confused when she announced this plan and I am still confused
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:19 PM
Dec 2019

Why are the same fundraisers okay in one instance but evil during the primary?

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
19. Were you also confused about the date of your OP aricle?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:32 PM
Dec 2019

The OP article you posted is from back in OCTOBER, it is not a recent shift in Warren's position as the headline might mislead casual readers to conclude.

Perhaps Warren feels the Democratic primary, a contest amongst fellow Democrats, should be free of "big money" influence as possible?

Didn't you just post a December interview with Chris Hayes where she explains her position?

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Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
25. Psst.. this isn't "latest breaking news" it's the "Democratic Primaries"
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:43 PM
Dec 2019

You’re welcome.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
32. But we would not want an old headline to mislead anyone, right?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:51 PM
Dec 2019

I sure hope not.

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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
46. Who is mislead?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:56 PM
Dec 2019

This is not late breaking news and this issue was raised in the last debate where Warren did not explain how her purity test worked.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
50. Casual readers by that THREE MONTH OLD op article headline
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 05:04 PM
Dec 2019

like this one that actually posted in the thread:

BootinUp (37,846 posts)

"Just like I said she would do yesterday. nt"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=391624


Yeah, just like they said she would do yesterday in reply to what was actually your THREE MONTH OLD op article from OCTOBER.

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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
62. Just a couple years ago Warren held a high-dollar fundraiser in a bank vault.
Wed Dec 25, 2019, 11:09 PM
Dec 2019
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BootinUp

(47,165 posts)
3. Just like I said she would do yesterday. nt
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:21 PM
Dec 2019
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
4. Um, this article is from OCTOBER
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:24 PM
Dec 2019

People do realize that this isn't news, right?

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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
8. Here is a December interview with Chris Hayes
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:14 PM
Dec 2019
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
10. So, Warren restated her existing position again in December?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:19 PM
Dec 2019

Ok....

Still curious why the op article was posted since it was from OCTOBER.

But thanks for confirming for us that Warren has been steady in advocating the same position as your OCTOBER article and this DECEMBER article shows..

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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
12. Just answer my question?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:20 PM
Dec 2019

Why are private fundraiser evil during the primary but okay during a senate campaign or the general election?

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
14. Did you relaize you were posting an OP article from back in OCTOBER?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:23 PM
Dec 2019

Just curious.

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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
17. Again, this came up in the debate and you have not answered my question
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:30 PM
Dec 2019

Why are private fundraisers evil during the primary but the exact same fund raisers are okay during one's senate campaign or during the general election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
21. So you DID know the OP article was from back in OCTOBER?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:35 PM
Dec 2019

Ok...



And didn't you just post an interview with Chris Hayes where Warren explained her position? That she feels the Democratic Primary, a contest amongst ONLY fellow Democrats, should be free of big money influence as possible?

You might disagree with her position, but it seems a consistent and reasonable view to me.



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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
42. Lighten up, Francis. I've
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:37 PM
Dec 2019

mistakenly posted old articles, too. It happens.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
44. I don't beieve the op poster has said it was a mistake.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:46 PM
Dec 2019

A recent post by the op author seemed to imply that the article was pertinent to the last debate.

That's fine.

My issue is with the three month old headline being misleading to casual readers.

At least one poster in this thread thought it was a recent shift that they, in their words, predicted "just yesterday".


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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
49. It was not a mistake
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:59 PM
Dec 2019

Warren implied that Mayor Pete's fundraisers were wrong at the last debate but never explained why it was okay for Warren to conduct the exact same type of fundraiser during her Senate run and why it is okay to do the same fundraisers during the general election.

Your attempt at an explanation above makes no sense to me.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
15. The answer is, because she made high dollar fund-raising into an issue when she attacked Buttigieg
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:24 PM
Dec 2019

This story underscores the hypocrisy of that attack.

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blm

(113,065 posts)
13. She has said this all along. Surprised you hadn't heard.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:23 PM
Dec 2019

When she’s president she’ll target Citizens United.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
16. So, it's bad for others, but ok for her because she'll fix it later?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:25 PM
Dec 2019

SMH

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blm

(113,065 posts)
18. No. She wanted to prove in the primary that it could be done.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:32 PM
Dec 2019

I find it odd that some here are targeting her as evil just because she wanted to try campaigning without big ticket fundraisers. Gee. Someone had to start trying this and you all hate her for it.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
20. I can respect her for wanting to do without it; I condemn her for attacking another candidate
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:34 PM
Dec 2019

She tried to tear Buttigieg down for doing something she had done herself, many times.

That's not setting an example; that's a hypocritical attack.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
22. 'Double talk', 'Making it up', 'elitist'
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:39 PM
Dec 2019

all attacks on Warren, by Biden campaign PR - and far more personal than criticism of conduct - closed door fundraisers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
23. I said none of those things
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:41 PM
Dec 2019

Attacking someone for doing what you are well known for is hypocrisy.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
27. You said "I condemn her for attacking another candidate"
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:44 PM
Dec 2019

Nobody has clean hands.

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Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
28. I specifically defined my reason as it being a hypocritical attack
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:46 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
36. 'Medicare for all who want it' - Biden: 'He stole it' 'It's the Biden plan'
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:54 PM
Dec 2019

Buttigieg was talking about it three months before Joe entered the race.

No one has clean hands.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
37. Which has nothing to do with the topic we are posting in. Would you like me to bring up Warren
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:59 PM
Dec 2019

lying on her college application?

If not, stick to the topic.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
39. I thought we were talking about hypocrisy.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:01 PM
Dec 2019

in the campaign, 'He stole it' . he presented it three months before I did.?

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
40. No I was talking about Warren changing her tune on fundraising. I yield the balance of my time.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:04 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
41. I thank my friend, and would add,
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:10 PM
Dec 2019

his candidate's decency and compassion should serve him well in the General Election.

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blm

(113,065 posts)
24. I think she wanted to hit back at Pete and his camp for their 3month long
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:42 PM
Dec 2019

Sniping at her. Biden and Buttigieg camps were attacking her relentlessly for over 3months.

How long did she take it before she swung back?

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
26. So what? If the response is a hypocritical attack, it will backfire like hers did
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:44 PM
Dec 2019
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blm

(113,065 posts)
30. It wasn't hypocritical, but, easily spun that way
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:49 PM
Dec 2019

I admit.

Who wants to applaud her effort to run a primary campaign without big dollar fundraisers if you can use her past campaigns against her where she ran the accepted DNC way?

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
33. She could have made the point that she no longer has such fundraisers; instead, she made comments
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:51 PM
Dec 2019

about chandeliers.

There's setting an example, and there's punching down. This was punching down.

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blm

(113,065 posts)
35. Pete is ahead in Iowa. She punched up. ;)
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:54 PM
Dec 2019

Ya all just don’t like that she punched back after 3months of trying to stay above the fray.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
38. +1000
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:01 PM
Dec 2019

Yeah, what's with Warren being so unladylike and returning criticism from a man?

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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
43. It's not odd. What's odd is her targeting
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:39 PM
Dec 2019

Mayor Pete for an 'infraction' she has every intention of doing herself if the opportunity presents itself.

It is silly season though.

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blm

(113,065 posts)
47. For the general. Besides, it was really odd of her to not hit back at him
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:57 PM
Dec 2019

when he attacked her on Med4All when she could have said, “Why Pete, you were for Med4All not so long ago, yourself, and here you are taking potshots at me for it.”

But, she didn’t. I found that odd, but hitting back at other Dems wasn’t her thing. IMO, she doesn’t do it very well. She’s not practiced at it.

Neither are we..... heh.

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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
51. I insist that
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 05:22 PM
Dec 2019

all fundraisers be bake sales and cake raffles.

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Cha

(297,318 posts)
55. And, like betsuni said.. held in
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:39 PM
Dec 2019

bus stations and.. sorry I forget the 2nd place. lol

Skidmore!

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
56. But if you call them "grassroots fundraisers" it doesn't matter where you hold them
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 08:07 PM
Dec 2019

apparently...

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
57. Why do it differently
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 08:09 PM
Dec 2019

for the GE?

Admitting you need the $$ to win, it appears.

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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
61. Warren embraced the high-dollar fundraising circuit for years
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 12:08 PM
Dec 2019



Chase Williams grinned broadly as he stood for a photo next to Sen. Elizabeth Warren, chatting briefly with the senator from Massachusetts before moving on so someone else could have their turn.

It was the kind of moment that has become a ubiquitous part of Warren’s presidential campaign and its long “selfie lines,” where supporters wait for hours to pose with her at no charge.

But this shot, taken in October 2017, was at an entirely different kind of event: an exclusive “backstage” reception that took place in the vault of a former Cleveland bank. And that was the day’s low-rent affair — donors who agreed to pay more attended an even more exclusive shindig with Warren that day, according to two people familiar with her schedule.

The events were part of a high-dollar fundraising program that Warren had embraced her entire political career, from her first Senate run in 2011 through her reelection last year. Warren was so successful at it that she was able to transfer $10 million of her Senate cash to help launch her presidential bid.
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