Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWarren shifts stance on big money fundraisers in general election
Warren is only avoiding high dollar fundraisers during the primary and will be relying on PAC funds and attending high dollar private fundraisers during the general election is she is the nominee https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/warren-shifts-stance-big-money-fundraisers-general-election/story?id=66168168
I am glad that Senator Warren only intends to continue the plan to use only small dollar donations during the primary and will be attending private fundraisers if she is the nominee. Otherwise, trump will have a significant financial advantage in the general election
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)She will stop rejecting PAC money or avoiding private high-dollar fundraisers.
By
Cheyenne Haslett
,
Kendall Karson
and
Soo Rin Kim
October 10, 2019, 4:06 AM
9 min read
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Gothmog
(145,321 posts)It is a good thing that Warren will not handicap the party or hurt down ballot candidates during the general election. To compete with the RNC and trump, the nominee will have to rely on private fundraisers and PAC or the party would have one hand tie behind its back.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)That's stated clearly in your OP article you posted.
Did you miss that part?
Here, let me highlight it, again,:
Cheyenne Haslett,
Kendall Karson
and
Soo Rin Kim
October 10, 2019, 4:06 AM
9 min read
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Gothmog
(145,321 posts)I want to understand Warren's position, It is evil to have private fundraisers during the Democratic primary but okay if these fundraiser are done during the general election or when she is running for Senate?
This interview with Chris Hayes if from a couple of weeks ago and I am still not clear on why the same fundraiser is okay for the general but not for the primary
Link to tweet
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)Warren has been consistent in saying that she believes the Democratic Primaries, a contest amongst ONLY fellow Democratic candidates, should be as free of big money influence as possible.
You might disagree with this position, you might feel she should not have transferred in funds from previous campaigns against Republicans, but Warren's aspirational position seems reasonable to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)I have attended private fundraisers for both Clinton last cycle and for Biden this cycle. I also attended events for Clinton during the general election cycle. How are these events different from the primary? I am limited to $2800 during the primary and another $2800 during the general election. Why is my $2800 during the primary treated differently compared to the $2800 contributed during the general election?
I want to win in 2020 and will be supporting the nominee of the party. I simply do not understand why Warren is making this distinction at this point.
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George II
(67,782 posts)The FEC rules and requirements are essentially the same.
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Cha
(297,318 posts)say it is?
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Cha
(297,318 posts)can't handle it. trying to distract with.. but but "October"! lol
Thank you for posting, Goth.. all pertinent information. why, indeed?
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still_one
(92,219 posts)that the donors will not be granted any special favors
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Gothmog
(145,321 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bluewater
(5,376 posts)One wonders the point of posting an article from October.
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Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Why are the same fundraisers okay in one instance but evil during the primary?
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)The OP article you posted is from back in OCTOBER, it is not a recent shift in Warren's position as the headline might mislead casual readers to conclude.
Perhaps Warren feels the Democratic primary, a contest amongst fellow Democrats, should be free of "big money" influence as possible?
Didn't you just post a December interview with Chris Hayes where she explains her position?
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Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Youre welcome.
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)I sure hope not.
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Gothmog
(145,321 posts)This is not late breaking news and this issue was raised in the last debate where Warren did not explain how her purity test worked.
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)like this one that actually posted in the thread:
"Just like I said she would do yesterday. nt"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=391624
Yeah, just like they said she would do yesterday in reply to what was actually your THREE MONTH OLD op article from OCTOBER.
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Gothmog
(145,321 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BootinUp
(47,165 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)People do realize that this isn't news, right?
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Gothmog
(145,321 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Ok....
Still curious why the op article was posted since it was from OCTOBER.
But thanks for confirming for us that Warren has been steady in advocating the same position as your OCTOBER article and this DECEMBER article shows..
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Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Why are private fundraiser evil during the primary but okay during a senate campaign or the general election?
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)Just curious.
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Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Why are private fundraisers evil during the primary but the exact same fund raisers are okay during one's senate campaign or during the general election.
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)Ok...
And didn't you just post an interview with Chris Hayes where Warren explained her position? That she feels the Democratic Primary, a contest amongst ONLY fellow Democrats, should be free of big money influence as possible?
You might disagree with her position, but it seems a consistent and reasonable view to me.
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babylonsister
(171,070 posts)mistakenly posted old articles, too. It happens.
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)A recent post by the op author seemed to imply that the article was pertinent to the last debate.
That's fine.
My issue is with the three month old headline being misleading to casual readers.
At least one poster in this thread thought it was a recent shift that they, in their words, predicted "just yesterday".
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Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Warren implied that Mayor Pete's fundraisers were wrong at the last debate but never explained why it was okay for Warren to conduct the exact same type of fundraiser during her Senate run and why it is okay to do the same fundraisers during the general election.
Your attempt at an explanation above makes no sense to me.
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LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)This story underscores the hypocrisy of that attack.
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blm
(113,065 posts)When shes president shell target Citizens United.
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LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)SMH
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blm
(113,065 posts)I find it odd that some here are targeting her as evil just because she wanted to try campaigning without big ticket fundraisers. Gee. Someone had to start trying this and you all hate her for it.
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LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)She tried to tear Buttigieg down for doing something she had done herself, many times.
That's not setting an example; that's a hypocritical attack.
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crazytown
(7,277 posts)all attacks on Warren, by Biden campaign PR - and far more personal than criticism of conduct - closed door fundraisers.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Attacking someone for doing what you are well known for is hypocrisy.
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crazytown
(7,277 posts)Nobody has clean hands.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Buttigieg was talking about it three months before Joe entered the race.
No one has clean hands.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)lying on her college application?
If not, stick to the topic.
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crazytown
(7,277 posts)in the campaign, 'He stole it' . he presented it three months before I did.?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)his candidate's decency and compassion should serve him well in the General Election.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(113,065 posts)Sniping at her. Biden and Buttigieg camps were attacking her relentlessly for over 3months.
How long did she take it before she swung back?
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LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,065 posts)I admit.
Who wants to applaud her effort to run a primary campaign without big dollar fundraisers if you can use her past campaigns against her where she ran the accepted DNC way?
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LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)about chandeliers.
There's setting an example, and there's punching down. This was punching down.
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blm
(113,065 posts)Ya all just dont like that she punched back after 3months of trying to stay above the fray.
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Yeah, what's with Warren being so unladylike and returning criticism from a man?
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babylonsister
(171,070 posts)Mayor Pete for an 'infraction' she has every intention of doing herself if the opportunity presents itself.
It is silly season though.
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blm
(113,065 posts)when he attacked her on Med4All when she could have said, Why Pete, you were for Med4All not so long ago, yourself, and here you are taking potshots at me for it.
But, she didnt. I found that odd, but hitting back at other Dems wasnt her thing. IMO, she doesnt do it very well. Shes not practiced at it.
Neither are we..... heh.
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stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Skidmore
(37,364 posts)all fundraisers be bake sales and cake raffles.
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Docreed2003
(16,863 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,318 posts)bus stations and.. sorry I forget the 2nd place. lol
Skidmore!
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)apparently...
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treestar
(82,383 posts)for the GE?
Admitting you need the $$ to win, it appears.
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Gothmog
(145,321 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Link to tweet
It was the kind of moment that has become a ubiquitous part of Warrens presidential campaign and its long selfie lines, where supporters wait for hours to pose with her at no charge.
But this shot, taken in October 2017, was at an entirely different kind of event: an exclusive backstage reception that took place in the vault of a former Cleveland bank. And that was the days low-rent affair donors who agreed to pay more attended an even more exclusive shindig with Warren that day, according to two people familiar with her schedule.
The events were part of a high-dollar fundraising program that Warren had embraced her entire political career, from her first Senate run in 2011 through her reelection last year. Warren was so successful at it that she was able to transfer $10 million of her Senate cash to help launch her presidential bid.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden