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Fiendish Thingy

(15,624 posts) Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:50 PM Dec 2019

Obama talks up Warren behind closed doors to Wealthy donors

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/475576-obama-talks-up-warren-behind-closed-doors-to-wealthy-donors

But behind the scenes in recent months, former President Obama has gone to bat for Warren (D-Mass.) when speaking to donors reluctant to support her given her knocks on Wall Street and the wealthy.

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But he also has vouched for her credentials, making it clear in these private sessions that he deems her a capable candidate and potential president, sources say.

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"He obviously thinks she’s very smart,” one Democratic donor added. “He thinks her policy ideas matter. And I think he sees her running the campaign with the most depth.”

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At the same time, those around him say he worries that Democrats in financial services “will have an issue with her,” as one ally put it, if she wins the nomination and is trying to “rally the troops” preemptively.

I'm shocked, shocked, to find that Obama would associate himself with such a radical extremist...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Obama talks up Warren behind closed doors to Wealthy donors (Original Post) Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 OP

This will only hurt her booley Dec 2019 #1

Why would it hurt her? Her policies are exactly what Wall Street needs, but, they blm Dec 2019 #3

Later, after he was asked if he would go back into politics... progressoid Dec 2019 #2

Because "Obama said so"? PubliusEnigma Dec 2019 #4

Because Obama picked Joe? crazytown Dec 2019 #5

Joe has been around alot longer than Obama or Warren. PubliusEnigma Dec 2019 #6

Joe is a decent, honest, compassionate man, crazytown Dec 2019 #8

Why do you say this is her pitch? blm Jan 2020 #15

About the author of this piece from the Hill... ehrnst Dec 2019 #7

Obama quietly building a consensus for Warren? Aaron Pereira Dec 2019 #9

This. BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #11

Well the rest of his staff, as well as Castro, are already there Stellar Jan 2020 #16

Much ado about nothing. Gothmog Dec 2019 #10

Mahalo, Goth.. for some CLARITY. Cha Dec 2019 #12

I agree with President Obama that we need to support the nominee of the party Gothmog Dec 2019 #14

I thought President Obama was such a centrist treestar Dec 2019 #13

booley

(3,855 posts)

1. This will only hurt her

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:58 PM

Dec 2019

Not just because tying themselves to Wall Street has never helped Democrats in the long run.

It also undermines her message and makes her look like she was pandering when she said all those policies. That she won't really come through once she is in office. Just how it worked when she appeared to be backing off Medicare for All.

So even if elected, Warren will be perceived as just another politician who says the right things but doesn't really mean it.
Which will help Republicans gain seats in Congress.
Who will block anything she says she wants to do even if she sincerely does want to do it.
And a Republican will replace her. Probably not in 2024 but definitely in 2028.

Thus repeating an all too familiar pattern.

I understand she wants to work within the system in Washington. But that system is why we are in this mess. IF she sincerely wants to do what she says she does, some of the people she will need to fight are in her own party.

I am disappointed. She was my second choice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

blm

(113,065 posts)

3. Why would it hurt her? Her policies are exactly what Wall Street needs, but, they

Reply to booley (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:17 PM

Dec 2019

are too narrow minded and greedy right now to realize it. I’m glad Obama is making them rethink their current allegiance to wrongheaded financial industry policies.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

progressoid

(49,991 posts)

2. Later, after he was asked if he would go back into politics...

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:09 PM

Dec 2019

... he said he believed in making room for new leadership.

“If you look at the world and look at the problems, it’s usually old people, usually old men, not getting out of the way,” he said.

Asked about the comment at the debate, Biden said that Obama wasn’t talking about him.

...aaaaawkard...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)

4. Because "Obama said so"?

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:22 PM

Dec 2019

Is this really her best pitch?

I guess being the candidate of big, new ideas wasn't working out so well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

5. Because Obama picked Joe?

Reply to PubliusEnigma (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:24 PM

Dec 2019

Is this really his best pitch?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)

6. Joe has been around alot longer than Obama or Warren.

Reply to crazytown (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:31 PM

Dec 2019

He can run on experience and accomplishments.
Trump has neither.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

8. Joe is a decent, honest, compassionate man,

Reply to PubliusEnigma (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:35 PM

Dec 2019

everything Trump is not. No argument there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

blm

(113,065 posts)

15. Why do you say this is her pitch?

Reply to PubliusEnigma (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:52 PM

Jan 2020

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She didn’t write this article.

The report is on something Obama said. Why would you spin the simple fact that he made the positive comments into an attack on her?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

7. About the author of this piece from the Hill...

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:35 PM

Dec 2019

Proud Mom & Senior Political Correspondent @TheHill
& Co-author of #1 NYT bestseller 'Shattered' & NYT bestseller

Sure you want to be pushing links to that author?

https://www.conservativebookclub.com/profile/amie-parnes

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Aaron Pereira

(383 posts)

9. Obama quietly building a consensus for Warren?

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:56 PM

Dec 2019

I'd think that was very good news for her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)

11. This.

Reply to Aaron Pereira (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 08:08 PM

Dec 2019

But some apparently can't stand the idea of Obama actually liking Elizabeth.

He has said that he will NOT endorse anyone in the primary. And he will stick to that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Stellar

(5,644 posts)

16. Well the rest of his staff, as well as Castro, are already there

Reply to Aaron Pereira (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:11 PM

Jan 2020

So he must have his choice of who he would like to see as President.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/18/politics/elizabeth-warren-obama-endorsements/index.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Gothmog

(145,313 posts)

10. Much ado about nothing.

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 05:04 PM

Dec 2019

President Obama merely told donors to support Warren if she is the nominee

Link to tweet

And if Warren becomes the nominee, Obama has said they must throw the entirety of their support behind her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,303 posts)

12. Mahalo, Goth.. for some CLARITY.

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 08:12 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Gothmog

(145,313 posts)

14. I agree with President Obama that we need to support the nominee of the party

Reply to Cha (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 08:16 PM

Dec 2019

I will support the nominee of the Party. I do not chare who the nominee is, large donors will be needed during the general election to fight the funding advantage that trump and the RNC will have

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

treestar

(82,383 posts)

13. I thought President Obama was such a centrist

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 08:15 PM

Dec 2019

that you'd think this would be a kiss of death for Warren. (If true)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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