Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumOpinion How 'Centrist Bias' Hurts Sanders and Warren
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Last month, Harris wrote a column that I cant get out of my head. In it, he argued that political journalism suffers from centrist bias. As he explained, This bias is marked by an instinctual suspicion of anything suggesting ideological zealotry, an admiration for difference-splitting, a conviction that politics should be a tidier and more rational process than it usually is.
Centrist bias, as I see it, confuses the idea of centrism (which is very much an ideology) with objectivity and fairness. Its an understandable confusion, because American politics is dominated by the two major parties, one on the left and one on the right. And the overwhelming majority of journalists at so-called mainstream outlets national magazines, newspapers, public radio, the non-Fox television networks really are doing their best to treat both parties fairly.
In doing so, however, they often make an honest mistake: They equate balance with the midpoint between the two parties ideologies. Over the years, many press critics have pointed out one weakness of this approach: false equivalence, the refusal to consider the possibility that one side of an argument is simply (or mostly) right.
But thats not the only problem. Theres also the possibility that both political parties have been wrong about something and that the solution, rather than being roughly halfway between their answers, is different from what either has been proposing.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/22/opinion/warren-sanders-wealth-tax.html
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Joe Biden should be asked whether his solutions are too timid"
The word 'corruption' was MIA on the Biden Campaign page for months. Getting money out of politics encompasses much more than electoral reform. Pete has a section of 'Special Interests' that does not mention 'lobbyists' (there, or elsewhere).
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,597 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
booley
(3,855 posts)We'll work on this down the road? A little. Maybe.
How many Centrists have to lose elections before we ask if maybe it's not going to get people to vote?
Kick the Can is not going to win elections.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,375 posts)But if you are really interested in what Biden wants to get elected on, it's all here:
https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,375 posts)They are exactly what the electorate wants.
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I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)Kick kick a thousand times kicked!!!
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highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)(snip)
This seemingly radical possibility turns out to be quite common, as the historian Arthur Schlesinger Jr. author of the classic book, The Vital Center, no less pointed out. The abolition of slavery, womens suffrage, labor rights, the New Deal, civil rights for black Americans, Reagans laissez-faire revolution and same-sex marriage all started outside the boundaries of what either party favored. The most consequential history, Harris wrote, is usually not driven by the center.
Political and economic journalism too often assumes otherwise and treats the center as inherently sensible. This years Democratic presidential campaign has been a good case study. The skeptical questions posed to the more moderate Democrats are frequently about style or tactics: Are you too old? Too young? Too rich? Too far behind in the polls?
The skeptical questions for the more progressive candidates, Sanders and Warren, often challenge the substance of their ideas: Are you too radical? Are you being realistic? And, by golly, how would you pay for it all?
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Experts who favor a wealth tax, like Gene Sperling, Felicia Wong and Heather Boushey, or whose academic research suggests it would work, like Lily Batchelder and David Kamin, have received less attention than experts who dont like the idea. For that matter, the complaints of obscure billionaires have gotten more attention than the arguments of sympathetic experts. Billionaire whining about a wealth tax, as Ilyana Kuziemko, a Princeton economist whos sympathetic to a wealth tax told me, mostly isnt newsworthy.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/22/opinion/warren-sanders-wealth-tax.html
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
booley
(3,855 posts)They only stand for things the left already won for them
And they oppose anything the left is fighting for now
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msongs
(67,417 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,375 posts)Not David Duke, not Stephen Miller, not Steve Bannon... it's Sanders and Warren!
Are we preparing grounds for accusations of majority bias, just in time for the Democratic Convention?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,417 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden