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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 09:39 AM Dec 2019

****Brand New FL Poll**** Joey B only Dem to beat Corrupt Don in the Sunshine State

Florida is a key swing state that President Donald Trump will likely need to win in order to get
re-elected. Currently, only former Vice President Joe Biden presents serious competition to
Trump in the Sunshine State.
Statewide, Biden holds a narrow lead over Trump, with 47% of Florida voters backing him,
45% supporting the president and 8% undecided.
Trump currently has a clear advantage over his other top potential Democratic challengers.
Statewide, Trump crushes Elizabeth Warren (51%-42%), has a relatively comfortable margin
over Bernie Sanders (49%-44%) and a slimmer lead over Pete Buttigeig (49%-45%).

https://www.politico.com/states/f/?id=0000016f-586c-df23-a57f-5eeea2dc0001

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****Brand New FL Poll**** Joey B only Dem to beat Corrupt Don in the Sunshine State (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2019 OP
Florida has a large amount of Cubans living in the Miami area with harsh feelings for Fidel Castro bearsfootball516 Dec 2019 #1
Cuban Floridians especially the new Iliyah Dec 2019 #4
Fuck Florida. crazytown Dec 2019 #2
If trump loses Florida, he cannot win the electoral college Gothmog Dec 2019 #7
If trump loses Texas, Dems have 270. crazytown Dec 2019 #8
we are working on turning Texas blue Gothmog Dec 2019 #10
Only "9 more state house seats to flip control" crazytown Dec 2019 #11
We have made progress Gothmog Dec 2019 #13
We have a better chance at winning FL than TX redstateblues Dec 2019 #14
TX is a better prize - crazytown Dec 2019 #15
Let's win TX, FL, AZ plus MI, PA and WI... The Valley Below Dec 2019 #21
You conveniently left out 08 and 12...so no we go for Florida and Ohio because Trump loses if Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #18
That would make very little sense. TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author crazytown Dec 2019 #23
I'm not talking about stop fighting for Florida, crazytown Dec 2019 #24
Your kidding? evertonfc Dec 2019 #29
Texas is the corner stone of an enduring Dem majority. crazytown Dec 2019 #33
Many Cubans in Florida left-of-center2012 Dec 2019 #3
but many more puerto ricans resettled to FL than migrated from cuba..... getagrip_already Dec 2019 #27
Poll: Biden has edge over Trump in Florida Gothmog Dec 2019 #5
DemocratSinceBirth, thank you so much for this posting. :) Sloumeau Dec 2019 #6
Since trump "moved" to Florida he has been very active here esp south Florida FloridaBlues Dec 2019 #9
Put more money in Texas. crazytown Dec 2019 #12
Since when does being within the margin of error mean "comfortable margin" Joe941 Dec 2019 #16
If FL ain't important (as you yourself say) LanternWaste Dec 2019 #17
Better to be in the margin of error and up two percent, TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #26
K&R thanks DSB Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #19
We were told that Biden has a lead in Ohio...must be internal. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #20
Joe and Florida for the win. oasis Dec 2019 #25
Experts agree evertonfc Dec 2019 #28
Poll: Biden has edge over Trump in Florida Gothmog Dec 2019 #30
And that's in the midst of our primary. gulliver Dec 2019 #31
K&R Tarheel_Dem Dec 2019 #32
 

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
1. Florida has a large amount of Cubans living in the Miami area with harsh feelings for Fidel Castro
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 09:51 AM
Dec 2019

And they vote heavily. One of the reasons Andrew Gillum lost Florida was because Republicans successfully branded him as a socialist and scared them into staying home or voting for DeSantis.

That's probably why Warren doesn't poll well in Florida against Trump, because she's slandered as a socialist. They do however, have warm feelings for Joe Biden, because of his connections to the Obama Administration, who was popular with them.

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Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. Cuban Floridians especially the new
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:11 AM
Dec 2019

generation tend to favor other than Republican. Fishy totals, again smells. Democrats and Indies must come out in large numbers.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
2. Fuck Florida.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 09:54 AM
Dec 2019

After 2000, 2004, 2016, 2018, time stop throwing so much good money after their badly compromised counts. FL is trumps 'new' home. They can have him if they want him.

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Gothmog

(145,687 posts)
7. If trump loses Florida, he cannot win the electoral college
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:26 AM
Dec 2019
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
8. If trump loses Texas, Dems have 270.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:29 AM
Dec 2019

Let's put money into a real long term investment for a change.

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Gothmog

(145,687 posts)
10. we are working on turning Texas blue
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:47 AM
Dec 2019

We need 9 more state house seats to flip control of the state house. There is a special election on Jan. 28 that Beto is blockwalking on this weekend


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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
11. Only "9 more state house seats to flip control"
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:55 AM
Dec 2019

Wow. I didn't realize TX Dems were that far along. What are you hearing about the special election?

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Gothmog

(145,687 posts)
13. We have made progress
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 11:00 AM
Dec 2019

After the 2010 election, the GOP had 101 seats in the Texas house compared to 49 for the Democrats and had a super majority. We flipped 12 state house seats in 2018 and two congressional seats (Lizzie Fletcher and Colin Allred). The DCCC is targeting 6 congressional seats in Texas and the Texas state party had targeted 19 state house seats.

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redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
14. We have a better chance at winning FL than TX
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 11:30 AM
Dec 2019
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
15. TX is a better prize -
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 11:36 AM
Dec 2019

the one that changes the game from here on out. If Dems can't win MI, PA and WI - I wouldn't be worried too much about FL. FL Dems have had 18+ years to get their house in order since 2000. 2018 was the biggest blue wave since Watergate, but FL was a wipeout.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
21. Let's win TX, FL, AZ plus MI, PA and WI...
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:53 PM
Dec 2019

plus a few more that went red in 2016.

Let's have a complete repudiation of Trumpism.

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Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
18. You conveniently left out 08 and 12...so no we go for Florida and Ohio because Trump loses if
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:39 PM
Dec 2019

he doesn't win those states...we compete in all 50 states and Biden at the top of the ticket...we may very well get the Senate...it is still a long shot but not impossible. I am astounded that some supporters of Warren and Sanders would be willing to lose states we have a chance of winning because the polls don't favor their candidates...a primary is supposed to field a candidate that can win a general period...all this fandom I see here (not saying you) is frankly nauseating.

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TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
22. That would make very little sense.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:56 PM
Dec 2019

What you state would be like marching off a cliff. Stop fighting for Florida would be paramount to throwing in the towel nationally.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
24. I'm not talking about stop fighting for Florida,
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 02:01 PM
Dec 2019

but historically, that State has been showered with DNC money for meager returns. It's time to put more resources into Texas as part of a longer term investment following the CA model.

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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
29. Your kidding?
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:30 PM
Dec 2019

Flirida is very winnable. Much easier than Texas. Warren would get crushed there too

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
33. Texas is the corner stone of an enduring Dem majority.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 04:24 PM
Dec 2019

If Texas can be coaxed along way of CA, it would be fast less important to rely on aging Florida's ballots of broken dreams to secure the Presidency. Warren, the Oakie, may well be the wrong candidate to bring Texas home, after the Voting Right's act. As LBJ said, 'there goes The South for a generation' . The GOP played the long game with their Southern Strategy. It's time to think beyond the next election, to imagine a Texas as Blue as California. It may take a decades, but it is there for the taking. Demographics alone are on our side, as much as they were against us in the past. A blue wall from WA to TX is the GOP's greatest fear, for good reason.

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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
3. Many Cubans in Florida
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:05 AM
Dec 2019

They vote Republican and love Trump's mistreatment of communist Cuba
and rollback of the Obama attempt to normalize relations.

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getagrip_already

(14,901 posts)
27. but many more puerto ricans resettled to FL than migrated from cuba.....
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:07 PM
Dec 2019

They fled the hurricane damage in 2017. They weren't really settled and voting in numbers in 2018, but they still had an impact. They should be fully on board for 2020. They probably don't like trump cutting billions of dollars from medicare funds for pr.

I was just there (PR) a few weeks ago. He isn't popular at all.

The old cubans are not much of a voting block any more, but they do contribute a lot of money and control a lot of press coverage.

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Gothmog

(145,687 posts)
5. Poll: Biden has edge over Trump in Florida
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:25 AM
Dec 2019
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Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
6. DemocratSinceBirth, thank you so much for this posting. :)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:25 AM
Dec 2019


This is good news for Joe Biden.

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FloridaBlues

(4,009 posts)
9. Since trump "moved" to Florida he has been very active here esp south Florida
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:31 AM
Dec 2019

Don't think this state will be easy to win for Biden or anyone else. Hope I'm wrong.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
12. Put more money in Texas.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:59 AM
Dec 2019

There's a real gamechanger. CA was deep Red back in the day. It's time.

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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
16. Since when does being within the margin of error mean "comfortable margin"
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 11:37 AM
Dec 2019

This is click bait.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. If FL ain't important (as you yourself say)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:34 PM
Dec 2019

why your concern over it in every thread about it?

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TexasTowelie

(112,521 posts)
26. Better to be in the margin of error and up two percent,
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:05 PM
Dec 2019

than being outside the margin of error and trailing by five percent.

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Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
20. We were told that Biden has a lead in Ohio...must be internal.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:44 PM
Dec 2019
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oasis

(49,430 posts)
25. Joe and Florida for the win.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 02:56 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
28. Experts agree
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:28 PM
Dec 2019

A close friend and 30 year campaign veteran works in Florida. His job is campaign management. He told me 6 months ago that Biden was the only candidate that would beat Trump there. He said Trump internal polling has Biden up in FL, AZ and GA. Why do you think Trump has been focused on Biden for the last year? Of course, he is just one guy but very, very well connected on ground. We win Florida... game over early.

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Gothmog

(145,687 posts)
30. Poll: Biden has edge over Trump in Florida
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:31 PM
Dec 2019



Joe Biden is the only Democrat who presents “serious competition” to President Donald Trump in Florida, according to a poll released Tuesday.

The Mason-Dixon Polling & Strategy survey of registered Florida voters showed Biden with a narrow 47-45 lead over the president, within the 4 percentage-point margin of error.

Biden was the only candidate from either political party with a positive approval rating in the crucial battleground state. Forty-five percent of respondents had a favorable view of the former vice president; 41 percent had a negative view.

Trump had a 46 percent approval rating. Forty-seven percent of respondents disapproved of the president’s job performance, the poll found.
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gulliver

(13,197 posts)
31. And that's in the midst of our primary.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:47 PM
Dec 2019

In the GE, all of Biden's current primary opponents and their supporters will be backing him.

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