Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumGillibrand becomes first presidential candidate to reveal her 2018 taxes
PoliticoLast year, the New York Democrat reported that she earned about $218,000 bringing in $167,634 from her congressional salary and an additional $50,000 from her book deal. She paid $29,170 in federal taxes. Her husband, Jonathan Gillibrand, who has worked in venture capital, did not report any income in 2018.
I want voters to know that I am beholden to no one, that my values are not for sale and that Im working only for you, Gillibrand said in a short video posted to her YouTube channel. We cant fundamentally change Washington unless we can show the American people we are brave enough to do what needs to be done.
Gillibrands challenge could turn up the heat on other 2020 candidates, as well as distinguish her in the pack of presidential contenders. Gillibrand, who formally launched her campaign earlier this month and delivered a kickoff speech in Manhattan last weekend, is still struggling to break out of the pack, just cracking 1 percent in national and early- state polling.
I wonder who will be last.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But the returns will be described as "boring".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I wouldn't think one way or the other about anyone not doing so at this point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lunamagica
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)and it is still very early in the process.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)but not early for vetting once one declares a candidacy.
Vetting doesn't wait.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)It really won't take more than a day or two for those interested to go through any one candidates tax returns. If I was running I would wait until much, much later to know that I have a clearer path to the nomination. The field is crowded now and for those who are at the lower end of the poling spectrum I certainly wouldn't be in a hurry as why would I want that information out there when it wasn't likely I would get the nod.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)Nor his/her supporters' control.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)The other candidates in this process seem to be able to control at least this part of it for now. Things will happen when they do, there is lots of time for everything to be disclosed and reviewed.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)when they do, the people will become impatient.
Sanders could have said "I will release them in January 2020" ... but he said "soon."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Relative term.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)and the nurse says, "the doctor will see you soon", you wouldn't wait for several months without complaining would you?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)the fact that the term is relative and as much as you try to make it into something definitive with this or any other example it will simply not be so.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)People are well justified in asking what exactly "soon" means. It is a legitimate question for that candidate NOW!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)contact the campaign with which you are having an issue and ask them as I suspect the answer is not going to be found on this discussion board.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Right...he took his compensation in a way that would not be taxed. Sorry for being so skeptical, but I am with people in that business.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)It is possible to go years without income for many ventures, in particular if they are on the cutting edge of technology where a product is not yet developed or not yet accepted by paying customers. He could be a principal who is taking no salary, that happens often in some cases of relatively new venture capital firms. Once they get a hit idea, then the big money starts rolling in, but early years can be thin. I take him at his word because for anyone that know something about that field, it is easy to find out if he is lying. Why would he risk bad exposure?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Warren comes in right behind her. They both have great ideas on transparency.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indykatie
(3,697 posts)Color me not impressed with KG's move. The expectation should be for at least 5 years of tax returns. I'm interested in seeing a candidate's tax returns BEFORE they decided to run for POTUS. Does anyone else question the fact that her husband reported zero income? What's the explanation for that for a guy working in the hedge fund industry? Did he defer all of his income?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Doesn't matter what she does, it won't be good enough for some people.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
athena
(4,187 posts)they could at least appreciate her transparency. Shes not my first choice, but the DU hate for her is way over the top.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
She coerced 8 women to accuse Al Franken. Then she drugged and/or blackmailed over 30 other Senators to call for his resignation. And finally went to Frankens office with a resignation letter and a gun and told Franken either his signature or his brains would be on the letter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The full current year's tax return can provide a large amount of detail about past year, in particular the one before because two of the entries are last year's income and taxes paid or refunded.
But in principle, I accept your argument overall, 8-15 years of tax returns tell a lot, in particular whether there was a year or two of massive income.
I think what she is trying to do with her tax return ploy is out those that have released little or nothing at all in a bad spot. I like her move for that reason.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Its nothing new for her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I guess that answers the question that someone asked about why just one year. But since her other years tax returns are already public records, no need to release them again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)She also releases other personal financial documents.
https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/tax-returns
Transparency has been one of her top issues and starts with herself.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)"first to release 2018" returns.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I have seen you type "mahalo" a lot -- may I ask if you're Hawai'ian?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,581 posts)No, just living on one of their Islands.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,581 posts)Except for the majority of gaslighting fascists who run the state.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I have a question. Why do some people not call themselves Hawiian? I think I remember seeing a show once that said some islands have a strong local identity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,581 posts)because I don't have Hawaiian blood.
Is that what you meant?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I think it was an Anthony Bourdain episode several months before he died. The group that he talked and went around with were real homers, for lack of a different term.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Sorry Cha, I just had to get that dig in.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sorry, not getting it. You posted this to BlueFlorida but I see you meant to reply to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The term "does the sun burn" was short for isn't that obvious. I guess I was wrong and owe my Florida homie an apology.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,581 posts)Irish!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)It's all for nothing, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)She updates her record annually. For the senate as well. This isn't anything new for her. It's a standard most seem to want. One she is upholding.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)TRANSPARENCY IS HARDLY FOR NOTHING.
Not one candidate should be hiding their tax returns. Period.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,581 posts)but they aren't 2018's yet!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,523 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden