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MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 03:30 PM Jan 2020

How were the rules for delegate allocations and the 15% cutoff created?

They were created, like all Democratic Party rules, at the national convention, and voted on by delegates sent there from every state by their state's Democratic Party organization. We Democrats who participate in party organizations in our own districts, counties, and other divisions participate in rules making votes at our district and state conventions.

So, if you've ever wondered about why it's a good idea to get involved in your local Democratic Party group, that's why. The Democratic Party is an organization that starts from the grassroots, with majority rule voting in effect for every decision and rule. Whatever state you are in, your state's rules have been created by Democrats in your state and approved by the national party organization.

That's why delegate selection is done in a way that equalizes the number of men and women who become delegates. That is why minority groups are always represented proportionally in delegate selection, party officer elections and more. That's also why you should seriously consider becoming part of that organization.

In most places, a tiny minority of Democrats participates in their local Democratic Party organization. If you participate, you will have a larger voice than you can have in any other way. If you're willing to work, you'll soon be on a committee, a board, or become a local party officer, after being elected at a district convention to such a position. You'll also be able to put your name forward as a delegate to local, district, and state conventions. All it takes is a willingness to work and the ability to get along with other Democrats. The competition isn't as tough as you might think, because so few people are willing to work on behalf of the party without compensation.

Want to make a difference? Just get involved. You can make a difference. If you care and if you're willing to put out some effort, you'll almost sure to succeed in becoming part of your local organization's leadership. It will take time, but the rewards are worth it. You can become part of how things are done and how rules are made. You can become one of the people who endorse candidates, as well, at conventions at all levels.

However, if you're not willing to participate actively, I suggest you skip all of that. Participation is absolutely required.

At age 74, I'm stepping back from this, but I've been involved all my adult life. I highly recommend becoming an active Democrat who plays a real role in what the Party stands for and does.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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How were the rules for delegate allocations and the 15% cutoff created? (Original Post) MineralMan Jan 2020 OP
The 1st steps were the McGovern Rules at a meeting in 1970---reaction to 68 bobbieinok Jan 2020 #1
Yes, a lot changed due to the 1968 convention. MineralMan Jan 2020 #2
I ran for and was selected as a national delegate in 2016 Gothmog Jan 2020 #3
I've been a state convention delegate in Minnesota. MineralMan Jan 2020 #4
In my part of Texas it is not too hard to get to the state convention Gothmog Jan 2020 #5
Yes. The cost of being a delegate has to be considered. MineralMan Jan 2020 #6
It is really expensive to be a delegate to the national convention Gothmog Jan 2020 #7
I can imagine. MineralMan Jan 2020 #8
 

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
1. The 1st steps were the McGovern Rules at a meeting in 1970---reaction to 68
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jan 2020

Young people were furious about how nominee and delegates were chosen in 68

In Ames IA we heard that caucus locations were not publicized, were often in small living rooms.

I heard tales of young people having to almost crawl in windows to get in and take part

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
2. Yes, a lot changed due to the 1968 convention.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 03:57 PM
Jan 2020

What a debacle that was! The last gasp of doing things the old traditional way.

I was still in the USAF then, so I wasn't an active participant in party activities. In fact, at the time of the convention, I had just returned to the states from the base I was at in Turkey. Watching that convention and what was going on around it was very, very painful. My enlistment ended in 1969, and I resumed being active in the party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,650 posts)
3. I ran for and was selected as a national delegate in 2016
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:27 AM
Jan 2020

I got to know the process. I was also on the committee that vetted Clinton delegates and I know that I was vetted. To get selected as a national delegate, one has to work within the party for a while. I have been volunteering on voter protection efforts for a long while and had spoken to a number of gathering of the county party chairs in my senate district.

I would urge people to get involved with their local party. It is a good way to help our country

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
4. I've been a state convention delegate in Minnesota.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:28 AM
Jan 2020

It's a process - getting to be a delegate to state and national conventions. There aren't any shortcuts, really. You have to be elected in both cases, so establishing yourself as a hard-working member of the organization means that you've met a lot of people who recognize your dedication and who might vote for you to become a delegate.

I never tried to become a delegate to the national convention. I hadn't been around long enough to develop the connections that would have taken. In my local State Senate District, I had done enough to be electable as a state convention delegate, though.

Oddly enough, being an older white male does not come with any privilege in seeking a delegate spot. Not at all. Not in Minnesota, at least.

Both state and national conventions normally run more than one day, so there are costs involved with becoming a delegate, as well, which might include travel, lodging, and meal expenses.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,650 posts)
5. In my part of Texas it is not too hard to get to the state convention
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:53 AM
Jan 2020

Their are usually enough slots open. I have been to several state conventions. These events are three day affairs and can be expensive to attend

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
6. Yes. The cost of being a delegate has to be considered.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:57 AM
Jan 2020

In Minnesota, state conventions are almost always held away from the Twin Cities. Duluth and Rochester are two of the typical places. Both are a two-hour drive from where I live. I decided to drive each of the two days to the convention, leaving early in the morning and getting home late in the evening. Hotel and meal costs weren't in my budget.

The state party does sometimes subsidize national convention costs for some delegates who couldn't otherwise attend the convention. That has allowed some people to become delegates who couldn't otherwise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,650 posts)
7. It is really expensive to be a delegate to the national convention
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:01 AM
Jan 2020

You need to stay in the hotel assigned to the delegation because that is where you pick up your credentials each morning. I had one friend stay at a cheaper hotel and uber in each morning. It was still not cheap.

The 2020 convention will be a mess. The Texas and California delegations are going to be at hotels near O'Hair airport and will have a 2.5 hour bus ride each way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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