Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumPhilippe Reines Argues Joe Biden's Campaign Has Funding Issues: 'His Biggest Problem is Money'
By Connor Mannion Jan 1st, 2020, 11:43 am
Former Hillary Clinton adviser Philippe Reines told MSNBC that though Joe Bidens poll numbers remain strong in a number of areas, he sees the campaign having issues in terms of money.
Reines was appearing on an edition of MSNBC Live New Years Day on Wednesday, anchored by Geoff Bennett. He argued it wouldnt be wise of Pete Buttigieg to attack Biden too harshly, and argued Sen. Bernie Sanders was benefiting from not jumping into intra-candidate fights.
Bidens numbers have been rock solid especially among black Americans, Reines said. And his biggest problem is money and the biggest thing thats happened in 2020 is Buttigieg has announced his fourth quarter totals, which was an eye-popping $25 million. The biggest difference between him and Biden is that Biden wont have that kind of number and well see if his poll numbers and his money numbers are a huge gap.
Just so I dont get attacked on Twitter, Bernies numbers have just been off the charts, Reines continued. He has been raising $26-27 million for every quarter and got to figure that he will have a big quarter too. Might not find out for a couple weeks, but money is a big deal.
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Biden's support is wide, but low fundraising means his support is not as deep as Bernie's Five Million Donations!
(Now, let the desperate and weak jokes begin!)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
msongs
(67,441 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Irony is dead.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)Just shows that money can't buy Bernie love or the nomination.
Note: It is 5 million donations, not 5 million donors.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)And Joe still needs cash.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)He appears to be getting his message across despite not having as much money as the other candidates or declaring that he is a victim of a media blackout. I'm not aware of him sending out emails asking for $2.70 either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,337 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)GF Yourself!
Fucking troll!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,034 posts)People know who he is, and they like and trust him.
His rivals, OTOH, can't overtake Biden's lead no matter how much they spend, or how much they boast about fundraising.
Says a lot about how much weaker they are as candidates, doesn't it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...bucks?
Or even your support for Joe?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Where are the "desperate and weak jokes"?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)(let the goal-post moving and backtracking begin...)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)If Biden himself claimed the same, it would be just another in a pattern of rookie mistakes.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,034 posts)your guy has trailed for the past year?
LOL.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...rookie mistakes made already last year. Do you need a list? Cause here in the biggest rookie mistake any Dem POTUS candidate could ever make:
1. "Then vote for Trump."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)I need strong conviction for a candidate.
Like I see everyday, from Bernie and all his supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Otherwise, your sentiment lacks any objective data to support it. But we get it... editorial license allows our wishes to be stated as fact. Very clear, indeed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Languishing in second place, third in others. As the big dog used to say I feel your pain
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)No money issues for Joe Biden... the front runner
Former Vice President Joe Biden, meanwhile, has rebounded from a weak third quarter, in which he raised only $15.7 million. The Biden Campaign in the final 48 hours of the year to post our biggest fundraising quarter yet, as Biden wrote in an email Sunday, by topping the $21.5 million he raised last spring.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/elections/ct-nw-democrats-fundraising-2020-election-20191231-sgzrerxz4jcx3e62qhmc4ecp2e-story.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)I can relate to Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...insider".
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,394 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)Yep, seen here on a regular basis. Sheer desperation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,394 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,394 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)1, Being a loyal Democrat, even between presidential elections.
2. Not attacking Democrats, or the Democratic Party.
3. The ability to work with other Democrats to get legislation passed.
4. Not suggesting that the incumbent Democratic president face a primary contest.
5. The candidate's voting history.
6. Not giving Russia a pass every time something in relation to that country comes under consideration in Congress.
I could continue, but I think you get the point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,898 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)BTW, "Now, let the desperate and weak jokes begin!" ???? You attack Biden and say that? Unbelievable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Or, you just do not support Biden enough for you to say?
If you don't support him, why should I support Biden?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....began, clearly he doesn't have "funding issues".
Your questions, based on the discussion at hand, are irrelevant.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)I just don't get it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #12)
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JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Can you give me even one reason why someone would not declare their support if the already declare their support publicly? Other than to say it is not full support?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)...and you're a smart guy so figure it out for yourself.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Why be coy about supporting your favorite Dem now?
We need to be loud and proud!
Now and until Nov. That is the only way to change votes and GOTV for all our DEMS!!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)And considering the attacks that I've received in this forum, I may not announce who I choose to vote for even after Super Tuesday. The preferred choice shown in this forum has been a farce since the beginning with some members switching from one candidate to another on a frequent basis and posting attack OPs using those ruses.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)Of the 4th quarter. With that announcement I would imagine that he will easily have 20+ mil for the last quarter
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Just asking?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)And who cares if I was? I'm just another Dem poster you know.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...writing? Not talking?
I really do not understand. Can you please be more specific so I don't hurt anyone in the future here with my comments/questions?
Cause we need every vote for Bernie as we can get in November!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)Don't worry, I'm sure that President Biden will say a good word for him and maybe come to a rally or two in Vermont.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...reelected POTUS!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)and it doesn't look like that is happening.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)(little laughy, bouncy emoji guy, times two for twice a better effect)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)I'm not denying that money won't help in a run against Trump, but the polling suggests that Biden can beat Trump and win the Electoral College. None of the other Democratic candidates have shown that strength, including Bernie despite all the money he has raised.
A lot of people aren't going to make donations during the primary contests because they may feel it is unwise because their preferred candidate is not an absolute lock. Those people may decide to wait to see if Biden locks up the nomination before they contribute (the same applies to other candidates also). However, once the race becomes the Democratic nominee vs. Trump then the wallets and pocketbooks will open, checks will be written, and people will enter the three digit CVV code from their credit cards on campaign Websites.
It is foolish to believe that contributions made during the primary season are going to reflect contributions made for the purpose of the general election.
Oh, and here are some emojis for you. They're free so I'm happy to give them to you and have another drink on me!
That last emoji reminds me, I need to make a quick trip to the refrigerator.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Hurt.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)when you can have emojis!
Speaking of which, if I was at a biergarten the two candidates this cycle that I would have been most happy to see and enjoy their company are Joe and Beto. I would have walked away or turned my back if Bernie appeared.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...words, or emojis.
I guess, I'll jut have to settle for this Indica vape as many times as your beer emoji.
Huh, yum, uh?....Feeling a bit better already.
Is there a emoji guy somewhere for this bliss?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)whether for weed or catnip:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10181063004
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)(Insert distinction lacking relevant difference below to better justify holding others to a higher standard than yourself. Again.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)the more that the evil mean corporations get to keep a portion of those donations for themselves?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...you can only afford a little at a time?
Jeeze! Are you saying because I don't have big bucks I'm supporting evil corporations over any Dem candidate?
Wow. That does hurt.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)then perhaps you should save and make one large donation instead. That's what I did when I donated to Beto.
I feel sorry for those poor college students who can't afford tuition who were hood-winked that if they didn't donate immediately then Bernie's campaign would collapse. Bernie transferred millions of dollars from his Senate campaign fund to his presidential campaign fund. Why would he deceive those students if he didn't need the money immediately? Was it because he could brag about how many donations he received? The poor students could have had another pint of beer for that $2.70.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Or should I just be as Trent might sing, "Hurt"?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)It wasn't much, but I had absolutely no financial leeway in the first two quarters of 2019. If Beto remained in the race, then I would have made a larger donation in the fourth quarter since my finances have improved recently.
I didn't make any donations in the fourth quarter though since I am undecided as to which candidate I'm going to support. And while I'm undecided, I have made some decisions as to which candidates I am not going to support.
The thing is that if I do donate to another candidate, then I will be considered as a "new" supporter and I can contribute to the maximum of $2,800 for that candidate. I doubt that I will ever get close to giving anyone that amount, but at least I don't have to tally (get the username reference ) my debit card transactions for every $2.70 contribution to determine whether I've stayed within the FEC limits.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,479 posts)Sanders' total donation numbers are inflated because his campaign specifically tells people to make multiple donations of small amounts rather than lump sums. Artificially manipulated numbers are meaningless.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)It would be in your benefit,(you are not getting this one), to not attack.
Keep in mind that we are tired of trump and tweets.
Please win on your positives!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)Said it myself many times... positively post for your fav candidate.. skip the negatives
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)I do try not to be negative.
It is hard.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)New month .... yes time for another donation!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,394 posts)months the usual suspects have been saying his lead wouldn't last
Why would i give credence to those whose analysis has been notoriously wrong?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...much so, you can look me up on the internets.
And yes, I support Bernie 100%.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)money, at this point in this Democratic primary, is a big issue. Joe was VP for 8 years. We kinda know him. Maybe for GOTV but he will be just fine.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Like Trump Bernie cant grow his support. His has actually lost ground since his run against Hillary. Stick a fork in him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)Well done!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided