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brooklynite

(94,751 posts)
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:34 AM Jan 2020

Iran situation casts Buttigieg's candidacy in a different light

Politico

Buttigieg’s personal story as a gay veteran and Midwestern mayor, his performances in debates and interviews, and his policy platform have all propelled him into a small group of Democratic primary frontrunners in Iowa and New Hampshire, as voters in those states prepare to pick a nominee against President Donald Trump. But the American strike that killed Qassem Soleimani, a top Iranian general, rippled through the former mayor’s events in the first primary state this weekend, where he sought to reassure voters that he has the experience to handle U.S. foreign policy and the military.

Buttigieg wove his stint as a Navy intelligence officer and criticism of Trump’s “chest-thumping militarism" into his stump speech and returned to his tenure “in the dust of” Afghanistan answering questions at town halls across New Hampshire, as the presidential primary takes a foreign policy turn.
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His military experience has been a long-running campaign theme — nearly all of Buttigieg’s TV ads flash a picture of him in fatigues — but the subject also throws one potential weakness into sharp relief: the brevity of his national security experience, and his generally short resume compared to others in the 2020 presidential field.

“He’s the candidate with the military background who served” abroad, said Kathy Sullivan, a member of the Democratic National Committee from New Hampshire, who likened it to a “double-edged sword” for Buttigieg. “But at the same time, he’s the youngest candidate in the field without a ton of other foreign policy experience,” and a conflict with Iran “could shake up how voters are viewing this primary.”

Buttigieg, for his part, argued to reporters Saturday afternoon that “somebody who has been on the ground as an intelligence officer, understanding what’s at stake in these issues, is bringing the exact kind of bearing we’re going to need,” adding that managing future conflicts around the world requires “a forward-looking view” from the next president.
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Iran situation casts Buttigieg's candidacy in a different light (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2020 OP
war is good for pete? ok Kurt V. Jan 2020 #1
So of like, the health care crisis is good for Warren? brooklynite Jan 2020 #2
Apples and oranges. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #7
Resumes don't matter anymore. What matters is name recognition and charisma. nt Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 #3
Booker actually has a far better resume. dalton99a Jan 2020 #5
If you go by length of deployment, Tulsi Gabbard had a longer deployment dalton99a Jan 2020 #4
His military experience has been a long-running campaign theme ... bluewater Jan 2020 #6
+1. He had a desk job when he wasn't chauffeuring people around dalton99a Jan 2020 #9
No it doesn't ...too young and too inexperienced. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #8
Not with Veterns judeling Jan 2020 #10
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
1. war is good for pete? ok
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:47 AM
Jan 2020
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brooklynite

(94,751 posts)
2. So of like, the health care crisis is good for Warren?
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:35 AM
Jan 2020
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Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
3. Resumes don't matter anymore. What matters is name recognition and charisma. nt
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:58 AM
Jan 2020
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dalton99a

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5. Booker actually has a far better resume.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jan 2020
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dalton99a

(81,630 posts)
4. If you go by length of deployment, Tulsi Gabbard had a longer deployment
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jan 2020

so technically she is better qualified to be commander-in-chief

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
6. His military experience has been a long-running campaign theme ...
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:33 PM
Jan 2020

Buttigieg took a sabbatical from his job as mayor of South Bend for a 7 month Navy reservist deployment to Afghanistan.

Mayor Pete was in an "imminent danger pay" zone, that zone included all of Afghanistan.

He did not however receive the Navy's Combat Action Ribbon.

The Combat Action Ribbon (colloquially "CAR&quot , is a United States Navy, United States Marine Corps, and United States Coast Guard military decoration awarded to those U.S. sea service members "who have actively participated in ground or surface combat."

I don't know... Pete deserves credit for his service, but I can't help but feel he might be over-selling his 7 month deployment.

Wasn't Tulsi Gabbard also deployed to an imminent danger zone and for a longer period of time?

Here is the list of all the imminent danger pay zones:

Countries in Designated Combat Zones
Afghanistan
Albania
Bahrain
Djibouti
Iraq
Jordan
Kosovo
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Lebanon
Oman
Pakistan
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Serbia/Montenegro
Somalia
Syria
Tajikistan
United Arab Emirates
Uzbekistan
Yemen

Bodies of Water Considered Military Combat Zones
The Persian Gulf
The Red Sea
The Gulf of Oman
The part of the Arabian Sea that is north of 10 degrees north latitude and west of 68 degrees east longitude
The Gulf of Aden
The Adriatic Sea
The Ionian Sea north of the 39th parallel
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dalton99a

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9. +1. He had a desk job when he wasn't chauffeuring people around
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 01:04 PM
Jan 2020

But hey, there is a photo of him holding a rifle


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Demsrule86

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8. No it doesn't ...too young and too inexperienced.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:36 PM
Jan 2020

I would not vote for Buttigieg in a primary...and he won't make the general IMHO. Vote blue no matter who...

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judeling

(1,086 posts)
10. Not with Veterns
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jan 2020

What that was, was not much and I only went to work in a Green Suit stateside.

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