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It's nearly 17 years since the war in Iraq started (Original Post) melman Jan 2020 OP
Makes me want to cry/ yellowwoodII Jan 2020 #1
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #2
AMEN Ohiogal Jan 2020 #3
Exactly Sonny Mirviss Jan 2020 #4
How can that be? SCantiGOP Jan 2020 #5
Well he was right to the extent of overthrowing the Saddam government. former9thward Jan 2020 #10
Makes me weep. Nanjeanne Jan 2020 #6
For oil. roody Jan 2020 #7
The U.S. is an oil exporter. former9thward Jan 2020 #8
Correct, we produce more oil than we use. George II Jan 2020 #9
The country with the largest oil reserves is Canada NYMinute Jan 2020 #12
Yes, our history of military force in Iraq stretches back even longer... ehrnst Jan 2020 #11
For some Iraq came into existence just 4 years ago NYMinute Jan 2020 #13
 

Uncle Joe

(58,426 posts)
2. Kicked and recommended.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 06:31 PM
Jan 2020

Thanks for the thread melman.

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Sonny Mirviss

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4. Exactly
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 06:36 PM
Jan 2020

I don't care why or how we get the fuck out.

I would even give Trump credit if that's what it takes.

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SCantiGOP

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5. How can that be?
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jan 2020

Acting President Dick Cheney said that the Iraq hostilities would be, and I quote, “a matter of months, not years.”
It turned out not to be a matter of years, but a matter of decades.

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former9thward

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10. Well he was right to the extent of overthrowing the Saddam government.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:10 PM
Jan 2020

That was rather quick. But then we decided to nation build and turn Iraq into the U.S. Iraq does not want to be the U.S. So we remain with no president, so far, willing to take the blame of "losing" Iraq. The same applies to Afghanistan.

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former9thward

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8. The U.S. is an oil exporter.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:01 PM
Jan 2020

It has no need of Iraqi oil. The Iraqi government takes all oil revenue. So whatever the reason is oil is not it.

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George II

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9. Correct, we produce more oil than we use.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:08 PM
Jan 2020
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NYMinute

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12. The country with the largest oil reserves is Canada
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 10:32 AM
Jan 2020

Canda has more oil than all of middle-east combined.

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ehrnst

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11. Yes, our history of military force in Iraq stretches back even longer...
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 10:28 AM
Jan 2020

In 1998 Sanders voted in favor of the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, which said: ''It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime.''

Later that same year, Sanders also backed a resolution that stated: ''Congress reaffirms that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime''


Sanders also voted for the 2001 Authorization Unilateral Military Force Against Terrorists (AUMF), which pretty much allowed Bush to wage war wherever he wanted.


Authorization for Use of Military Force - Authorizes the President to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons.
States that this Act is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of the War Powers Resolution.

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NYMinute

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13. For some Iraq came into existence just 4 years ago
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 10:34 AM
Jan 2020

when it was politically expedient.

Now they think they can bludgeon Biden with the Iraq war as though he was the only one solely responsible for it.

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