Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumOkay AOC said she would be in a different party in another country
from Joe Biden. sigh. Well its okay. AOC's candidate choices and endorsements did not make the 2018 blue wave. So she actually is helping VP Biden. I have nothing particularly against AOC, other than she is a my way or the highway candidate. It works for her district (as long as it lasts?)... But that type of my way only attitude does not work on a national level..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)could not win nationally. I think Joe could.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)and when the squad were elected and touted so much by the media before they even got a chance to get the lay of the land.. the right targeted them. She should take a cue from HRC and established herself..This one is just a stupid thing to say. All it does is give a lot of ammunition to the right. It does not hurt Biden in the least. She needs to learn which battles are worth the fight
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)I mean what was the point?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,778 posts)Think Sherice Davids
Her comments about madam speaker
Refusing to give HRC credit for CHIP
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)from someone who has been reading too much of her own press..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,792 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,075 posts)two party system. If you want to win an election you generally have to run on one of the two major party tickets.
In other countries that dont use plurality elections ideological differences are sorted into separate parties.
I know its complicated , but if a former waitress can figure this out...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)The Republicans are going to come after her hammer and tongs for being a communist. Well guess what, that would have happened anyway, but saying she would not be part of the national party of a leader of the party vetted by the most believed and beloved President of my lifetime.. if it were in different country, so close to an election just sets her up as the other! It was stupid.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)U. S. House of Representatives Tip O'Neill said: "all politics is local".
And shes been more of a national entity.
On election day, it's all about "What have you done for me?"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)keeps doing this sh*t.. Democrats are going to start doing a universal WHOA with this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,792 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)There are two declared primary opponents already, with one other who hasn't formally declared:
Badrun Khan - declared
Fernando Cabrera - declared
Jose Velazquez - considering
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)When one's constituency is feeling abandoned or neglected, that can certainly be a powerful motivator to give the incumbent the boot and choose someone else. Let's hope for clean primaries that are clearly organized and scheduled.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,359 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Primary season is ratcheting up
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,746 posts)in which multiple parties can field candidates and then form coalitions with other parties to support particular initiatives where they agree. It doesn't work that way here. If Democrats want to win elections they need to maintain their big tent, and AOC doesn't get to decide who belongs in the tent and who doesn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I dig AOC, however she's young and lacks an essential experience in party unity. Though I get that criticizing the Democratic party is hip and trendy among the self-described 'revolutionaries' (putting that term on a t-shirt though, does not a revolutionary make), there are negative, long-term consequences to doing so.
I don't want her to sabotage a bright future this soon into her career, and I sincerely hope she realizes sooner rather than later that Democratic statesmen are not her enemies but in fact, her own allies.
In other words, they have her back, it's time she has theirs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Some need to learn the difference between an imperfect friend and a mortal enemy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)If he takes it to the GE - she's established with this statement that she's against him. That will increase his appeal to moderate independents.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,315 posts)Has gone completely to her head. She is wielding power that she does not have.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,544 posts)Pseudo intellectuals, pseudo revolutions, pseudo ideology.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,340 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I'm thrilled that the Democratic Party is so broadly representative of the needs and aspirations of Americans.
Ocasio's not. Her statement that the Democrats' appeal is too broad, we're too diverse and too inclusive shocked me. It indicates a vast intolerance and contempt leading to rejection of the views of many millions of "not my kind" of Americans. She wants the vast majority of liberal and progressive Democrats (Like Biden and Obama! And me!) gone from her party. Go away! to the vast moderate-liberal majority who've created every progressive advance our nation has ever known. Leaving her kind.
However, it certainly explains how she could continue to support Sanders during and after he promised to illicitly overset the popular vote of all us undesirables in the last primary.
I'd already researched very early on and decided Sanders wasn't the right stuff for president, but about the time he started deceiving his followers about, ultimately, dozens of state party races being rigged against him, and promising to overset democracy itself, I knew he was the wrong stuff for me for any position.
And then of course he actually really did try to illicitly undo the collective decision, and with it the very right to decide of not just the 28 million Democrats who voted in the primary, but of all Democrats, who rightly believe it is their decision.
He's running again, and Ocasio's still with him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....from the Justice Democrats website, at a time she was on their Board:
https://www.justicedemocrats.com/about
The two-party paradigm is the model for our countrys current political system. While we agree with efforts to reform our two-party system, the reality is that right now it is next to impossible for a third-party candidate to win a national election. Justice Democrats functions like a party within the Democratic Party -- running our own candidates in primary elections and holding those on top accountable to the grassroots.
We want our democracy to work for Americans again as soon as possible. The best way to do this is by working to change the Democratic Party from the inside out. Once Justice Democrats take power, we support electoral reform like ranked choice voting and mixed-member districts so third parties can have a voice in our democracy rather than continue to play a spoiler effect.
It should also be noted that when she filed her Statement of Candidacy with the FEC in 2017 she didn't use an address in the 14th District, OR an address even in New York State. She filed using the address of the office of Justice Democrats in Knoxville, Tennessee:
714 South Gay Street
Knoxville, TN 37902
https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/H8NY15148/1172479/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,423 posts)Hypotheticals may be of limited value.
The Democratic Party being a big tent is nothing new. For instance, in 1972 it was the party of George McGovern and the party of George Wallace.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)George Wallace helped put me off populism for good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden