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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:53 PM Jan 2020

Media Leave Yang Out of Candidate Conversations

It really is amazing that Yang has managed to keep building momentum despite this obvious problem.

The Democratic primary field may be narrowing, but Andrew Yang still can’t get the media’s attention. According to the New York Times (12/19/19), which breaks down the debates by speaking minutes, Yang, polling at fifth of the seven participating candidates, with an average of 3.5%, came in last in the December debate at 10 minutes, 56 seconds; that’s nearly a minute less than Tom Steyer (polling at 1.5%), and far below centrism poster child Amy Klobuchar, who is neck-and-neck with Yang in polls but clocked a whopping 19 minutes and 53 seconds.

It’s part of a pattern for Yang. In the November debate, he also came in dead last on speaking minutes, at 6:48, despite polling higher than fellow debaters Klobuchar, Steyer, Tulsi Gabbard and Cory Booker. He also had the fewest minutes in the September and June debates. Business Insider (11/23/19) found that Yang has consistently received less speaking time at the debates than one would expect, given his polling numbers.

By FAIR’s count, he’s been given 37 prompts across the six debates; Klobuchar—who has consistently polled below Yang for months, though her numbers have risen slightly to match his in recent weeks—has gotten 54. Booker and Beto O’Rourke, who didn’t even appear in all six debates and have polled at or below Yang’s levels since September, received 43 and 36, respectively.

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Cillizza’s arguments seem to depict journalists as quite an intellectually challenged crew. In reality, it’s not that they can’t work to get a sense of a new candidate, or to cover “radical” political ideas; it’s that the news organizations they work for give them no incentive to—no conspiracy necessary, just an unhealthy bias toward the political establishment. Witness: A search of all CNN transcripts after Cillizza’s September 4 mea culpa found not a single instance of Cillizza mentioning Yang’s name on the air.

Echoing Cillizza’s third point, New York magazine’s Ed Kilgore (9/3/19) suggested journalists may be ignoring Yang because he has “no plausible path to the Democratic nomination,” given that his support mainly lies among millennials and Asian-Americans, and that if he had a breakout debate performance “his media coverage will skyrocket.” How Yang might be expected to have a breakout debate when the moderators keep him on the sidelines isn’t clear.

But the idea of a candidate having “no plausible path” to victory is a self-fulfilling prophecy: Journalists decide a candidate can’t win, so they don’t give the candidate coverage, which means the candidate can’t reach voters, influence the political discussion and rise in the polls. The whole point of the primaries is to let voters get to know the candidates and decide for themselves who is electable—the last thing people need is journalists narrowing the field for them.
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https://fair.org/home/media-leave-yang-out-of-candidate-conversations/
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mopinko

(70,135 posts)
1. my #1 example of why this wide field is a great thing.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:58 PM
Jan 2020

he's really shining a light on so much that is f'd up, and doing a good job of applying common sense to the solutions.
i am really glad he is in this. i feel like he is gonna be like dean- doesnt get the nod, but builds a platform that will last.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
4. His common sense is so refreshing, and one reason why I think he's so electable.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 02:13 PM
Jan 2020
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marybourg

(12,633 posts)
2. I heard him discussed this morning
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 01:04 PM
Jan 2020

on NPR’s Brian Lehrer show.

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redqueen

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3. Surprising. NPR's senior political editor is in the 'its ok to ignore him because no path' camp. nt
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 01:12 PM
Jan 2020
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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
5. Wow. That is terrible but m$m is just awful and getting worse each election cycle.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jan 2020
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TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
6. He is averaging under four percent in the polls....
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:13 PM
Jan 2020

And doesn’t bring anything to the table for their ratings.

The media is a known quantity.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
7. This is coming from Fair.org
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:54 AM
Jan 2020

That used to be considered one of the most respectable authorities when it comes to fairness in media.

Times sure have changed on DU.

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TidalWave46

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8. I don't understand your replies connection to my post.
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:56 AM
Jan 2020

Are people somewhere on DU going after fair.org?

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redqueen

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11. They have laid out the case of media bias very clearly.
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 12:11 PM
Jan 2020

You seem to be in disagreement with them that the treatment has been clearly unfair.

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TidalWave46

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12. I'm not sure how you got that from my post.
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jan 2020

You view my comment about their connection to their ratings as flattering to the media. Very interesting take you have.

I don't see how you came to your thought that my comment is "in disagreement with them that the treatment has been clearly unfair." I have read my post multiple times and can't figure out how you got there. Unless it's simply where you wanted to go no matter what I said.

How the media works is simply understandable. Not sure how people at this point don't get it. Then again, people can hear someone saying that the medias motivations when covering politics is ratings driven and come away thinking it's a hit on Fair.org. How in the world does one come to such a conclusion?

Yang has nothing to help their ratings, is below four percent in the polls, and people act like they don't get the media aspect of the relationship. That's what I find to be strange.

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brooklynite

(94,602 posts)
9. The person to blame for Yang's lack of debate speaking is Yang...
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jan 2020

I've been in the audience for two debates with him. What I could see (and the TV viewers couldn't) is which candidates off-camera were trying to get the moderators' attention. Yang was rarely one of them.

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redqueen

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10. Was he ever? Did they call on him?
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 12:02 PM
Jan 2020

The statistics are here in black and white. I, and the people at FAIR, and many others - both Yang supporters and otherwise - recognize bias.

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