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brooklynite

(94,600 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:11 PM Jan 2020

BERN NOTICE: Biden Is Trying To Erase His Iraq War Record

Sanders 2020

Bern Notice is a production of the Bernie 2020 campaign.

Joe Biden today was called out by CNN fact checkers, after he tried to mislead an Iowa audience and erase his own record leading the fight to help Republicans pass the Iraq War resolution that Bernie fought to stop.

This is not the first time Biden has tried to erase his Iraq War actions from America’s memory. His record shows that he did not just vote for the Iraq War resolution — as Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman, Biden led the fight for the resolution, helped kill Democratic amendments to limit the resolution, and then bragged about his war support long after the war started:

• BIDEN BRAGGED ABOUT HIS SUPPORT AFTER THE IRAQ WAR BEGAN: Biden this week claimed that he opposed the Iraq War"from the very moment" it started. And yet, in a speech at the Brookings Institute in July 2003, Biden declared: "Nine months ago, I voted with my colleagues to give the president of the United States of America the authority to use force, and I would vote that way again today. It was a right vote then, and it'll be a correct vote today.”

• BIDEN HELPED THE GOP KILL DEMOCRATIC AMENDMENTS: Biden led the fight to help Republicans defeat a Democratic amendment to limit the scope of the Iraq War resolution, to make clear that it did not grant a president authority to launch any war “not directly related to a clear threat of imminent, sudden, and direct attack upon the United States.” Biden led the fight to help the GOP defeat a Democratic amendment to require the president to “use appropriate diplomatic and other peaceful means to obtain compliance by Iraq with a resolution of the United Nations Security Council” before launching a war in Iraq. And Biden helped the GOP kill a Democratic amendment to limit the president’s authority to launch a preemptive war in Iraq, only if Iraq posed an imminent threat to the United States.

By contrast, Bernie said from the beginning:"I am opposed to giving the President a blank check to launch a unilateral invasion and occupation of Iraq.” And Bernie today is pointing to the lessons of Iraq to make the case against a war in Iran:




Bern after reading,

Sirota

P.S. For a full review of just how pivotal a role Biden played in leading America into the Iraq War, read this investigation.
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BERN NOTICE: Biden Is Trying To Erase His Iraq War Record (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2020 OP
Totally false claim by the Sanders campaign. Thanks Sirota! George II Jan 2020 #1
What is false about it? vsrazdem Jan 2020 #2
What's false? The subject line - Biden is NOT "Trying To Erase His Iraq War Record", that's what. George II Jan 2020 #4
If the title bothers some, guillaumeb Jan 2020 #8
Okay, I didn't really notice the subject line, I was reading the article. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #10
Thanks, no problem. Unfortunately that's the way Sirota operates. George II Jan 2020 #11
well george, he is not being exactly honest about it. Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #26
NOTHING!! BIDEN SHOWS WHY BERNIE IS THE #1 CANDIDATE WHO CAN BE TRUSTED WITH FOREIGN POLICY!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #13
FALSE!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #18
wow wee wow wow... myohmy2 Jan 2020 #29
I'm personally tired of hearing "I was right about Iraq" from any politician Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #3
Correct. Maybe he thinks that's the last thing he was right about? George II Jan 2020 #5
Most people litigated Iraq a long time ago BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #12
Of course, cuz Biden was wrong on the IWR & it was BERNIE who was right, showing excellent judgment InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #14
Thank goodness sanders will NOT be the nominee!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #21
Don't count on it... and judging by all the Bernie bashing here lately, sure doesn't sound like InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #27
This isn't about Biden or Bernie Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #34
I know...right?!? pfeiffer Jan 2020 #28
Hint: Iraq is back of front page. crazytown Jan 2020 #30
I don't need a reminder, thanks Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #32
Sirota. Stop right there. empedocles Jan 2020 #6
More bashing of the front runner.. and false at that Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #7
LOL... so posting facts is now bashing?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #17
I would ask you the same!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #19
why is everything such a big production with that team? samnsara Jan 2020 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #15
Bernie, explain Briana Joy Gray to us? still_one Jan 2020 #16
+1000 thank goodness sanders will not be the nominee!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #20
He goes out of his way to denigrate what he views as "Establishment Democrats", with the belief that still_one Jan 2020 #22
Sanders also voted for the Iraq Liberation Act...hmm what about his judgement...and he voted for Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #23
Yes he did. still_one Jan 2020 #25
Remember Sanders daily news interview? still_one Jan 2020 #24
Bern Notice is as informative but less hilarious NYMinute Jan 2020 #31
Bernie is 100% correct about the war and Biden. Joe941 Jan 2020 #33
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. Totally false claim by the Sanders campaign. Thanks Sirota!
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:15 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
2. What is false about it?
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:20 PM
Jan 2020

"Nine months ago, I voted with my colleagues to give the president of the United States of America the authority to use force, and I would vote that way again today. It was a right vote then, and it'll be a correct vote today.”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. What's false? The subject line - Biden is NOT "Trying To Erase His Iraq War Record", that's what.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:22 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. If the title bothers some,
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:32 PM
Jan 2020

what about the actual votes?

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vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
10. Okay, I didn't really notice the subject line, I was reading the article.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:36 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Thanks, no problem. Unfortunately that's the way Sirota operates.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:39 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Voltaire2

(13,068 posts)
26. well george, he is not being exactly honest about it.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:18 PM
Jan 2020

That's the point. Once again Biden is on the record voting for and supporting legislation that he is trying to pretend he didn't vote for and support.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
13. NOTHING!! BIDEN SHOWS WHY BERNIE IS THE #1 CANDIDATE WHO CAN BE TRUSTED WITH FOREIGN POLICY!!
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jan 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
18. FALSE!!
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:48 PM
Jan 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

myohmy2

(3,163 posts)
29. wow wee wow wow...
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:23 PM
Jan 2020

"Nine months ago, I voted with my colleagues to give the president of the United States of America the authority to use force, and I would vote that way again today. It was a right vote then, and it'll be a correct vote today.”

...now THAT makes me nervous...

...today, with the war drums beating louder and louder in the Middle East, that also makes me worry...

...yet, I find it strange how Bernie seems to calm me...

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Docreed2003

(16,864 posts)
3. I'm personally tired of hearing "I was right about Iraq" from any politician
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:22 PM
Jan 2020

Congrats...plenty of people were "right" as well. That's not going to undo a damn thing that we're facing right now. Tell us what you plan to do..and no "we must prevent a war" isn't enough. We need details. Desperately.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. Correct. Maybe he thinks that's the last thing he was right about?
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:24 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
12. Most people litigated Iraq a long time ago
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:41 PM
Jan 2020

And unlike those in the Sanders camp they place the blame where it belongs — with W. That’s why this issue isn’t going to resonate with anyone.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
14. Of course, cuz Biden was wrong on the IWR & it was BERNIE who was right, showing excellent judgment
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jan 2020

on foreign policy yet again. Face it, this issue is not good for Joe... he should stop drawing attention to it!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
21. Thank goodness sanders will NOT be the nominee!!
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:56 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
27. Don't count on it... and judging by all the Bernie bashing here lately, sure doesn't sound like
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:22 PM
Jan 2020

there's a whole lotta confidence in YOUR candidate!! I mean, why are Biden supporters bothering to take SO MUCH time and effort to bash Bernie, which only serves to create unnecessary divisiveness, if the poor guy has no chance of being the Democratic nominee. Hmmmm.... it does make one wonder.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Docreed2003

(16,864 posts)
34. This isn't about Biden or Bernie
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:10 PM
Jan 2020

It would be nice if folks could drop the candidate attacks and address this like adults. What are the proposals for how to deal with the situation we have TODAY?? Saying "we're going to do what we can to avoid war" isn't enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pfeiffer

(280 posts)
28. I know...right?!?
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:22 PM
Jan 2020

It smells like so much desperation to me. It's like, "oh wait, us Bernie supporters feel like we're losing, so let's harp on the Iraq War once again! Maybe that will show 'em!"

Good grief.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
30. Hint: Iraq is back of front page.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:23 PM
Jan 2020

The prospect of another Middle East war, is a reminder go how much ordinary Democrats did not want the last one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Docreed2003

(16,864 posts)
32. I don't need a reminder, thanks
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:08 PM
Jan 2020

I know full well the situation we are in...again, I want to know what our candidates are going to do about the situation we face right now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
6. Sirota. Stop right there.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:24 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
7. More bashing of the front runner.. and false at that
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:31 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
17. LOL... so posting facts is now bashing?!
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jan 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
19. I would ask you the same!!
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:53 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
9. why is everything such a big production with that team?
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:33 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

 

still_one

(92,224 posts)
16. Bernie, explain Briana Joy Gray to us?
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jan 2020

Bernie explain why David Sirota, who slurred the Democratic nominee in the general election is part of your campaign?

Bernie, explain why you won’t release your complete medical records? Biden did

Why did you hire people who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee?



If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
20. +1000 thank goodness sanders will not be the nominee!!
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:54 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,224 posts)
22. He goes out of his way to denigrate what he views as "Establishment Democrats", with the belief that
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:01 PM
Jan 2020

will help him win the primary

That is not the most intelligent strategy

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
23. Sanders also voted for the Iraq Liberation Act...hmm what about his judgement...and he voted for
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:03 PM
Jan 2020

Afghanistan as well...so I don't see this will be all that useful..and it was 17 years ago...smacks of desperation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,224 posts)
24. Remember Sanders daily news interview?
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:04 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
31. Bern Notice is as informative but less hilarious
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:43 PM
Jan 2020

than the National Inquirer

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
33. Bernie is 100% correct about the war and Biden.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:10 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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