Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumFlashback: Joe Biden's first presidential run in 1988 cratered amid multiple instances of plagiarism
https://www.businessinsider.com/plagiarism-scandal-joe-biden-first-presidential-run-1988-2019-3
Before Joe Biden was vice president during the Barack Obama administration, and before he bowed out of the 2008 presidential race, the longtime senator from Delaware unsuccessfully ran for the 1988 Democratic presidential nomination.
Incidents of plagiarism both on the campaign trail and during his time at the Syracuse University College of Law became some of the final issues that dogged Biden before he ultimately suspended his floundering campaign.
During his failed 1988 run, Biden lifted portions of a speech by United Kingdom Labour MP and Margaret Thatcher challenger Neil Kinnock.
According to another 1987 article in The Times, Biden acknowledged plagiarizing a law review journal for a paper during law school, and asked school administrators not to be expelled. But Biden also said he made a mistake in the citation process.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
elleng
(130,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Bringing that shit up is trying to stir shit up. Tells a lot about the confidence they have or don't have in the person they support or don't support.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)But everything's cumulative.
Might as well get used to addressing the issue here, before we go live, so to speak.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)We are.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And now it's simply the pretense that an irrelevance is actually relevant.
You guys have a very fluid, and very convenient method of redefining words as it suits the moment.
At this rate, Sanders will announcing another increase in chocolate rations soon.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)The more BASHING done now the more damage to the candidate and if the candidate becomes the nominee, well, we all know what happens next, dont we.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,991 posts)This is pretty mild compared to what's to come.
(Assuming Biden becomes the nominee)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,991 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)regardless of who the nominee is.
I simply pointed to the fluid use of biased language to propel a narrative.
An observation. Which was pretty mild.
Calm yourself.
(kinda creepy when someone inaccurately instructs you on how you feel, yes?)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)was considering supporting him as my second choice for a number of reasons but not now...only in the general.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)I do a lot of research. You wouldnt like some of it. But, you do you boo.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
melman
(7,681 posts)Nothing stopping you from posting.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
melman
(7,681 posts)Which must mean they also have some you won't mind so much. So that's nice.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Cog dis provides cover for everything.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....in the last week or so have fallen flat on their faces here on Democratic Underground.
And even as we speak (type), Biden's number continue to go up and Sanders' numbers remain stagnant or fall.
I wish I was still in college, I could write a doctoral thesis on this phenomenon.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)What a desperate move.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,107 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,991 posts)Hope he has some killer responses when this comes up again because it ain't goin' away.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)The attacks on him are increasing, with no effect to his numbers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)and as for the 1988...what 32 years ago...all I can do it...
Desperation sets in among those supporters who know in their gut that their candidate will lose the primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Or saying that a woman shouldnt have the sole right to say what should happen to her body.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)But if nothing else, we now have another opportunity to attribute these alleged "attacks" to Bernie's righteous oppression by the media/establishment/polling firms/writers/voters, and drive that narrative even farther.
A win/win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,107 posts)Anything in Joe's past history is an attack, anything in Bernie past history is vetting. Get it?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Scorched earth.
Infuriating!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,043 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
janterry
(4,429 posts)I remember liking him when he first tossed his hat in
and then all of this erupted.
I was glad he dropped out.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RGTIndy
(203 posts)much less end a presidential campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,955 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RelativelyJones
(898 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Particularly about certain candidates, because it's not RELEVANT!!
SHHHHHH!!!!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)giving us an opportunity to create effective responses for the 2020 general. In 2008, 20 years AFTER the 1988 outrage, Vice President Joe Biden was on the winning presidential ticket and again in 2012. He's demonstrated he can win a general. The difference is he's now at the top of the ticket.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,870 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....is different from his positions now in 2020. It's the second decade in a new millennium.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,870 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,870 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)There are ganders, and there are geese.
They often meet.
Here's one introduction.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)It pales in comparison to what our opponents do regularly and frequently in terms of misleading and misrepresenting.
If you want to help Bernie Sanders, promote his policies and tout his accomplishments.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
boomer_wv
(673 posts)Like anybody gives a shit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aaron Pereira
(383 posts)I'm sure he's prepared to deal with any fallout from this now. Seems like ancient history.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)is talking about this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Progressives play whack-a-Joe with Biden
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/08/progressives-pre-iowa-assault-biden-095934
Were in the last 30 days of the campaign, and thats when people who are losing start attacking, Schale said. Its not surprising theyve taken more of a negative turn when they realized that Joe Biden after basically a year of being attacked is still the frontrunner.
These attacks amuse me
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)more negative. Sad to see.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)fit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,163 posts)" Incidents of plagiarism both on the campaign trail and during his time at the Syracuse University College of Law became some of the final issues that dogged Biden before he ultimately suspended his floundering campaign. "
...wow...
...something to think about...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)we apparently can't look back to Biden's actual run in 1988 and why Biden ultimately dropped out of the race because of accusations of plagerism and exaggeration.
One is apparently very very meaningful and one is just invented scandal - that somehow has something to do with Sanders although he certainly wasn't involved in Biden's 1988 presidential run.
My brain is probably fried from trying to figure out so much hypocrisy which is, I'm sure, why I have a hard time understanding what's allowed and what's not.
But carry on . . .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(7,314 posts)the "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" phase of their campaign.
Just makes me mad, and I'm not even a huge Biden fan.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(7,314 posts)This isn't gonna attract votes for Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MFM008
(19,818 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)I seem to remember someone lying about endorsements they did not receive several times during their last presidential run.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden