Democratic Primaries

liskddksil

(2,753 posts) Tue Jan 7, 2020, 10:53 AM Jan 2020

Ed "Deform" candidate Mike Bloomberg plans to Promote Charter Schools

Presidential hopeful Mike Bloomberg may have backed off supporting stop-and-frisk, but he plans to double-down on another controversial policy from his time as New York Mayor — expanding charter schools.

Bloomberg will soon roll out an education plan that will include backing the privately managed schools as an option for families, his campaign office told The Post — drawing a contrast with other top-tier Democratic presidential rivals.

“Mike’s education plan will absolutely promote charter schools,” Bloomberg campaign spokesman Stu Loeser insisted.

https://nypost.com/2020/01/05/bloomberg-education-plan-to-promote-charter-school-expansion/?fbclid=IwAR0T7t-ZCIzTyVR-1OLoswvFYIcmcfAbFxXYBjwDepnpyTalt4dmbQmV6oc

One snapshot of the destruction Bloomberg's policies caused on NYC public schools. For more read Diane Ravitch's The Death and Life of Public Schools, and Reign of Error

https://socialistworker.org/2013/11/12/good-riddance-to-pep-puppets

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Ed "Deform" candidate Mike Bloomberg plans to Promote Charter Schools (Original Post) liskddksil Jan 2020 OP

Eh charter schools have their place Loki Liesmith Jan 2020 #1

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #2

Then you will be, effectively, voting for Trump. Squinch Jan 2020 #3

Good thing fake Democrat Bloomberg liskddksil Jan 2020 #4

But if he does win the nomination, and you don't vote for him, you will be voting for Trump. Squinch Jan 2020 #5

I didn't say I wouldn't vote for him if that .01 percent nighmare scenario happened liskddksil Jan 2020 #6

My mistake. I'm sorry. Squinch Jan 2020 #8

Damn Bloomberg, he better not run as a 3rd party. lark Jan 2020 #7

What clues did JFK have about ordinary people's lives? brooklynite Jan 2020 #9

You still going to support him if he runs 3rd party? lark Jan 2020 #11

He's not going to run third Party. He's made that clear. brooklynite Jan 2020 #12

Guess I just have a deep distrust of billionaires, they've fucked the country for so long. lark Jan 2020 #13

We should kick out George Soros then? brooklynite Jan 2020 #14

Was George Soros financially backing Republican candidates in 2016? bullwinkle428 Jan 2020 #15

The person I was responding to seems to feel that Billionaires are generically bad. brooklynite Jan 2020 #16

That is not what I said. lark Jan 2020 #18

He maxed out to NC Superintendent of Schools (at the time challenger) Mark Johnson dsc Jan 2020 #10

Cory Booker: Stop Being Dogmatic About Public Charter Schools brooklynite Jan 2020 #17

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)

1. Eh charter schools have their place

Reply to liskddksil (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 10:59 AM

Jan 2020

It all depends on implementation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Squinch

(50,957 posts)

3. Then you will be, effectively, voting for Trump.

Reply to Post removed (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:13 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

liskddksil

(2,753 posts)

4. Good thing fake Democrat Bloomberg

Reply to Squinch (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:16 AM

Jan 2020

who has enabled Moscow Mitch's majority with his past endorsements has no chance of being the nominee, I will do everything in my power to stop him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Squinch

(50,957 posts)

5. But if he does win the nomination, and you don't vote for him, you will be voting for Trump.

Reply to liskddksil (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:26 AM

Jan 2020

There is no excuse for saying, "If candidate X wins the primary, I will not vote for him." No matter who the candidate is.

I'm not a fan of Bloomberg but I'll vote for him if he's the candidate.

The kind of idiocy that says, "If I don't get my way I will take my ball and go home!" is what got us into this mess to begin with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

liskddksil

(2,753 posts)

6. I didn't say I wouldn't vote for him if that .01 percent nighmare scenario happened

Reply to Squinch (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:34 AM

Jan 2020

that was another poster.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Squinch

(50,957 posts)

8. My mistake. I'm sorry.

Reply to liskddksil (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:57 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

lark

(23,123 posts)

7. Damn Bloomberg, he better not run as a 3rd party.

Reply to liskddksil (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:46 AM

Jan 2020

Don't think he can win the Dem nomination, despite throwing a ton of $$ at it. He is not our friend, billionaires just don't have any clue about ordinary people's lives. Backing Charter schools is heinous and disqualifying in my book, but then so was Stop and Frisk.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)

9. What clues did JFK have about ordinary people's lives?

Reply to lark (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 12:46 PM

Jan 2020

Bloomberg was a Mayor for 12 years. Elected by Democrats three times. Whether you liked his policies or not, that gives him perspective.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

lark

(23,123 posts)

11. You still going to support him if he runs 3rd party?

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 04:31 PM

Jan 2020

I will pledge to support him if the wins the Democratic nomination but there are other Democrats I think would be far better

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)

12. He's not going to run third Party. He's made that clear.

Reply to lark (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 05:14 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

lark

(23,123 posts)

13. Guess I just have a deep distrust of billionaires, they've fucked the country for so long.

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 9, 2020, 09:40 AM

Jan 2020

I hope and pray he sticks to this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)

14. We should kick out George Soros then?

Reply to lark (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:22 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)

15. Was George Soros financially backing Republican candidates in 2016?

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:30 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)

16. The person I was responding to seems to feel that Billionaires are generically bad.

Reply to bullwinkle428 (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:11 AM

Jan 2020

As for Bloomberg's endorsements, he has also backed myriad Democrats. He's a big gun control advocate and goes where he can for support (the Pat Toomey endorsement, which he gets heat for, was supported by Gabby Giffords as well).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

lark

(23,123 posts)

18. That is not what I said.

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:41 PM

Jan 2020

I don't trust the billionaires trying to run things for the benefit of themselves and other oligarchs - which is most of them. Bloomberg is running for president, Soros isn't - huge difference. I have no problem with billionaire folks who use their money to good cause, yes give the DNC huge donations, buy tv ads, support good Dems incumbents and challengers, support alternative energy sources. It's just most got to be billionaires by bilking others and scamming & stealing from the working class is generally their way of life - Adelson, Sinclairs, Murdoch, Koch are all examples of oligarchs that are dangerous. Far more of them than the 1-2 good guys.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

dsc

(52,164 posts)

10. He maxed out to NC Superintendent of Schools (at the time challenger) Mark Johnson

Reply to liskddksil (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 03:32 PM

Jan 2020

and that is disqualifying for me. Not only was he GOP, he was horrific and has been horrifically anti teacher.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)

17. Cory Booker: Stop Being Dogmatic About Public Charter Schools

Reply to liskddksil (Original post)

Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:13 PM

Jan 2020

When I was mayor of Newark, we invested in both traditional public schools and high-performing public charter schools. Following our efforts, the citywide graduation rate rose to 77 percent in 2018 from just above 50 percent a decade ago. Today, Newark is ranked the No. 1 city in America for “beat the odds” high-poverty, high-performance schools by the Center on Reinventing Public Education.

We refused to accept the false choice between supporting public-school teachers and giving parents options for their kids when they had none, and the city worked with our local teacher’s union to give our public school teachers a raise too. And we didn’t just blindly invest in good public charter schools, Newark closed bad ones too.

As Democrats, we can’t continue to fall into the trap of dismissing good ideas because they don’t fit into neat ideological boxes or don’t personally affect some of the louder, more privileged voices in the party. These are not abstract issues for many low-to-middle-income families, and we should have a stronger sense of urgency, and a more courageous empathy, about their plight.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/18/opinion/cory-booker-public-charter-schools.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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