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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Gothmog

(145,479 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:00 AM Jan 2020

If Biden wins the nomination, this might be why




If former vice president Joe Biden wins the Democratic presidential nomination, his success might be attributable to two factors: his defense of President Barack Obama’s record and his foreign policy views. He showed off both Wednesday night.....

Biden accomplishes two things here. First, he reaffirms his bond with Obama, who remains overwhelmingly popular with Democratic voters, most especially with African American voters. Certainly, Biden benefits from association with a popular ex-president, but he also reminds Democrats that unlike his opponents who want “revolutionary change," he wants to build on the Obama legacy. Second, Biden’s analysis is essentially correct, and his rivals would be foolish not to adopt it....

It is one thing to criticize Trump for making hash out of our Middle East policy, however, and quite another to construct a coherent plan for improving matters. What is the endpoint we seek? If we aim to renew the Iran deal, decrease Iranian aggression in the region and maintain vigilance against the Islamic State, then immediately bugging out of Iran, Syria and Afghanistan — as some of Biden’s opponents suggest — would be foolhardy. Simply reciting platitudes such as “Get out of the Middle East” does not engender confidence among voters and frankly does not present much of a contrast to Trump.

Biden offers something more concrete and realistic: Keep allies together, use carrots and sticks to get back to an acceptable nuclear deal and attempt to ratchet down the chance for war. That requires a whole lot of finesse, which is not amenable to bumper-sticker promises: Work with our allies. Don’t govern by tweet. Use diplomacy. That’s as simplistic and unimpressive as “Iran won’t get a nuclear weapon on my watch.” Biden opponents’ one-liners or one-upmanship about who opposed the Iraq War first will strike many voters as childish.

Candidates need to show that they understand the challenges they will face going forward. One of them might inherit the Trump legacy of chaos, instability, broken alliances and disdain for human rights.

Biden's support of President Obama is a good thing
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
1. Jennifer Rubin, Conservative Blogger, "helping" Democrats pick our Nominee.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:08 AM
Jan 2020
Jennifer Rubin

@JRubinBlogger
Conservative blogger at @WashingtonPost


How nice of her.

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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
2. Rubin is right-winger who hates Trump
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:28 AM
Jan 2020

She wants two Republican parties …..I'll settle for one , thank you very much …..She isn't interested in the more prosaic bread and butter issues like healthcare ... ...Her bread is buttered by Jeff Bezos ….Back in the real world , most of us are sick and tired of settling for an ever smaller slice of the bread ….Sick and tired of the endless wars of they type Jennifer promoted in the early 2000's …… When the GOP nominates a less uncouth, but equally dangerous nominee -like Nikki Haley- Jen will be back on Team GOP

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Cha

(297,494 posts)
5. Oh rita.. here you are AGAIN.. Trying to DISTRACT
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:40 AM
Jan 2020

from Indisputable FACTS.

IT'S STILL NOT WORKING.. but hey you kick the Thread so Others Can SEE IT

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redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
6. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Rubin hates Trump
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:03 AM
Jan 2020

I’ll worry about her after Trump is gone. Right now she wants to take down Trump and so do I

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PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
7. Most people are right now and then
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:18 AM
Jan 2020

Just because I may disagree with them on some issues, doesn't mean I won't acknowledge when I think they are right. Tearing down anyone and everyone who is a self-described conservative is not productive and will only serve to make our divisions that much greater.

There is a hardcore republican base out there that will probably never try to find common ground, but there are other moderates who are not extreme and want to help heal the country. We won't win every fight, but if we don't close our minds, we won't lose every fight either.

And no, I don't think Rubin wants two republican parties. I think that like so many of us, she wants some sanity and competence in DC. Then we can go back to disagreeing with her on so many issues that we care about.

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Indykatie

(3,697 posts)
9. I Wouldn't Classify Someone With Liberal Social Views as a Right-Winger
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:20 AM
Jan 2020

She's a conservative sure but then we have some elected Dems who are more conservative than Rubin.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. Nothing you stated either strengthens or weakens the conclusions of the author
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 11:22 AM
Jan 2020

In science, that's called an irrelevant factor.

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oasis

(49,398 posts)
3. Makes plenty sense to me.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:29 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

question everything

(47,518 posts)
8. This is why I supported his short 2008 campaign.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:24 AM
Jan 2020

There was a debate and it was clear that his grasp of foreign affairs was the best. This was the reason why Obama picked him as V.P,

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
10. I'll defend President Obama 8 days week
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:30 AM
Jan 2020

But Never Trumpers like Rubin can go to hell. Once trump is out of the way, she will go back to bashing Democrats every day and twice on Sundays.

Ex-Washington Post ombudsman: 'Fire Jennifer Rubin'
https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/08/ex-washington-post-ombudsman-fire-jennifer-rubin-170603

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