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Donkees

(31,447 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:02 PM Jan 2020

Dr. Cornel West Explains Why Bernie Beats Trump



Jan 10, 2020

"Bernie Sanders has a backbone. That’s what it is to have integrity. That’s what it is to have courage and conviction and commitment and that consistency over time and space."
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Dr. Cornel West Explains Why Bernie Beats Trump (Original Post) Donkees Jan 2020 OP
Cornel West who voted for Jill Stein has absolutely no credibility anymore. He did his part to see still_one Jan 2020 #1
and who attacked Obama at every turn. I think West has as much raw envy for Obama hlthe2b Jan 2020 #4
I agree, and do not think he is doing Sanders any favors by endorsing Sanders still_one Jan 2020 #7
+1 TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #5
Cornel West to Activists, Immigrants: Let's Dump The Democratic Party TomCADem Jan 2020 #61
Agreed. still_one Jan 2020 #62
Big deal. Any of our top candidates could beat Trump. What West can't explain pnwmom Jan 2020 #2
re:"how Bernie will ever win...when Hillary voters have...Biden, Warren, and Klobuchar to pick from" thesquanderer Jan 2020 #14
No one can win the primaries with a mere plurality. If Bernie doesn't get 51%, pnwmom Jan 2020 #18
Meh. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #3
+1 TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #6
West's grip on reality is more tenuous than Williamson's LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #8
Dr West is principled booley Jan 2020 #9
Not disloyal Dem4Life1102 Jan 2020 #10
He endorsed and voted for Stein. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #17
LOL. His ego is his driving force. That's why he loved to denigrate Obama. pnwmom Jan 2020 #19
No he isn't... he's a Sucker for Jill Stein's LIES and Cha Jan 2020 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author RestoreAmerica2020 Jan 2020 #39
Agreed. His message is powerful! Have always admired Dr. West, his activism and advocacy--he walks RestoreAmerica2020 Jan 2020 #41
He's nuts. And I have proof. pangaia Jan 2020 #48
There is only one way Sanders wins if he gets the nomination. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #11
I like Bernie fine. Cornel West is a loud mouthed jack ass. phleshdef Jan 2020 #12
" He is 5 million dollar word salad with legs." pangaia Jan 2020 #49
Colonel West holds no currency with me. Who cares what Pisces Jan 2020 #13
Excellent! Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #15
I'm not taking anything from that jill stein PUSHER.. and Cha Jan 2020 #16
I personally would not bring up the name Cornel West on a forum for Democratic loyalists The Valley Below Jan 2020 #20
And calling him Doctor doesn't actually help. emmaverybo Jan 2020 #35
I wonder if he's joined Doctors for Bernie? The Valley Below Jan 2020 #45
+100 MineralMan Jan 2020 #52
Oh that's good. emmaverybo Jan 2020 #58
Do you think West will support the Democratic nominee if it's not Sanders? I don't comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #21
Every time that I see Cornel West, Blue_true Jan 2020 #23
Fuck Cornel West - he belongs in a senile ward in a nursing home NYMinute Jan 2020 #24
The revolution is "morally based, ethically based." betsuni Jan 2020 #25
uh huh Cha Jan 2020 #28
Great vid!! The truth hurts, I know Biden fans, but, please, feel free to bash away!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #26
Wow. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #31
Cornel West once called President Obama a "house Negro." The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #53
LOL. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #27
No doubt out of petty jealousy.. Cha Jan 2020 #30
"Petty" being the operative word. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #32
So Beyond Petty as to be in the Cha Jan 2020 #33
Most definitely. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #36
It was all about the tickets. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #34
Talk about petty! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #37
Trashing...Stein voter...never never care what this person thinks about anything...He helped elect Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #29
West and Tavis Smiley bashed Obama as a candidate. Now he talks about mfcorey1 Jan 2020 #38
Both of them can fuck themselves... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #43
Tavis Smiley's got some of his own problems right now... SidDithers Jan 2020 #47
Cornel will be highly pissed if he doesn't get a seat in Bernie's cabinet. oasis Jan 2020 #40
Fortunately there won't be a Bernie's cabinet for him to want a seat in. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #56
Damn, Jeff Weaver very much wanted to be Sec. of State. oasis Jan 2020 #60
Tell me: was this meant to be a compelling argument for anyone not already supporting Bernie? brooklynite Jan 2020 #42
After the last election Historic NY Jan 2020 #44
... SidDithers Jan 2020 #46
Another Jill Stein Voter for Sanders? MineralMan Jan 2020 #50
has he EVER been right about anything? lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #51
Cornel West on Obama: "The First Black President Has Become The First Niggerized Black President" RandySF Jan 2020 #54
If you ask me it's the equivalent of getting the endorsement of David Duke The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #55
I don't think it's a coincidence Cornel West hasn't been on Bill Maher for a while. Seasider Jan 2020 #57
... mcar Jan 2020 #59
The last time we experimented with a close to Bernie and Liz candidate was in 1972-George McGovern. Gothmog Jan 2020 #63
https://twitter.com/PaigeinTN/status/1217077366146637829 [div class"excerpt"]Joe has more relation Gothmog Jan 2020 #64
 

still_one

(92,348 posts)
1. Cornel West who voted for Jill Stein has absolutely no credibility anymore. He did his part to see
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:46 PM - Edit history (1)

trump is in the WH

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hlthe2b

(102,331 posts)
4. and who attacked Obama at every turn. I think West has as much raw envy for Obama
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jan 2020

and subsequent need to tear him down as a certain WH usurper. I don't compare the two in any other way except to say that has likewise destroyed West's reputation--at least with me.

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still_one

(92,348 posts)
7. I agree, and do not think he is doing Sanders any favors by endorsing Sanders
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jan 2020
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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
61. Cornel West to Activists, Immigrants: Let's Dump The Democratic Party
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 05:18 PM
Jan 2020

Cornel West is an agitator. He is not a progressive. He has turned his back on the grassroots, social justice causes, as was the case when he went to the "Gathering" hosted by Bernie Sanders, which excluded local members of the NAACP. Rather than standing solidarity with his brothers, Cornel West abandoned them.

https://www.colorlines.com/articles/cornel-west-activists-immigrants-lets-dump-democratic-party

Professor and author Dr. Cornel West has a message for people who identify themselves as political and social progressives: “The neoliberal vision of the Democratic party has run its course.”

In an essay published by The Guardian today (April 24), West argues that the first 100 days of President Donald Trump’s term in office makes it clear that the Democratic party is not capable of leading progressives in a time when the GOP dominates the American political landscape.

* * *
A group of former Bernie Sanders staffers have come together to convince Sanders to head a new “people’s party,” and West makes an appeal to immigrants, activists and progressive leaders to join the ranks:

And if a class-conscious multi-racial party attuned to anti-sexist, anti-homophobic and anti-militaristic issues and grounded in ecological commitments can reconfigure our citizenship, maybe our decaying democracy has a chance. And if brother Bernie Sanders decides to join us—with many others, including sister Jill Stein and activists from Black Lives Matter and Brown immigrant groups and Standing Rock freedom fighters and betrayed working people—we may build something for the near future after Trump implodes.
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pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
2. Big deal. Any of our top candidates could beat Trump. What West can't explain
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:10 PM
Jan 2020

is how Bernie will ever win the primary, when Hillary voters have options like Biden, Warren, and Klobuchar to pick from.

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thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
14. re:"how Bernie will ever win...when Hillary voters have...Biden, Warren, and Klobuchar to pick from"
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jan 2020

Maybe if Hillary voters split themselves among those three candidates...?

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pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
18. No one can win the primaries with a mere plurality. If Bernie doesn't get 51%,
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 06:39 PM
Jan 2020

which he won't -- he's never even been close -- then the convention will determine the winner in subsequent votes.

And the majority of electors won't unite behind anyone seen as divisive, who frequently complains about the Democratic party, and is already registered as an Independent for his next Senate run.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
3. Meh.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:10 PM
Jan 2020

Stein voter helped give us Trump.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
8. West's grip on reality is more tenuous than Williamson's
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Fri Jan 10, 2020, 06:57 PM - Edit history (1)

And he's a significant part of how we got Trump

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booley

(3,855 posts)
9. Dr West is principled
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jan 2020

He doesn't' choose based on what party the candidate is but how close that Candidate fits those principles.

I think a lot of people have a problem with that, seeing it as disloyal somehow. But that doesn't make him not right.

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Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
10. Not disloyal
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jan 2020

But a betrayal of all the principles that he say he believes in by not doing everything in his power to stop Trump from winning in 16.

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sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
17. He endorsed and voted for Stein.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:49 PM
Jan 2020
booley
9. Dr West is principled

He doesn't' choose based on what party the candidate is but how close that Candidate fits those principles.


He has also bashed Obama endlessly, saying he was not "black enough" and called him a house negro.

I have no use for West.
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pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
19. LOL. His ego is his driving force. That's why he loved to denigrate Obama.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jan 2020

Obama's successes vastly eclipsed the professor's.

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Cha

(297,503 posts)
22. No he isn't... he's a Sucker for Jill Stein's LIES and
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:30 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to booley (Reply #9)

 

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,438 posts)
41. Agreed. His message is powerful! Have always admired Dr. West, his activism and advocacy--he walks
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:51 AM
Jan 2020

.the walk. He gave a wonderful speech at Sander's Los Angeles rallly--he's a passionate orator.



.

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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
48. He's nuts. And I have proof.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:52 PM
Jan 2020

I've heard him once or twice on the airwaves transmitter, while driving...

Once or twice was enough....

But, meh, I'm just having a late coffee....


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TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
11. There is only one way Sanders wins if he gets the nomination.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:59 PM
Jan 2020
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1287407911#post13

Less than a month out and Sanders Fellows are still trying to prove Sanders is electable. That is a bad spot to be in.

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phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
12. I like Bernie fine. Cornel West is a loud mouthed jack ass.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 04:00 PM
Jan 2020

He is 5 million dollar word salad with legs.

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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
49. " He is 5 million dollar word salad with legs."
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:52 PM
Jan 2020



AND BIG HAIR !!!!!!



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Pisces

(5,602 posts)
13. Colonel West holds no currency with me. Who cares what
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 04:08 PM
Jan 2020

This fool says or thinks.

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Uncle Joe

(58,389 posts)
15. Excellent!
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jan 2020



Thanks for the thread Donkees.
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Cha

(297,503 posts)
16. I'm not taking anything from that jill stein PUSHER.. and
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 05:33 PM
Jan 2020

President Obama WHINER.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
20. I personally would not bring up the name Cornel West on a forum for Democratic loyalists
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 06:56 PM
Jan 2020

if you hope to elicit a positive response for your candidate, as you are more likely to fuel rage and animosity.

Strictly your call.



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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
35. And calling him Doctor doesn't actually help.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:54 PM
Jan 2020
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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
45. I wonder if he's joined Doctors for Bernie?
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 03:11 AM
Jan 2020
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comradebillyboy

(10,174 posts)
21. Do you think West will support the Democratic nominee if it's not Sanders? I don't
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:24 PM
Jan 2020

think he will.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. Every time that I see Cornel West,
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 09:35 PM
Jan 2020

I see a wild eyed person that has an outdated, bad haircut.

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
24. Fuck Cornel West - he belongs in a senile ward in a nursing home
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:06 PM
Jan 2020
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betsuni

(25,596 posts)
25. The revolution is "morally based, ethically based."
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:14 PM
Jan 2020
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
26. Great vid!! The truth hurts, I know Biden fans, but, please, feel free to bash away!!
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:29 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:22 AM - Edit history (2)

Thanks for posting Donkees.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

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sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
31. Wow.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:44 PM
Jan 2020

I am shocked that you disagree with Donkees and Cornell.

InAbLuEsTaTe

26. The truth hurts... but, please, feel free to bash away!!


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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
53. Cornel West once called President Obama a "house Negro."
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 04:29 PM
Jan 2020

Has the Cult of Bernie gone so far as to seriously believe that an endorsement from someone who regularly bashed the best president of most of our lifetimes a good thing? It sure won't win the hearts and minds of many real Democrats.

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greatauntoftriplets

(175,748 posts)
27. LOL.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:38 PM
Jan 2020

Says the man who bashed President Obama, likely out of jealousy.

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Cha

(297,503 posts)
30. No doubt out of petty jealousy..
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:43 PM
Jan 2020
Cornel West v. Barack Obama

https://www.thenation.com/article/cornel-west-v-barack-obama/

Aloha, greataunt!
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greatauntoftriplets

(175,748 posts)
32. "Petty" being the operative word.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:49 PM
Jan 2020

Aloha, Cha!

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Cha

(297,503 posts)
33. So Beyond Petty as to be in the
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:52 PM
Jan 2020

Realm of the Ridiculousness!

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sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
34. It was all about the tickets.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:53 PM
Jan 2020

He flew mom to DC. He never received tickets to the inauguration and was pissed.

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greatauntoftriplets

(175,748 posts)
37. Talk about petty!
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 11:09 PM
Jan 2020

The president of the company I worked for at the time and his entire family went. But I'm sure they paid for their own plane tickets.

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Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
29. Trashing...Stein voter...never never care what this person thinks about anything...He helped elect
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:40 PM
Jan 2020

Trump.

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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
38. West and Tavis Smiley bashed Obama as a candidate. Now he talks about
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:30 AM
Jan 2020

he wanted tickets for someone he did not want to win. Come on, West. Your erratic behavior has a lot of backdrop. Some of us have not forgotten.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cornel-west-tavis-smiley-_1_b_3649934

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Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
43. Both of them can fuck themselves...
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 02:03 AM
Jan 2020
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oasis

(49,398 posts)
40. Cornel will be highly pissed if he doesn't get a seat in Bernie's cabinet.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:47 AM
Jan 2020

West believes himself to be the wisest human on the planet.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
56. Fortunately there won't be a Bernie's cabinet for him to want a seat in.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jan 2020
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oasis

(49,398 posts)
60. Damn, Jeff Weaver very much wanted to be Sec. of State.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 03:37 PM
Jan 2020
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brooklynite

(94,683 posts)
42. Tell me: was this meant to be a compelling argument for anyone not already supporting Bernie?
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 01:49 AM
Jan 2020
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Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
44. After the last election
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 02:54 AM
Jan 2020

any Democrat getting near him should lose.

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MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
50. Another Jill Stein Voter for Sanders?
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 04:23 PM
Jan 2020

And you're posting this as though it's a good thing? Really? Do you think that helps your favorite candidate somehow? Odd.

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lapfog_1

(29,219 posts)
51. has he EVER been right about anything?
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 04:25 PM
Jan 2020

I can't recall a single thing

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RandySF

(59,104 posts)
54. Cornel West on Obama: "The First Black President Has Become The First Niggerized Black President"
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 04:29 PM
Jan 2020
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
55. If you ask me it's the equivalent of getting the endorsement of David Duke
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 04:33 PM
Jan 2020

but at the other end of the political spectrum. Nothing to brag about.

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Seasider

(169 posts)
57. I don't think it's a coincidence Cornel West hasn't been on Bill Maher for a while.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 05:17 PM
Jan 2020

He used to be a regular then Maher got fed up with his pro-Bernie antics and called him out on his BS.

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Gothmog

(145,481 posts)
63. The last time we experimented with a close to Bernie and Liz candidate was in 1972-George McGovern.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 06:39 PM
Jan 2020
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Gothmog

(145,481 posts)
64. https://twitter.com/PaigeinTN/status/1217077366146637829 [div class"excerpt"]Joe has more relation
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:46 PM
Jan 2020



Joe has more relationships in our communities than anyone else in this race.

He has more history with our communities than anyone else in this race.

And Joe is more comfortable in our communities than anyone else in this race.

To say that Joe has betrayed black voters is not only dangerous, it is flat-out wrong. We already know his character, his heart and his record; you can’t try to make us believe something that runs counter to our own experiences with Joe Biden.

Not only has Joe spent his entire career fighting for civil rights, voting rights, equal justice and equal opportunity, it is what brought him into public service in the first place. In fact, Joe led the charge as a United States senator to extend and strengthen the Voting Rights Act in 1982.

He has fought for more resources to prosecute hate crimes, including resources for the Justice Department and FBI to reopen painful, unsolved murders from the civil rights era.

And in one of the greatest achievements of his career, Joe forged a path for the protection of women and girls — including women of color — by writing and spearheading the Violence Against Women Act.

Here’s what I don’t understand: If Joe Biden wasn’t a champion for black America, why did Barack Obama, our nation’s first African American president, choose Joe to be his vice president?

In my lifetime Joe’s steadfast support as Obama’s No. 2 was unprecedented; it was one of the first occasions when people who look like me were able to see a white man standing proudly and loyally behind a black man. And I can tell you this: South Carolina voters will never forget that.
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