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Related: About this forumVermont's Black Leaders: We Were 'Invisible' to Bernie Sanders
It seems that the Bernie campaign has been recently leaning on folks like Nina Turner and Cornel West to validate Bernie Sanders as a person who is responsive to the concerns of minorities. However, in terms of actual actions, Bernie has long ignored his own minorities constituents. Trump hiring Omarosa Manigault does not make mean that he is not racist, and Bernie Sanders getting Nina Turner and Cornel West to vouch for him does not erase his history of inaction with respect to his own constituents:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/vermonts-black-leaders-we-were-invisible-to-bernie-sanders
The audience of African-American activists and other Vermonters of color should have been a friendly one for the socialist congressman.
Instead, remembers Curtiss Reed Jr., the executive director of the group, it became something of a showdown. Sanders was just really dismissive of anything that had to do with race and racism, saying that they didnt have anything to do with the issues of income inequality, Reed told The Daily Beast.
He just always kept coming back to income inequality as a response, as if talking about income inequality would somehow make issues of racism go away.
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Cha
(297,692 posts)Vermont, Tom.
Another "misstep" from BS.
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)"Updated Apr. 13, 2017 5:44PM ET / Published Feb. 17, 2016 12:01AM ET "
An old article from 2016 about something that happened in 2006?
Ok....
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Cha
(297,692 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Old articles should be prominently labeled as such in the OP post, but that's just my opinion about being honest and transparent.
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oasis
(49,409 posts)the anti-Biden crowd.
I just laugh at the hypocrisy.
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They do tend to be somewhat inconsistent.
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TomCADem
(17,390 posts)Don't worry. As this December 2018 article makes clear, Bernie Sanders has consistently turned his back on his minority constituents. You would think that Bernie would be responsive to criticism, but instead he doubles down and once again ignores his own constituents, but invites out of state celebrities like Cornel West and Nina Turner to vouch for him instead.
https://vtdigger.org/2018/12/03/state-activists-question-inclusivity-sanders-institute-gathering/
A progressive agenda that promised to raise an intersectional approach to ending injustice and oppression in our backyard? Pohl-Moore recalls thinking. We would finally be heard and seen here in Vermont.
* * *
As I neared the end of the star-laden roster, she says, I wondered how many justice leaders from Vermont had been invited.
A schedule of speakers revealed that, amid such celebrities as Danny Glover and Susan Sarandon, only a half-dozen Green Mountain State residents would take the stage: Sanders and his wife, ice cream icon Ben Cohen, Burlington Associates partner John Davis, environmental writer Bill McKibben and Champlain Housing Trust CEO Brenda Torpy.
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Response to TomCADem (Reply #6)
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)You dont know what you dont know, and he hasnt had to be accountable to communities of color before, she said. And others say that if Sanders was quiet on the issues before, he is making up for it now with his frequent mentions of the unequal justice system at his rallies.
He could have been a little more forceful around the race issue as a senator, said Paij Wadley-Bailey, the director of the Vermont Anti-Racism Action Team and a longtime supporter of Sanderss. It is good that he is beginning it now but it would have been even better if he had made it more a part of his positions before.
[correction:] That's from your 4 year OLD article.
Sounds like good evolution on Sanders part, doesn't it?
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TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...rather than an honest effort to address the social justice needs of Bernie's constituents. It was a campaign/fundraising event, rather than an attempt to be responsive to the needs of the people. So, you are right, this was more of a campaign event even though it was sponsored by Bernie's tax exempt foundation, which creates its own issues.
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)The Black Sanders supporter I quoted was actually from YOUR four year old article, not the second one from 2018. Sorry for my confusing the articles.
As for this latest article from 2018:
It was a gathering of progressive leaders from across the country and around the world hosted by the Sanders Institute. We understand the overall concerns the writers of the letter addressed and will continue to work for the same goals of racial, social, economic and environmental justice.
Have a nice day.
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TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...and I was agreeing that Bernie Supporters were quite happy about an event that catered to them. Also, look at your own quote, "the Sanders Institute, founded by Jane Sanders and her son, David Driscoll, who serves as its executive director..."
Tell me how does that help Bernie? This is Bernie's own tax-exempt foundation, which has his son-in-law on its payroll, hosting an event on racial and social justice, where local Vermont black leaders were excluded. Instead, as you quoted above, you have various Bernie supporters in attendance who were (not surprisingly) happy with the event.
Also, you say this is not an event sponsored by Senator Sanders. Really? The Sanders Institute.
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)Lets look at the speaker list and see if your statement "rather than an attempt to be responsive to the needs of the people" holds water...
Shall we start with DANNY GLOVER?
OK...
Civil rights activism[edit]
Glover speaks at a March for Immigrants Rights in Madison, Wisconsin, in 2007
While attending San Francisco State University (SFSU), Glover was a member of the Black Students' Union,[28] which, along with the Third World Liberation Front and the American Federation of Teachers, collaborated in a five-month student-led strike to establish a Department of Black Studies. The strike was the longest student walkout in U.S. history.[29] It helped create not only the first Department of Black Studies but also the first School of Ethnic Studies in the United States.
Hari Dillon, current president of the Vanguard Public Foundation, was a fellow striker at SFSU. Glover later co-chaired Vanguard's board. He is also a board member of the Algebra Project, the Black AIDS Institute, Walden House and Cheryl Byron's Something Positive Dance Group. He was charged with disorderly conduct and unlawful assembly after being arrested outside the Sudanese Embassy in Washington during a protest over Sudan's humanitarian crisis in Darfur.[30]
In 1999, he used his leverage as a former San Francisco cab driver to raise awareness about African Americans being passed over for white passengers. In response, Rudolph Giuliani launched Operation Refusal, which suspended the licenses of cab drivers who favored white passengers over black ones.
Glover's long history of union activism includes support for the United Farm Workers, UNITE HERE, and numerous service unions.[31] In March 2010, Glover supported 375 Union workers in Ohio by calling upon all actors at the 2010 Academy Awards to boycott Hugo Boss suits following announcement of Hugo Boss's decision to close a manufacturing plant in Ohio after a proposed pay decrease from $13 to $8.30 an hour was rejected by the Workers United Union.[32]
On November 1, 2011, Glover spoke to the crowd at Occupy Oakland on the day before the Oakland General Strike where thousands of protestors shut down the Port of Oakland.[33]
Is Danny Glover not a prominent enough Black social Justice activist?
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bluewater
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Brenda Torpy has 34 years of experience in the affordable housing field, starting with rural community development and affordable housing advocacy in northern Vermont. As the Community and Economic Development Offices first Housing Director for the City of Burlington, Brenda led the development of the Burlington Community Land Trust, now Champlain Housing Trust, and served as the founding Board President. In 1991, she joined the staff as Executive Director. In 2008 CHT was recognized for its innovation with a United Nations World Habitat Award.
Brenda has also worked for the Vermont Housing Finance Agency as Development Director, and coordinated the $21 million tenant-led buyout of Northgate Apartments, 336 apartments that needed extensive rehabilitation and reinvestment to assure continued affordability. Brenda was a Ford Foundation Leader for a Changing World 2002, is President of the National Community Land Trust Network, and serves on the Governors Housing Council of Vermont.
Gee... Brenda Torpy... 34 years of experience in the affordable housing field... that sure sounds like aperson active in social justice issues to me...
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TomCADem
(17,390 posts)Like I said, this was a thinly disguised campaign event designed to cater to Bernie Sander's campaign contributors.
https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Brenda+Torpy
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)Chief Executive Officer
Brenda Torpy has 34 years of experience in the affordable housing field, starting with rural community development and affordable housing advocacy in northern Vermont. As the Community and Economic Development Offices first Housing Director for the City of Burlington, Brenda led the development of the Burlington Community Land Trust, now Champlain Housing Trust, and served as the founding Board President. In 1991, she joined the staff as Executive Director.
The Champlain Housing Trust is the nations largest community land trust with over 6,000 members, 90 employees and 2,600 affordable homes in northwest Vermont, including 566 in their shared appreciation homeownership portfolio along with multiple non-profit facilities, retail and commercial tenants. Under Brendas leadership, CHT was selected as the 2008 winner of the UN World Habitat Award and Brenda has travelled extensively as a speaker and to assist start-ups of CLTs both nationally and internationally. CHT does $90 million in development annually, has an operating budget of $10 million and nearly $300 million in assets under its stewardship.
Brenda has also worked for the Vermont Housing Finance Agency as Development Director, Brenda was a Ford Foundation Leader for a Changing World 2002, completed the Achieving Excellence in Community Development program at the Kennedy School of Government in 2003, is past President of the National Community Land Trust Network, and serves on the Governors Housing Council of Vermont, the Federal Reserve Bank of Bostons Community Development Committee and the Federal Home Loan Bank of Bostons Affordable Housing Program Advisory Committee.
And I think she donate a TOTAL of $1150 OVER EIGHT YEARS to Sanders. lol
Seriously, you seem to be needlessly disparaging a woman that has been a positive force for social justice.
I think I understand where you are coming from now.
Thank you for making it very obvious.
Have a nice day.
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TomCADem
(17,390 posts)That is the interesting about Bernie Sanders. He can act outraged about conduct that he readily engages in. I wish I could tell you how much money the various folks contributed to the Sanders Institute Foundation, but it is a private foundations that is not subject to campaign disclosure laws. So, Bernie was able to host an event that as you noted had a lot of Bernie supporters present. Many of these supporters had made political contributions to Bernie, and many of them probably contributed to the Sanders Institute to hold events that are designed to showcase Bernie while ignoring the racial and social justice issues in Bernie's own backyard.
Conveniently, none of the contributions to the foundation are disclosable, which Bernie has happy to attack his opponents on when they have run non-profit foundations.
So yeah, I wish I could tell you how much the folks contributed to Bernie's foundation to support Bernie's campaign efforts, but who knows? Bernie himself has said that such activity creates a conflict of interest and is corrupt.
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)Burlington Associates has worked in a diverse array of inner-city neighborhoods, suburban towns, and rural communities, assisting nonprofit developers of affordable housing, municipal governments, state agencies, and community development financial institutions throughout the USA, Puerto Rico, Canada, Australia, Belgium, and England.
Burlington Associates is the premier provider of technical assistance to community land trusts (CLTs) in the United States. Our partners have worked with over 150 CLTs, assisting many in getting started; assisting many others with long-term planning for the stewardship of their portfolios and the sustainability of their operations. The CLT Resource Center, which Burlington Associates added to its website in 2005 and is updated frequently, has become the first place to which practitioners and policymakers often turn when seeking training guides, legal documents, program evaluations, policy research, and other technical information about CLTs. Most of these materials can be downloaded free of charge.
Huh, another excellent speaker. Go figure...
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TomCADem
(17,390 posts)Are we disagreeing here? You said that the event was catering to Bernie Sanders supporters. I agreed with you. Then you are listing the names of real estate developers who are Bernie Sanders supporters. So, okay, I agree with you once again, that Bernie campaign supporters probably really liked the event. I bet that if Trump had a campaign event, Trump supporters would be really happy that event.
https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=John+davis&cycle=&state=VT&zip=&employ=&cand=
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)One of us is needlessly disparaging people that have dedicated a large part of their professional lives to work hard for social justice.
I think people can read these bios for themselves and see that clearly.
So ignore his work for social justice, we should think badly of John Davis for donating a TOTAL of $1000 to Sanders, his Senator, over a 15 year time span?
Seriously?
That's an average donation of $66 per YEAR.
Have a nice day.
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TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...who were excluded? I have no problem with Bernie inviting his campaign supporters to an event on social justice. Go for it.
The problem is that Bernie is ignoring grass roots, social justice leaders in favor of campaign supporters and celebrities, and he has been doing this for decades from the story in the OP to just last year.
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pfeiffer
(280 posts)Because they'll appreciate Mr. Sanders appearing to be a craven opportunist?
Sure thing...begin fighting systemic racism now - right around the time you're running for President of the United States?
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Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)You may make fun of their concerns as "desperation," but they have long tried to get the attention of their elected representative, Bernie Sanders. Whether it is 2006, 2016 or even 2018, Bernie has ignored them, and instead opted to bring in celebrities from out of state to vouch for him. So, I can understand the concern of black leaders in Vermont. I would be desperate too.
Even more to the point, Donald Trump hiring Omarosa Manigault does not mean that he is not racist, and Bernie sharing the stage with folks like Cornel West does not erase his own record with respect to his own constituents. So, kudos to them for speaking out.
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)Like Brenda Torpy, a speaker at that Sanders Institute meeting:
Brenda M. Torpy
Brenda Torpy has 34 years of experience in the affordable housing field, starting with rural community development and affordable housing advocacy in northern Vermont. As the Community and Economic Development Offices first Housing Director for the City of Burlington, Brenda led the development of the Burlington Community Land Trust, now Champlain Housing Trust, and served as the founding Board President. In 1991, she joined the staff as Executive Director.
The Champlain Housing Trust is the nations largest community land trust with over 6,000 members, 90 employees and 2,600 affordable homes in northwest Vermont, including 566 in their shared appreciation homeownership portfolio along with multiple non-profit facilities, retail and commercial tenants. Under Brendas leadership, CHT was selected as the 2008 winner of the UN World Habitat Award and Brenda has travelled extensively as a speaker and to assist start-ups of CLTs both nationally and internationally. CHT does $90 million in development annually, has an operating budget of $10 million and nearly $300 million in assets under its stewardship.
Brenda has also worked for the Vermont Housing Finance Agency as Development Director, Brenda was a Ford Foundation Leader for a Changing World 2002, completed the Achieving Excellence in Community Development program at the Kennedy School of Government in 2003, is past President of the National Community Land Trust Network, and serves on the Governors Housing Council of Vermont, the Federal Reserve Bank of Bostons Community Development Committee and the Federal Home Loan Bank of Bostons Affordable Housing Program Advisory Committee.
AND, wait for this... she gets slammed for donating a TOTAL of $1150 OVER EIGHT YEARS to Sanders, her Senator.
I mean, seriously.
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TomCADem
(17,390 posts)Shouldn't their views also be respected?
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TomCADem
(17,390 posts)On the one hand, you are outraged on behalf of Danny Glover, but what about the leaders of the local NAACP in Vermont who was excluded from the meeting?
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)His anemic, flat-lining numbers = "wE'Re sURGing!!!"
His opponent consistently in a distant first place = "it'S deSPERatioN!!!"
Next week you'll tell us It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank him for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week..."
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murielm99
(30,764 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....to invite anyone from the Vermont NAACP. They were insulted and irate:
'We Find Ourselves Excluded': Racial Justice Leaders Ask Bernie Sanders 'To Get With The Program'
By PETER HIRSCHFELD DEC 3, 2018
In an open letter to Sanders and an institute that now bears his name, more than a dozen racial and social justice advocates from across the state write that theyve been excluded from the national progressive movement that Senator Bernie Sanders is trying to foster.
The flashpoint for this latest conflict between Sanders and prominent Vermonters of color came last week, when the Sanders Institute hosted a three-day gathering in Burlington that convened progressive luminaries from around the world.
Notably absent from the event, according to signatories of the open letter to Sanders, were the racial justice leaders from Vermont who have been working for decades on the civil rights issues the event sought to address.
How do you say that you are a person of the people, how can you be awoken, in the words of Victor Lee Lewis, when you come home to Vermont to talk about justice and institutional oppression and dont invite the very people your (sic) represent? read the letter, which began circulating Saturday.
https://www.vpr.org/post/we-find-ourselves-excluded-racial-justice-leaders-ask-bernie-sanders-get-program#stream/0
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sheshe2
(83,925 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hav
(5,969 posts)Everything is about class and pitting one side against the other. That's why he always struggles when he's getting questioned about issues concerning racism and also other topics. He always goes back to income inequality and only shows in the end that he doesn't have a clue about those issues.
But it also makes one reconsider past quotes. When he said that the Government doesn't care about African Americans, he made a statement that apparently was also based on his own beliefs and actions. He only sees everything in relation to wealth but cannot understand that certain groups are suffering due to other factors that are specific to them. Some statements about someone/something else are sometimes a reflection of your own bias.
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TexasTowelie
(112,442 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatrickforO
(14,592 posts)So which comes first? Social justice or economic justice? Do the two go hand in hand? To imply Bernie is racist seems a bit unfair, to say the least.
He IS pretty focused on economic justice issues, though. Sometimes at the expense of social justice ones. I'll give you that.
But to drive a wedge like this one? From something that happened 14 years ago that was cited in an article from 2016? You're better than that, Tom, and your audience here at DU is better than that.
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getagrip_already
(14,838 posts)Guns and support for the nra.
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)if only everybody except the millionaires and billionaires had more money.
(Hint: It wouldn't.)
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Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Even rich African Americans get followed in highend stores. It doesn't matter that they likely have enough money to buy the store chain, all that matters to the followers is the color of their skin.
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betsuni
(25,634 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brutus smith
(685 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)... crap ...
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TomCADem
(17,390 posts)Just because Donald Trump hired Omarosa Manigault does not mean he is not racist. Likewise, just because Bernie hangs out with Cornel West and Nina Turner does not mean that black civil rights leaders in Vermont are lying about the fact that he has ignored his own constituents when it comes to social justice issues.
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Cha
(297,692 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...more of Bernie's repeated statements that ignore the plight of African Americans are being examined.
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)The BS campaign is failing on so many important levels to connect with AA and POC voters.
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Tarheel_Dem
(31,241 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden