Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBiden seeks to cast Warren as an elitist who believes people lack courage or wisdom
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Joseph R. Biden Jr. escalated the war of words between the two leading Democratic candidates, painting Elizabeth Warren as unwilling to accept criticism of her plans.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/us/politics/joe-biden-elizabeth-warren.html
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Some call it the my way or the highway approach to politics, Mr. Biden, the former vice president, wrote in a Medium post. But its worse than that. Its condescending to the millions of Democrats who have a different view. Its representative of an elitism that working and middle-class people do not share, We know best; you know nothing. If you were only as smart as I am you would agree with me. This is no way to get anything done.
Mr. Biden repeated similar arguments in a fund-raising email and at a fund-raiser in Pittsburgh on Tuesday, escalating tensions between the two top-polling contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination. He did not mention his rival by name, but the message was unmistakably aimed at Ms. Warren, whose Republican critics have for years sought to paint her as an out-of-touch liberal who worked as a Harvard professor
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Nice. By now the Biden tactic should be clear on this yet I dont recall that as a part of a repeating theme.
Great job going back and finding this. Another over the top piece on Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,346 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Some people go back 30 years to post articles. No problem with that amirite?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Please take that as a joke as intended. I dont question your intelligence. It was just low hanging fruit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)I normally use my fingers in a situation like that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)I have met some people with five fingers, one with nine and a half, another with seven, and Im sure others Im not aware of.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)days.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
snowybirdie
(5,232 posts)Let's be Democrats and support the candidate we prefer. Not try and tear down the other guys.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)different non-Democratic primary...and he said it was elitist to believe that people who don't agree with you are not Democrats...old news and you know it. There were numerous posts at the time back in November.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Sometimes life intrudes. But today elitist seems to be a topic and this one was new to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)mean to infer you didn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)it is very different...Biden was talking about if someone didn't agree with you it was elitist to think they are not Democrats...Sanders campaign said Warren was an elitist IE rich etc-'not one of us' kind of attack. And since Sanders is a millionaire that is pretty funny...and Biden was responding to an attack while the Sanders campaign was launching an attack ...quite different ...and she had done nothing to deserve this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,346 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,022 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(153,174 posts)just saying
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)in the Hall of Great Presidents:
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(153,174 posts)something just looks.....off
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)So that the picture did not autoload, I broke the link for the big picture into two parts. Just put them both on the same line, squased next to each other:
https://
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hav
(5,969 posts)It's not a good news day for Bernie?
Can't wait for the next recycled outrage tomorrow.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,082 posts)to do it.
There is no one in the race with a stronger background in protecting working families from our corrupt economic system than Warren, or has crafted a more pro-working family platform than Warren.
This eagerness to attack her and paint her as someone she is not is a deplorable tactic. Especially when none of them believe their own words against her. Its just politics to them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)say he should run in a different primary...who cares...two months ago...tonight is far more interesting as Warren just said Sanders did in fact say a woman couldn't win the presidency...she was awesome...so tough...reminded me of Nancy Pelosi.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:36 PM - Edit history (3)
Bernie, on the other hand, is a Monster for allegedly doing so ..That's fair ...Right ?.. Methinks Bernie has won the debate on the Issues Hence the resort to silly, disingenuous distractions , faux outrage , and the cries of Victimhood . Bernie hates women ..Look at that Document over there What's next ?... Bernie spanked his dog when he shat on his carpet ... Get this take from Joe : "Joe Biden Said Hillary Clinton faced Sexism , But that's Not Going to Happen with Me " .....January 3, 2020 from HuffPost It sounds like Joe is saying that is more difficult for Warren to win because she is a Woman .Don't take the risk of voting for a chick ...Vote for Me ..Why aren't those "objective" journalists at CNN grilling Joe ? .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)I call BS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)she had done nothing to him...not attacked him in any way...so yeah...it is kind of ...not good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)If Joe jumped off a bridge would Bernie? That is what I used to ask my kids...and what my Mom said to me...in fact.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)And Warren said Biden should run in a different primary (said he wasn't a Democrat) at the same time...and Biden said what he said after Warren said this...but at least Biden had the guts to say it and not have a surrogate say it. And then say he was so busy...he couldn't answer for what campaign folks did...Neither Warren or Sanders ever mentioned the other's names...and they didn't use it as a script either...nice try. Hey what you think about Warren confirming that Sanders did say he didn't think a woman could win the presidentcy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)much older articles. Seriously, if you don't like it move on. You seem rather desperate to trash me for posting the article. If we were to change Biden's name to Sanders in the article no one would have a problem with it being two months old.
As for Warren confirming that Sanders and she had a discussion on many topics and the topic came up as to what would happen if the Dems nominated a woman she and he disagreed on if a woman would win or not. It seems to me from her press release she was not happy about her private conversation coming out. She and he have a good relationship and are good friends. I imagine she wasn't offended at all by him disagreeing with her. But then they both have the same objective. Defeat Donald Trump. I think Liz will have a harder time but either one can beat him.
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)basically said she was elitist yesterday and today this appears...and it is old. I would note the date no matter who it was about..however. There is no reason you shouldn't post it...I merely think it feels a bit desperate at this moment given what happened to day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)have no complaints about those. I know, because I looked.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)You think that people don't notice this is posted when Sanders is under fire for calling Warren an Elitist...is it a big coincidence? I had no problem with Biden fighting back when Warren went after him...And Warren can say what she chooses...but this is different. I feel the attack from the Sanders campaign wasn't right. She had done nothing to him...it is not about the issues...so I just think it was a shitty thing for his campaign to do.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden