Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders-Warren fight unnerves progressives
Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) appear to be at war after a longstanding detente, unnerving liberals who hoped to see a progressive win the party's nomination and fear the clash could hurt both presidential candidates.
Tensions between the Sanders and Warren camps were already rising, but they boiled over ahead of a pivotal Tuesday night debate in Des Moines, Iowa, after CNN reported that Sanders told Warren at a meeting in 2018 that a woman could not be elected president.
Sanders vehemently denies the story, which came from four anonymous sources close to Warren. The Warren campaign has not responded to multiple requests for comment.
The allegation rocked the campaigns and came on the heels of a weekend dust-up between the two candidates after a report that Sanders's volunteers had been instructed to tell voters that Warren would be a weak general election candidate because she only appeals to wealthy, white liberals.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/sanders-warren-fight-unnerves-progressives/ar-BBYV1cS?li=BBnb7Kz
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
napi21
(45,806 posts)would tick off a lot of women voters, not to mention the 2 female candidates remaining in the contest. Wonder if that will be one of the questions in tomorrow's debate?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)can be president, but all of a sudden he has changed his tune. This has done nothing but alienate Sanders voters choosing Liz as their second choice. Not a good look. Why would he tell her he didn't think a woman could be president when he asked her to run in 2016. I don't believe it for a minute.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,496 posts)kerfluffle.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)And I welcome it. Amongst other things it will give attendees a chance to defend Hillary's campaign in 2016, and talk about trump, the Russians, and DOJ exoneration.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Quite the contrary.
There are not going to be disaffected supporter in either camp, who will be fleeing to Biden or Pete. If Amy gains some overall benefit from it, all the better.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)We are seeing firsthand why Sanders has accomplished so little despite being in Congress for so long. It's like he can't help but piss off would-be allies. Warren basically had an unsigned non-aggression pact with him and he and his campaign still couldn't help but attack her, knowing that he not only encouraged her not to run this time around, but also telling her that he didn't think a woman could win -- how out-of-touch can you get?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)The timing couldnt be better.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,966 posts)now. This totally fits his tactics. Warren definitely has the character edge here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,836 posts)Sanders and his team started this brouhaha with Warren claiming that her supporters were from the rarified 'elite,' that she would never be able to expand on that base and that he was the logical choice. Meanwhile the Sanders' campaign had serious issues in 2016 when it came to how they treated their own female campaign workers. The complaints of sexism were loud and messy, a problem that the Senator from Vermont ignored, discounted, and then made lame attempts to tamp down. I had read earlier that Bernie had tried to dissuade Liz Warren from running in the 2020 cycle. If Elizabeth Warren claims Sanders said he didn't believe a woman could be elected, I absolutely believe her. It falls into the category of identity politics that Senator Sanders has complained about so vociferously in the past. Because if you're not on Sanders' page then he insists you're not on the right page.
Just another reason why the man is at the bottom of my list for our nominee. My way or the highway doesn't work for me period and it's a really bad trait for any presidential selection.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden