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George II

(67,782 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:03 PM Jan 2020

More on the Sanders / Warren kerfuffle:

Elizabeth Warren Said Bernie Sanders Told Her He Didn’t Believe A Woman Could Win In 2020

DES MOINES — Elizabeth Warren has offered an explosive account of a meeting with Bernie Sanders in which he said he didn’t believe a woman could win in 2020.


"Among the topics that came up was what would happen if Democrats nominated a female candidate," Warren said in the Monday evening statement. "I thought a woman could win; he disagreed. I have no interest in discussing this private meeting any further because Bernie and I have far more in common than our differences on punditry."

Sanders has denied the story, first reported by CNN, as a total fabrication by “staff who weren’t in the room [and] are lying about what happened,” he said in a lengthy statement issued Monday. Three people who heard Warren talk in early 2019 about the meeting said on Monday that their memory of her telling matched CNN’s reporting.


“What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist, and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could,” Sanders said Monday. “Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course! After all Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016.

“It’s sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren’t in the room are lying about what happened.”


The bitterness between the two candidates comes as their long-running campaign truce is showing signs of falling apart. Over the weekend, Politico reported that Sanders’ campaign had given volunteers an organizing script that instructed them to cast Warren as a candidate whose supporters were "highly educated, more affluent people who are going to show up and vote Democratic no matter what" and would bring “no new bases into the Democratic Party.”

The next day, at an event in Iowa City, Sanders denied any prior knowledge of the volunteer script, calling it the product of someone who “[said] things that they shouldn't [have].”

“We have over 500 people on our campaign. People do certain things. I'm sure that on Elizabeth's campaign people do certain things as well,” Sanders said. “But you have heard me for months. I have never said a negative word about Elizabeth Warren, who is a friend of mine. We have differences on issues. That's what a campaign is about. But no one is going to be attacking Elizabeth.”

Warren, asked by reporters Sunday about the talking points, said she was “disappointed” Sanders was “sending his volunteers out to trash [her].”


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rubycramer/elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders-woman-president
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msongs

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2. a woman did win. the vote. she is correct nt
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:15 PM
Jan 2020
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George II

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3. Yes, she actually won twice in 2016, both by millions of votes.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:20 PM
Jan 2020
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crazytown

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4. Warren responded more in sorrow, than combat
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:24 PM
Jan 2020

in both instances.


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George II

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6. Exactly, she's acting professional, staying out of the gutter.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:41 PM
Jan 2020
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NYMinute

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5. After months of dismal poll numbers, Sanders is mining for additional voters
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:28 PM
Jan 2020

Since he is radioactive among the centrists and former Hillary voters, he has now decided that his best chance at finding convert would be Sen. Warren's supporters.

This strategy lacks foresight -- if Sen Warren falters, her supporters would vote for anyone but Sanders after this attack.

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George II

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7. There's just so many of left voters to go around, they're trying to share them.....
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:43 PM
Jan 2020

....the more he pisses them off the less likely they'll vote for him should she falter.

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Bummfuzzle

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14. One of Warrens advantages is a lot of her supporters are HRC supporters. Educated, older women.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:03 AM
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Cha

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8. You two may "have a lot in common" but
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:46 PM
Jan 2020

the "civility" seems to be gone with this he said/she said..



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Will it come up at the debate?


https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=421111

Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources say


The two agreed that if they ultimately faced each other as presidential candidates, they should remain civil and avoid attacking one another, so as not to hurt the progressive movement.

Ooops.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-meeting/index.html

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287420981#post5
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George II

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10. This is funny: "...it's a recent pattern of Warren attacking the Dem front-runner." Yeah but....
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:34 AM
Jan 2020

....Sanders is NOT the "Dem front-runner". Biden is ahead in all four early states and nationally.

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Cha

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11. In their
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:43 AM
Jan 2020

dreams.

This is but one example of why they're not trust worthy.

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question everything

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12. I think that what he means is: no one can mean except
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:50 AM
Jan 2020

Me,me,me

Not a team player. Did not even help his son. I don’t know: has he ever campaigned for anyone beside himself? Ever transferred money from his stash to help anyone else?

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Gothmog

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13. NEW statement from Elizabeth Warren on her meeting with Bernie Sanders:
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 01:50 AM
Jan 2020
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