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MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:10 PM Jan 2020

It's a little bit funny - this feeling inside...

All of this ugliness among Democrats, and at a funny time for it. What is about to happen? The Iowa caucuses? That's it? If this is where it is going, this early in the primary season, how bad is it going to get when something that really matters approaches? Like say, Super Tuesday?

What's actually going to happen is that four candidates will each get a share of Iowa's paltry few delegates to the convention. Then, the race moves on.

It's way too early for this level of infighting among the Democratic candidates. Way too early. Right now, it looks like a bunch of people in funny clothes beating each other over the head with rubber chickens and slap sticks.

It's a bad look. And guess who's staying completely out of this artificial fray? Joe Biden.

But, hey, what do I know? Maybe the entire primary season hangs on what a bunch of white folks in Iowa do in their caucus meetings?

"You're Schmoopy!" "No, You're Schmoopy."

You think?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
1. I have to run an errand right now.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jan 2020

I'll check back in in an hour. Meanwhile, please proceed...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pwb

(11,287 posts)
2. This will all pass and we will unite to clobber Trump.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:17 PM
Jan 2020

Hope.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,022 posts)
3. I haven't seen Biden being responsible for any of "this ugliness" and infighting. I wish the others
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jan 2020

would stop it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
9. Exactly right, and I think he won't play in that pool at all.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jan 2020

He doesn't have to, either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
4. Elton John by Elton John
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jan 2020

You've got the album right MM, but no the song

Take me to the pilot for control
Take me to the pilot of your soul

Take me to the pilot
Lead me to the chamber
Take me to the pilot
I am not a danger


That's what's playing now

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. I've been saying similar for weeks, not as eloquently. "Four candidates will each get a share of...
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jan 2020

...Iowa's paltry few delegates"

And then we'll all zero in on New Hampshire, where an even paltrier few delegates will be chosen.

After all is said and done, none of the four candidates will have more than about two or three more delegates than any of the other three.

Iowa will be split 11-11-10-9, New Hampshire will be split 7-6-6-5. WOOHOO!! Millions of dollars for about 1.5% of the delegates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
7. Iowas is an expectations gave, not about delegate numbers.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:49 PM
Jan 2020

Nate Silver's model suggests the result will have a huge influence on the final outcome. You may disagree, there is every sign the candidates do not.If Biden wins Iowa, he has the nomination inn his pocket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
10. Precisely.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:21 PM
Jan 2020

The Iowa/New Hampshire thing is history. With so many delegates at stake in the Super Tuesday races, they simply do not matter in this election. Add to that the fact that there are four "front-runners" and it's even more hilarious.

It's not going to affect fundraising capability for Biden, Sanders, or Warren at all, nor will it affect how people vote in the Super Tuesday states. All if this is much ado about nothing.

Except that it's showing the true faces of some of the candidates, and there's egg on some of those faces, I think.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
6. I am so glad that Biden
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jan 2020

hasn't resorted to the attack style politics. It is easy to get sucked in. When someone attacks you, your first impulse is to strike back, but that is rarely effective and the conversation devolves rapidly. Perhaps Joe's many years of experience in politics has taught him this. Whatever the reason, it does tend to elevate him a bit among the candidates, well a lot for me. I tend to turn off and tune out as soon as the scripted political attacks begin. Its not only wrong, but it shows poor political judgment.

That said, Biden has shown that he can be an effective attack dog against the opposition party. I don't think Trump stands a chance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
8. "He stole it. It's the Biden Plan"
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:54 PM
Jan 2020

Biden on Buttigieg's 'Medicare for All Who Want It'.

It died because Pete let it die.

"It's double talk. She's making it up"
Biden on Warren's m4A costings.

It died because Elizabeth let it die.


Warren responded to a question about the Sanders campaign trashing her with dignity, more in sorrow than combat.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hekate

(90,769 posts)
11. I just juried one of those squabbles. Gaaaah.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jan 2020

I know you are but what am I? Am so! Am not!

Then I browsed into Primaries and saw the whole damn thread.

Bejayzus, people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
12. It's boring, and completely non-productive of anything.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:36 PM
Jan 2020

I guess some people are such fans of one candidate or the other that they feel the need to jump on everyone who isn't.

I won't play that game here. Someone is going to end up being the party's nominee. When that finally happens, I'll know who I'll be voting for in the general election. Until then, primary voters will be deciding who it will be. I get one vote in that. So, I'm not deeply invested in the primary races.

I'm in this forum to point that out from time to time.

If we get so wrapped up around one candidate, we run the risk of convincing ourselves that the others are terrible choices. Then, when someone other than our favorite ends up as the nominee, we have all that history of trashing that person. It's not a good thing in any way to get that much committed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
13. Well, we do have to
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jan 2020

narrow the field down. What is ridiculous is that we all agree on so much of the greater principles. The only value I see in a large field is that Trump doesn't know who to fire at to distract from impeachment. Might not hurt to wait a while longer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
14. No, WE don't have to do that. The primary voters in 50 states will do
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jan 2020

that just fine. I get one vote in Minnesota on March 3. That's what I can do: cast my one vote.

Infighting is not in any way worthwhile.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
16. I thought I said
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:59 PM
Jan 2020

that. Perhaps adding "eventually" would have helped. However, I really do hope there is a clear choice before the convention because I don't think we will benefit from a repeat of the last one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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