surrogates to call her a liar. That's not okay. I'd be a little disappointed if she'd shaken his hand. She rescued him, not just extricated herself from this nasty interaction, with her gracious "friends" comment.

Warren is not the victim here and this is not a good look for her at all.

the people who were there.

Btw, have you read Sanders' editorial board interview? Here's a quick bit that's pretty typical of Sanders' approach to truth, and perhaps view of reality. He repeatedly said he and they lived in different worlds, and that was the answer they seemed to be able to agree with most.

It’s magic unicorn nonsense.

R’s don’t magically lose senate seats in red states due to Bernie’s airplane travel.

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Which means her “I am not here to fight with Bernie” wasn’t true.

I do it all the time.

Being lied on. Please. She did the right thing here!

For being angry. But she should have said her true feelings on the stage rather than after.

Say what you actually believe and feel, good or bad.

She should say on stage he made the remark and she was offended.

Don’t act like it’s ok, but get into a scrap afterwards.

About defeating an incumbent GOP in an election.

I'm sure that wasn't the first time in her life that some dude that wasn't listening to her felt the need to "correct" her.

It titled that whole exchange even further in her direction.

Just said we need to nominate a candidate who unifies the Party ...And proceeds to refuse to shake Bernie's Hand- offending millions of Bernie's supporters in the Process ... The conversation in question took place in 2018 ...She warmly embraced Bernie on Debate stage this past summer ...Talk about a delayed reaction of Offense .... She knows Bernie had nothing to do with that circular …

while some of the more ‘spirited’ of Sanders supporters are targeting her viciously. After some of the overthetop vitriol I saw aimed at her on other Dem pages it wouldn’t surprise me if there were death threats and stalking involved. There is a faction of his supporters that he has no control over. They are the ones who voted for Trump. They are the ones who tend to obsess. We saw that with the Seth Rich story, for example.

Maybe she needs for him to step up....even if it’s just as a friend. Her expression looks like she is genuinely hurt. We really don’t know.

He has full control over. His hired surrogates. And they are the worst of all. Turner. Sarandon. Etc.

She needs to apologize and put it behind her, before it backfires further. If she wins the nomination she's going to need Bernie's supporters eventually, and this isn't the way to go about it. Let's not repeat the mistakes of 2016.

Mistakes aren’t all on one side.

she had just had with Bernie?

She's being the adult in the situation here.

Why does Warren owe an apology for this?

You left out this part:

who she should apologize? Not me.

I think they should both stop talking about it. Sanders doesn’t bring it up. Warren was and is now asking people to let it go. I agree she should. Sanders already had.

Why does she need to apologize for a staffer's opinion on something? Sanders hasn't nor doesn't apologize for Sirota's false tweets nor Nina Turner's genuinely offensive attacks on the Democratic Party. Why is the standard different for Warren?

quick death. But Twitter, reality tv news and it seems DU won’t let it go.

I’m done though.

I need to start paying more attention to my previous tag line! Mark Twain was so right!

some of your stuff. I'm sorry you are so angry and stuff but just drop it now. It's getting kind of stupid.

It seems that you're the one who's angry here.

As Bernie said, "Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million."

Our 2016 candidate was the overwhelming choice of Democrats for the nomination, and she got more votes than anyone not named Obama.

The Oval Office was stolen from our candidate by russian interference, Comey, and voter suppression of Democrats in three key states where she lost by a sliver.

What "mistakes" did "we" make in 2016 that you are seeing "repeated?"

with this. Dems are just shooting themselves in the foot.

I think people need to brace for another Trump term and the collapse of America.

I have no problem with her defending herself.

And turn the other cheek AFTER being called a liar? We don't think so and Bernie got rightfully exposed tonight as we have seen this type of attitude from Bernie, up close and personal. Which is why he lost our support after the Democratic Presidential Primary in Michigan - never to regain it UNLESS he is the nominee. Then we will vote to really remove Drump and that's it.

he pissed her off in the debate.

Link to tweet

For me it was very clear that Sanders is being disengeous and his finger pointing even at the end is offensive.

This whole exchange showed me that my opinion of Sanders is correct. I respect Elizabeth Warren even more than I did before tonight.

(Poor Steyer - he walked in and wasn’t sure what to do)

The finger pointing blew it.. Biden's gotten it and now Elizabeth.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

What's your point?

Jesus. I can't believe this is what people have to sink to just because they don't like Sanders.

Since clearly you have established that finger pointing is the work of the devil, who is receiving the wrath of Biden?

I fully realize why you would want to avoid addressing the issue of Biden's horrible finger pointing, but, really, isn't finger pointing disqualifying?

conversation by yourself

I mean, you gave proof of it in the picture you posted. Who was he pointing at in that picture?
The man clearly has a problem:

That last one looks like he's aiming a rifle at someone.

Go figure, or is that go finger? .

p.s. next time photoshop your guy out so you can attack BS without the distraction of having your guy doing the exact same thing in the photo.

So there's that.

Are you still supporting Warren after this?

currently polling better in swing states and ultimately beating Trump is my primary concern.

Considering he is LYING on her.

His hand. He probably had to explain something

over-interpreted? I've watched it several times, and it seems as if it could be a matter of awkward timing - he reached out to shake her hand while she was in the middle of gesturing with both of her hands.

Maybe. Maybe not.

Just offering an alternative analysis.

At the very end, it rather looks like Bernie was not going to shake Steyer's hand.

Clearly she chose not to shake hands. Something upset her enough.....

Link to tweet

and she pushed it away.

... she exaggerated her heritage on her university application.
... exaggerated her father being a 'janitor' (really a maintenance man).

I have never known Bernie to lie about anything.
Bernie is on record over and over again for years and years that he thinks a woman can win.

I still don't think Warren is lying, but I do think she is exaggerating what Bernie really said.

Then you list examples of her exaggerating that are right-wing talking points?

...said she shouldn’t be calling their father a janitor when he was a maintenance man.

I have managed to miss this till now.

a janitor...emotional too and they should smile more often...and listen to men folk who are always right-just ask some of them. And always apologize even if it is not their fault ...

Like the "how are you going to pay for it" RWTP?

"Four years ago, I was in a national TV debate and the moderator said, Senator Sanders, what do you consider to be a major foreign policy and national security crisis. ... But I responded and I said that the major national security crisis we face is climate change. And the moderator actually laughed."

Never happened. There are videos. Anderson Cooper didn't laugh. Nobody laughed.

Others are him saying ordinary Democratic policies were considered radical until he "introduced" it: higher minimum wage, universal health care, higher taxes for corporations and the rich, more regulations, environmental controls, gun control, etc. etc. etc.

into research mode to understand his answer better and found out how accurate it was. There was 24 hour news on tv and Twitter all condescending and mocking. I don’t care if it wasn’t Cooper at that moment.

Sanders and Warren have too much going for them both and too much synergy for reality tv gossip politics to win.

and shake his hand. It's a political race for gawd sake.

I still remember after the Texas gubernatorial race debate and Ann Richards opponent refused to shake her hand and I think it cost him the election as Texans found his behavior unacceptable. Ann went on to win narrowly.

Of course the political sphere has changed drastically. I never thought Orange could outlive his grab em by the *** comment. I didn't think Americans could stomach such crass language; I was so wrong.

... Yes.

She is now my second choice.

She's been the adult in this whole thing.

I can imagine what she was feeling.

I guess she should smile more?

She repeats it after Bernie acts as if he doesn't hear her.

CNN has the tech to pick up what was spoken.