Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhat Warren and Sanders Said to Each Other
New York Times: People familiar with the exchange said Ms. Warren walked over and told Mr. Sanders that she was concerned that, during the debate, he had mischaracterized a conversation they had in 2018 about whether a woman could win the presidency. She has accused him of saying that a woman could not; he has denied that remark.
Appearing frustrated, Mr. Sanders asked to discuss the matter at a different time, said the people, who insisted on anonymity to discuss a sensitive, private conversation. He pointed his finger toward her, then back at himself, before turning and walking away.
https://politicalwire.com/2020/01/15/what-warren-and-sanders-said-to-each-other/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pfeiffer
(280 posts)Who cares? Elizabeth knows Bernie said it. (Too bad Bernie embarrassed himself on national television with his ridiculous denial.)
Elizabeth won this issue - with both hands tied behind her back.
ALSO...I thought Amy did FANTASTIC last nite.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)the time is just right.
It's not just about her taking on Trump, but that's how a President should act.
I miss Harris, but now it's either Amy or Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)ESPECIALLY Elizabeth, who is, perhaps, the most competent woman to ever run for President and who could easily win the presidency, in part, because of her strong backbone and tenacity. (To imply otherwise seems a bit sexist to me.)
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mike Nelson
(9,971 posts)... it looked like.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,384 posts)You don't do that when you're in the wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,665 posts)doing that my entire life. Im not saying Warren was wrong. But I also know from experience that exchanges like that one often result from what ended up being miscommunications involving assumptions and perceived meanings that were not intended.
The account of the exchange does fit exactly what I perceived in watching it. Warren made her point effectively in the debate. Alls good.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(15,665 posts)Jane?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)Sanders was not IMHO. It is not about whether women can win or not...hell I posted stuff like that...it is about telling the truth.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,384 posts)Last night he flat out denied going anywhere near there. I think thats what ticked her off. She greeted him cordially at the beginning of the evening.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,665 posts)...
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BeyondGeography
(39,384 posts)No skin off mine either.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,665 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)And, they both are for tariffs, limited trade, and treating poor foreign workers like scabs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Reviving the TPP, with as few as alterations as possible.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)a chance to improve their lot in life because "Americans First?"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)Former Vice President Joe Biden during Wednesday nights Democratic debate in Detroit that he would renegotiate the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a trade deal that he pushed for in the Obama administration.
In 2015, Biden called the deal a comprehensive, high-standard trade agreement." However, on Wednesday, the ex-veep said: I would not rejoin TPP as it was initially put forward.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bummfuzzle
(154 posts)lets discuss this later, comment.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,665 posts)didnt and dont see what you did. And Im leaning toward Warren as my candidate of choice ... and have been for quite some time.
More is being made of this than what it is.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,774 posts)more going on than that snip from the nyt..
Wonder what that "pointed his finger back at himself" was all about?
Thanks George..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LeftTurn3623
(628 posts)he should wave her off
If she doesn't have the guts to confront him on the stage then dont leak false stories
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Raven123
(4,878 posts)I am not a happy Dem. Voter. I know the candidates are stressed, tired and earnestly trying to gain an edge, but these arguments seem petty.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)think Warren told the truth.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)It goes to character. In addition to the comments at the meeting, there's the matter of the "scripts" too, and their no-attack pact.
I think this could be fixed. But the clock is ticking.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
More bullshit leaked to the media by "people familiar". So helpful.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)21 days before the Iowa Caucus ...Are we to believe that she suddenly became offended for a conversation that took place in 2018 ? ..Why was Warren not offended when she was riding high in the polls- 6 months age ? . Bernie urged Warren to run for President in 2015 - because he believed a woman could not get elected President of the United States ?...A Mysoginist that was willing to set aside his own ambitions so a women could run for President ? None of this makes any sense
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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getagrip_already
(14,867 posts)One of them is lying. I don't think that's the kind of thing liz would blatantly lie about. I do believe it is something someone would lie about if they in fact said it. Just human nature that it's more likely it was said and lied about than it was lied about and never said.
But do we really need someone who would lie in the wh? Don't we have enough change, chaos, disruption and lies to last us a lifetime?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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GumboYaYa
(5,954 posts)with this whole mess. She lost my support and I can't see myself voting for her in the primary now. If this was an issue with Bernie it should have been raised months ago. To me it seems like an opportunistic political attack based on the fact that she is slipping in the polls and Iowa is approaching fast. We don't need that this year.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided