didn't seem to be anything negative about him. And no indication of any past disputes with Sanders, either. If they'd had such disputes, I wouldn't have posted about this article.

If Shumlin had succeeded, he would have been the most popular politician in Vermont by a large margin. I still wonder about Senator Sanders' rationale, given how much a stink he makes over concepts like Single Payer.

issue" it still would have had a major effect on his constituents.

He did nothing.

from the federal government. Senator Sanders didn't join them.

With no money coming from the Feds, Shumlin tried other routes, including a tax, all that dragged down his once sky high favorability.

And sanders may have felt that the state should use own funds for such a project.

If single payer is implemented nationwide, money will need to go to small states that can not raise billion dollar sums on their own for such a purpose, that was essentially the argument of Shumlin and the two other national Reps. Vermont would be a test case to iron out the bugs with single payer, and all Shumlin was asking was for Senator Sanders to help secure federal money to go along with what Vermont could put up. Senator Sanders refused to help.

My issue is the hypocrisy, Senator Sanders talks about single payer systems on the stomp, but he had a chance to aid an excellent test case effort in his own home state and he took a pass while the other two federal people tried to help out.

hoards of people to act, but he can’t even get key people in his home state to cooperate. It’s funny to see the head scratching about what Bernie could have done. The answer is so obvious.

Yet he makes such a big stink about full coverage health insurance.

The other US Senator tried to help, as did the sole US Congressman, but they got zero help from Bernie. Federal money to jump start the program WAS NOT a state issue, Vermont simply did not have a billion dollars.

Yet the are a representative to their State, the one they were elected to, as a Democrat in the primary then switched to an Independent.

He spends far more time in other states than he does his own.

Vermont didn't have the population numbers to make single payer viable. Doesn't have anything to do with Bernie.

Small states are better for that very reason. Vermont needed a billion dollars (around that amount) to jump start it's program, two of the three national representatives from the state worked to get the money, they got no help from the third, the very person who claims he can somehow bring a single payer style system to a broad and divided country.

have to increase taxes too much. Same thing happened in California and Colorado when they tried.

it would not have to increase taxes by very mush. That is why the money that Shumlin needed Senator Sanders to help get was so critical.

One problem that I see with health insurance is that people are not going to change their habits. Earlier today I was out and about, the only other people that I saw that had appropriate weight was two young people that were working after school at a car wash, my guess is both were about 16-17 years old. Everywhere else I ran into overweight people, one woman that I saw in a skin and nail salon was beyond morbidly obese, it was sad. I don't notice as many people smoking as I used to, so that is a good trend, but the weight control and physical activity aspects of good health appear to be a losing battle, at least in my part of Florida.

for their state’s citizens from California and New York.

We need some kind of way to incentivize healthy lifestyles. But what government is going to take that on.

We have a lot to do to make healthcare affordable here. Hope someone comes up with answer because everyone deserves coverage.

the healthiest and most physically fit and practice lifestyles that help maintain their weight control. So, for several reasons, they will have to shoulder more of a load in any national or even regional system. I believe what we need is a state of mind change, politicians, especially republicans fail to see that our greatest national security threat is the physical condition and state of mind of many Americans. I met a MAGAT while out today, nice enough person, but he looked poorer that a church mouse and appeared to be living out of his truck, I really didn't know what to say to that person, his jingoism is a big part of his condition in life, but he didn't seem to be overtly hateful.

Improving that would change a lot of things.

in blue and purple states, even near purple states, that is why republicans itch so much to control education.

The numbers they came up with to implement the plan were exorbitant and it failed.

We have seen it first hand.

Fully corroborated

That's gotta smart!

I wonder if we'll see more like this.

as a Vermonter, I do not want to see Bernie win the primaries... it would not be good

Some examples:

as Mayor, you will see a centralist.

How many of those 125 posts have been about trashing Bernie?

Why do you think that is trashing Sanders? He gave Burlington what they wanted in a mayor. Worked well with the business community, from what I read.

and has represented Vermont well... that does not mean he would make a good President... I will vote for him if he is our nominee but it would not be the best choice

Snakes are wonderful creatures. Even venomous ones, like rattlesnakes, keep the rodent population down, which is good for humans.

If those dummies think they can insult the governor by comparing him to a snake, they show their own ignorance.

In some unsettling ways.



Very different when Julian Castro did this first.

That he’s doing it to Warren just shows how shallow and superficial his purity standards are.

Bernie cannot be the nominee!

I had no idea, but it sure resonates with everything else I've seen about Bernie. And Howard Dean makes a whole lot more sense than Bernie ever did.

The more articles you’ll see like this.

It’s always interesting to watch what they attack. It tells you where they feel the most vulnerable. I have noticed that Bernie’s high sense of ethics is especially troublesome.

Because they are "afraid of ethics."

Especially ironic when considering this:

I already gave you one. Maybe when you finish your college education you'll get it. I do this for a living and I'm not doing it for free, so please stop posting material that shows your lack of understanding--in this case, why we deal in gray instead of black and white.

There is a ton of information out there about sanders. The Clinton campaign had a very well written memo on sanders backed by a 1000 pages of supporting material that was not needed because sanders was eliminated mathematical by the results of the Super Tuesday races The GOP has a even larger file of oppo on sanders

What is he? St. Francis of Assisi?

Bernie is a politician like others running and his past must be exposed thoroughly.

What Bernie supposedly said in their conversation.

Give me the part where he back stabs someone or cheats or whatever. Where's the dirty part? This is empty propoganda

...when fighting trump for the Presidency, I would certainly hope so...

...it's not going to be a cake-walk to the Oval Office...no one will play more dirty than trump and the pukes...

...I'm hoping we can play dirty enough...

...rather than trying to create a "ram it down their throats coalition starting with progressives...."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=426816

...enjoy yourself...

...you'll only have yourself to blame...

...

....Take care of that tummy...

....Bernie not living up to your standards of 'KICKING ASS' and forming that "jam-it-down-your-throat" coalition might be terribly distressful....

....In any case, common sense would lead one to the realization that those standards might be counter-productive to encourage from any candidate running on the ticket of a party that supports and respects women...

... ...

Trump will be humiliated, undercut, and burned by the acid of truth!
I can't see any of the other candidates taking down this clown like an un-leashed Sanders.
Truth.

He does fight in any which way indeed.

Link to tweet

I saw a ton of evidence of sanders playing dirty at the national convention

Uh huh.

And that makes sense to some people.

And how would one Hillarize" Warren? How has the sanders campaign even tried to do that? They haven't linked he to Wall Street. Warren didn't vote for the crime bill. Warren, at least in theory, isn't' against Medicare for All. She isn't' calling what Sanders wants to do "Pie in the sky" and "Free ponies". Sanders wanted Warren to run against Clinton in 2016.

Do you guys ever read these things and think "Wow, this is so disconnected from reality"?

Interesting.

I remember Democratic loyalists embracing David Brock without question.

Thx.

What's a "Democratic loyalist?"

If you weren't nervous, you could easily give me an example of one of those that you were criticizing that 'supported David Brock."

events, this is as true as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west.

shady company. His friends are more of the issue.