I think it was Amy who told a story of how McCain helped her a lot when she first was elected to the Senate.

She is a moderate. That’s who she is.

In person, she is very charming.

Analysis of Klobuchar's record in the senate places her solidly in the middle of the liberal cluster of blue dots to the left on the govtrackus.com graph, FAR from the cluster of red dots to the right. You can see she's rated high on leadership within that group, indicating strong standing among her colleagues, which is reflected in her really outstanding record of getting legislation passed.

Stopping the cursor on any dot will identify the senator.

Ideology–Leadership Chart
Klobuchar is shown as a purple triangle ▲ in our ideology-leadership chart below. Each dot is a member of the Senate positioned according to our liberal–conservative ideology score (left to right) and our leadership score (leaders are toward the top).

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/amy_klobuchar/412242

That chart is so cool !

Love that gray bullet on the lower left.

and you know that.

Nice try, but it doesn't work with knowledgable posters.

It's never wise to assume that other people "know" exactly what vague or idiosyncratic assumptions one is making in an attempt to frame an unsupported assertion as a logical argument.

Knowledgeable posters generally examine and rely on all the data from reliable and objective sources in making their arguments. It is problematic when someone accepts only bias confirming information from a reliable source and rejects the rest.

I would never assume that anyone "knows that". Some posters obviously don't.

Hi Cher!

and, I believe, he gave her some kind of nod or wink right before he cast his vote that saved the ACA.

I notice she never mentions her old pal Lindsey any more but once upon a time she'd bring both McCain & Graham up when she was patting herself on the back for "reaching across the aisle".

There are reasons she's never been all that popular with the Wellstone wing of the DFL.

Amy reminds me of the very strident over achievers I taught long ago in high school. The other kids did not like them very much, I put my faith in kids too!

Think Reese Witherspoon's character (Tracy Flick?) in "Election".

It was used on Hillary.

"Just not THAT woman....." is a very real thing, and as a Warren supporter you should recognize it.

almost cheated out of her win -- and who won in the end.

as a 25 year teacher vet that might be the best explanation

Funny how being an "over achiever" seems to be a problem only for women.

The thread is about Amy, and I posted an opinion about her. I know plenty of men I would say the same thing about.

But I never see such criticisms made of men.

Such things as ambition, aggressiveness, over-preparedness are treated as valuable attributes in men but women who display the same qualities are looked at with suspicion and called out as "annoying" and worse.

An employer who objects to aggressiveness in women but whose positions require this trait places women in an intolerable and impermissible Catch-22: out of a job if they behave aggressively and out of a job if they do not.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/490/228

I know first hand and very personally about this- "An employer who objects to aggressiveness in women but whose positions require this trait places women in an intolerable and impermissible Catch-22: out of a job if they behave aggressively and out of a job if they do not."

I was involved in a three year lawsuit against the Goodwill, with two other women dealing with this exact issue. That said, I stand by my opinion of Amy.

Caught my eye because I don’t believe I’ve ever seen an adult brag about their grades in school...

I’ve got no problem with an “overachiever” as president. What a difference that would be.

Really enjoyed your input.

The men who were Rhodes Scholars? The senators? The vice- president?

Or is it just Klobuchar who strikes you that way? Interesting.

I love Amy. I campaigned for Paul Wellstone and have voted for Amy every election she has run in.

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and will in November if she is the nominee. Even as much as I dislike her and her inablity to take a progressive position on anything, she is still better than a Republican. But, make no mistake, she is the status quo candidate and will never, never do anything that might rock the boat even a little bit. Don't expect any meaningful change if she is elected and don't be surprised when she moves the party even further to the right.

I have been an activist in many areas and understand that progress occurs at a slow and steady pace. What makes me sad is watching everything that I have fought so hard for in my life time (I'm 76 years old) is being destroyed by the tRump administration. My main concern is to get them out of the White House. Rocking the boat is the least of my concerns. I want tRump gone. Period.

good that Minnesotans do.

Depends on what she's being 'careful' and 'savvy' about.

....She bugs me too. Something like the feelings I get from old-style Republicans.

not even close

thank you

Pointed her to McCain as a person to help navigate the Senate when she first arrived. The became friends over time. Reid put her on Rules very early and used he as one of his main Republican Whisperers.

It should be noted that when one of those inane questions "What Broke Your Heart" her response was Lindsey Graham.

But Biden’s suggesting he would consider a Republican as a running mate does not?

I don’t get it. I assume they are sending the same message, they they have worked with and can work with everyone.

The message I get is that supporting either one of them will probably result in more incrementalism and 'go along to get along,' as if the last 40 years hasn't been enough of that yet. It also sends a clear message to people working for climate change initiatives, universal healthcare and any number of other urgent issues that if either of them is the nominee that they needn't get out and vote.

God help me I will support the eventual nominee and urge everyone I know to do the same but until that person is chosen I will continue to point out the consequences of supporting status quo, and there are many. Democrats need to stop worrying about rightwing garbage like 'how will we afford it,' 'the party has moved too far left' and similar bullshit being served up by bots and trolls.

We know what's right. Now let's just do it. We may never get another chance, literally.

I'd love to see her on the ticket. She's a person who gets things accomplished.

I like Biden but it's strange seeing a Biden supporter being somehow surprised or maybe even questioning a friendship with McCain when Biden and McCain share probably one of the most well-known bipartisan friendships that lasted over decades. And I don't have a problem with that because friendships don't mean you absorb their views and secondly, you can still be a friend with someone who disagrees with you politically.