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Bernie believes that racism is a reaction to economic anxiety. This lame excuse ignores rich Trump. (Original Post) Skya Rhen Jan 2020 OP
when you only have a hammer.... mopinko Jan 2020 #1
Yep...everything is a nail. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #2
So very true! Maru Kitteh Jan 2020 #17
Great thread and we saw this in action with women/abortion issue with Heath Mello and Tom Perriello. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #3
Bernie Sanders Thinks He Gets It. MineralMan Jan 2020 #4
+1. He sure got it backwards. dalton99a Jan 2020 #20
So it seems to me. MineralMan Jan 2020 #21
He's not saying racism is ONLY a response to economic anxiety. Ron Green Jan 2020 #5
And lack of orgasms causes cancer. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #6
If economic equity doesn't include active anti-racism work, it's unsustainable. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2020 #7
Wasn't the economy in pretty good shape for whites in the 60s when he felt a need to march lunasun Jan 2020 #8
So you have Biden folk saying Sanders is racist, Sanders folk saying Biden is racist... thesquanderer Jan 2020 #9
He's been saying that for years. nt Kahuna7 Jan 2020 #10
I suspect he cant admit he doesn't "get it" after so many years gone by. oasis Jan 2020 #22
Also, what about the wealthy white slave/plantation owners - did they have economic anxiety Skya Rhen Jan 2020 #11
It's a basic tenet of old-fashioned socialism.... Happy Hoosier Jan 2020 #12
Good on Soledad! Cha Jan 2020 #13
Not qualified to be POTUS. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #14
That is a very RW/Republican View TomCADem Jan 2020 #15
Video of Obama saying the same thing Bernie Sanders did Eric J in MN Jan 2020 #16
To Sanders, univeralist, egalitarian solutions imposed on everyone Hortensis Jan 2020 #18
No he does not. Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #19
 

mopinko

(70,197 posts)
1. when you only have a hammer....
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:46 PM
Jan 2020

see also- sexism

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Demsrule86

(68,637 posts)
2. Yep...everything is a nail.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jan 2020
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Demsrule86

(68,637 posts)
3. Great thread and we saw this in action with women/abortion issue with Heath Mello and Tom Perriello.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jan 2020

Sanders endorsed and campaigned for both despite their history of anti-choice votes.

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MineralMan

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4. Bernie Sanders Thinks He Gets It.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:56 PM
Jan 2020

He's sure he gets it. When it comes to certain groups, though, they're equally sure he doesn't get it at all. Bernie thinks racism has an economic cause. He is wrong about that. For people of color, racism is the cause of their economic problems and many other problems, as well.

Bernie can't see it. He does't believe it.

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dalton99a

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20. +1. He sure got it backwards.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 01:15 PM
Jan 2020
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MineralMan

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21. So it seems to me.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 01:19 PM
Jan 2020
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Ron Green

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5. He's not saying racism is ONLY a response to economic anxiety.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:57 PM
Jan 2020

But it’s certainly true that baked-in racism (which is still there in our culture and our institutions) is a convenient and powerful handle by which a demagogue like Trump can get fearful and ignorant white people to vote against whatever charitable instincts they may possess.

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The Valley Below

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6. And lack of orgasms causes cancer.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:59 PM
Jan 2020
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WhiskeyGrinder

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7. If economic equity doesn't include active anti-racism work, it's unsustainable.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:06 PM
Jan 2020

Bernie's inability to be clear about intersectional oppression is frustrating.

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lunasun

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8. Wasn't the economy in pretty good shape for whites in the 60s when he felt a need to march
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jan 2020

against racism ? Someone older here can answer that
but racism is not new with the latest recession I m old enough I can tell you that !

Also ...some people are unhappy so = understandable how they treat others +that explains the appeal ?
And as someone pointed out what about rich racists???
The faces in that room 👀

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thesquanderer

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9. So you have Biden folk saying Sanders is racist, Sanders folk saying Biden is racist...
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:48 PM
Jan 2020

Here's the post on Biden being racist: https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287430847

My feeling is that, even if they don't always express their thoughts perfectly, none of our candidates are truly racist, none of our candidates are going to be instituting racist policies. Biden and Sanders would both promote good social policy. This is all divisive nonsense.
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Kahuna7

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10. He's been saying that for years. nt
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:10 PM
Jan 2020
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oasis

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22. I suspect he cant admit he doesn't "get it" after so many years gone by.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 11:46 PM
Jan 2020
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Skya Rhen

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11. Also, what about the wealthy white slave/plantation owners - did they have economic anxiety
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jan 2020

that caused their racism?

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Happy Hoosier

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12. It's a basic tenet of old-fashioned socialism....
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:01 PM
Jan 2020

...that racism and sexism and etc. are the tools used in class warfare by the upper classes to work the working classes against each other. It's not completely wrong, but it is ridiculously simplistic. It ignores how bigotry is embedded in culture and identity. Most modern socialist thinkers have moved way beyond this kind of simplicity. But not Sen. Sanders it seems. And that concerns me greatly. He seems unable to synthesize new information and adjust his model of how the world works to the data.

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Cha

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13. Good on Soledad!
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:44 PM
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NurseJackie

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14. Not qualified to be POTUS.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:07 PM
Jan 2020

Amazing.

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TomCADem

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15. That is a very RW/Republican View
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 04:11 AM
Jan 2020

Republicans always dismiss racism as a problem, argue that talking about it is "identity politics," and argue that juicing the economy will take of any problems associated with racism.

Sadly, this is Bernie's view as well. However, you can't have economic justice without social justice, otherwise the rich will just scapegoat minorities and immigrants.

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Eric J in MN

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16. Video of Obama saying the same thing Bernie Sanders did
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 07:06 AM
Jan 2020
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Hortensis

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18. To Sanders, univeralist, egalitarian solutions imposed on everyone
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 08:19 AM
Jan 2020

are the only way racism can be successfully addressed, actually eliminated as it becomes impossible. And all other big problems of inequality, socially engineered mostly out of existence.

The enormous advances in equality that humanity has been making around the planet (ALL outside, not inside, the dreadfully failed socialist states of the 20th century) have not changed his mind.

Only a socioeconomic system whose structure makes it impossible for people to discriminate or exercise greed can succeed and thus is a moral imperative. Sanders idealistically sees equalizing the condition and opportunities of people in societies as ultimately the way to permanently improve the people themselves. And he believes democratic socialism is the start.

(Note, that is NOT the social democracy of some nations in Europe, which prioritizes individual rights and freedoms and includes capitalism.)

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Tom Rinaldo

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19. No he does not.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 09:23 AM
Jan 2020

He does believe that economic anxiety amplifies racism and gives it fertile ground to grow in. Your OP header implies that Bernie thinks racism is caused by economic anxiety which is not true - he believes it gives it oxygen. People have an increased likelihood of actively seeking scapegoats when under duress. Racism becomes more virulent in times of economic anxiety.

Sanders may not sufficiently speak of racism as a stand alone malignant force, but he does not view it exclusively as a by product of economic oppression.

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