Letting it bubble under the surface now just means it will come out later.

I have known men who invaded women's personal space without evil intent, but that doesn't make it OK.

and her hand is resting on his shoulder. I wonder if this was before or after the touching she complains about. I'm not judging either one of them based on what has come out so far.

"tactile" and there is a lot of photographic evidence showing a pattern.

That being said - he will decide if he should enter the primary and the voters will decide if they want to select him.

....is an original member of the Board of Our Revolution?

Do people also realize that Biden has been putting his hands on shoulders and arms around people for decades?

Second point first:





Now about Ms. Flores:

WASHINGTON -- Our Revolution on Monday announced the formation of its board. The diverse coalition of eleven former elected officials, organizational leaders and grassroots activists join the board to continue the work they started as volunteers and surrogates for Sen. Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign, mobilizing progressives across the country to transform American politics.

Full board list below:

Nina Turner - Fmr. Ohio State Senator
Deborah Parker - Native American Leader
Ben Jealous - Civil Rights Leader
Jim Hightower - Political Leader, National Radio Commentator & Writer
Jim Zogby - Arab American Human Rights Leader
Huck Gutman - Former Chief of Staff for Senator Bernie Sanders
Jane Kleeb - Environmental Activist
Lucy Flores - Fmr. Nevada Assemblywoman
Larry Cohen - Labor
Catalina Velasquez - Immigration, Reproductive Justice and Trans Queer Liberation Activist
Shailene Woodley - Actress and Environmental Activist

https://ourrevolution.com/press/our-revolution-announces-formation-of-board/

This will be repeated on all the Democratic candidates until none of them can win against Trump.

The goal is to destroy the Democratic party in a stupid hope that it will turn far left and become socialist the way Sirota wants it.

No true Democrat should stand for these dirty tricks.

Much as I appreciate her policies, if she leads a pack ala Gillibrand, I’ll be looking elsewhere.


Two hits in two days, Flores and Buttigrieg. I’m skeptical on both.

We do not need to eat our own.

Biden has had a "personal space" issue, for like ... forever. It doesn't make it right.

It also shouldn't disqualify him, but I'm betting in the end, it will.

Joe should step aside.

I believe Sanders owes the American people ten years worth of his and Jane's full tax returns. He promised that they'd be released "soon" but that was about a month ago. This is starting to look like a great big "fuck you" aimed squarely at the voters and the other candidates. It's starting to look like they're hiding something. By not releasing their tax returns and making excuse after excuse and giving us delay after delay, it's like they're pleading the fifth. Obviously it's not proof positive of any wrongdoing, but it certainly does look suspicious.

Look, if those tax returns have been submitted to the IRS, then they are ALREADY COMPLETE... aside from blacking out some SSN's they're ready to go. So what's the hang-up? What's the delay?

All I'm saying is that the American people deserve to see proof that someone they're considering voting for is NOT a tax-cheat. People deserve to know where the money is coming from, where it's being invested/saved (domestically or in an off-shore tax haven) and we deserve to know more about a candidate's moral character and what's important to them by seeing which charities they donate to and support.

If he's not going to release his taxes (and I don't believe he will) then he should step aside.

Whataboutism whataboutism whataboutism

does he know her personally and can vouch for her truthfulness. I am relatively new to DU, but the poster you replied to does not seem to want a fair and frank discussion of this subject.

against Democrats, claimed that "a woman fantasizes being raped by three men simultaneously,"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bernie-sanders-essay/

vs. a life long Democrat.

I know where my loyalties are.

(and other) matters.

Isn't that organization somewhat rightwing? I could be getting it mixed up with another organization though.

Biden has inherent sexist tendencies that are more prevalent in his age group.

I find dismissing that fact, and it is a fact, to be the problem. Writing it off as the “usual suspects” or someone with an agenda is to dismiss the most prevalent form of sexism seen in society today.

It’s going to be overblown by some with an agenda. It’s fair to speak about that. It’s wrong to use it as a means to dismiss the societal issue as a whole and how Biden’s actions feed into it. It’s not sexual harassment. It’s not even harassment. Calling out those claiming it is either of the two is fine. What he does have is a pattern of action that is demeaning to women, non-existent in male to male communication outside of the familial unit, and the most common form of sexist behavior seen in society today.

I think Biden is an extremely good man. His intentions in these encountters are good. He simply doesn’t see the patriarchal, demeaning, and oppressive consequences of his actions. This is a one hundred percent learned behavior. The beauty of that is he is getting a lesson today and will be better for it.

Dismissing or calling out those with an agenda is fine. Using that as a way to dismiss the behavior is not.

Share your councel. It might be enlightening on the subject matter or more along personal lines.

Fair and on point.

Not a “demeaning to women” thing, IMO.
I agree with many here that a certain candidate is stirring this up.

That is the cornerstone of it.

When you say "It's and age thing," what with respect to age are you referencing if not a demeaning act?

I agree that a certain candidate is stirring shit up as well. I also know Biden's history. The two are not mutually exclusive and this isn't a singular event.

This could have been addressed by a comment you are making me feel uncomfortable when it happened. I don't see her going to the media when she was running and Joe was doing money bombs for her campaign.

A boss may hold the keys to a job and a fundraiser may hold the keys to sought money. I get why some people keep quiet.

If Biden touched her shoulders and kissed her head and she was not comfortable with it- from my perspective I don’t see it as a mark against Biden’s candidacy. If he’s the nominee I’d be glad to support him.

The whole story stinks

So sick of Dems (see Sander surrogates) dredging up shit about other candidates or reveling in it (Warren). Love Lizs' policies, but with Franken and now Biden, I'm just about over her. Maybe she would be better as Finance Secretary or Treasury? Sad.

It doesn’t strike me as disqualifying to Biden’s candidacy. I don’t know what questions Biden might need to answer about this.