Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)HRC said exactly what needed to be said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Link to tweet
Given how endorsing Bernie has always elevated folks like Turner and Gabbard in the eyes of young voters/Sander's supporters, I wonder what could go wrong toting this guy's endorsement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,275 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Autumn
(45,103 posts)appeared on Sterns show.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Autumn
(45,103 posts)and Hillary appeared on his show.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Autumn
(45,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)have celebrated his endorsement...bad mistake.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)Asking for a friend.
Rogan did.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)Tis on twitter and it is not pretty.
I don't tweet, yet it is easy to read all there in black and white.
Women should be shot in the C**t.
Gross and disgusting. Rogan is a pig.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)69. Then don't waste my time asking what you already know. nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,334 posts)Did her supporters say that people who don't tow the progressive line should leave the party, like Sanders supporters say?
Do you really think the Democratic party should welcome sexists, racists, and transphobics, but kick out moderates?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The hypocrisy, IMHO is not funny at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Doing so, in some ways, legitimizes the rhetoric Rogan spews. The endorsement isn't the issue. Sanders boasting about it is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)Sanders should not have done this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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sheshe2
(83,785 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)She did not appear on his show in 2016 or acknowledge his support in any way. He said "I don't think I've ever tried harder to get a guest than I did with Hillary Clinton in the run-up to the 2016 election." There was no communication between Hillary and Howard until she went on his show a couple months ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)You good.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)HRC didnt embrace the Stern endorsement and wave it around like a flag. All Bernie had to do was be quiet about it and Move On probably would not be involved.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)As you know, he wrote a book in 2002 called "Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative." It is now 2020. David Brock is a Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)That will change when he loses the primary. He is registered to run as the INDEPENDENT SENATOR OF VT.
Democrat. Independent. Democrat and so on. Very confusing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Have either of them done to be persona non grata?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)I guess that's what they did bad?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,275 posts)I really appreciated this post of yours, too.. so I'll tell you here. I'm not kicking that one more gd time.
Excellent analysis..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=444588
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I find it concerning that well knowing people are downplaying what happens to someone when they endorse Bernie. It has revived Nina Turner's political career, almost set Tulsi up as his natural successor, and put local politicians on the map. Young supporters aren't going to get a sanitized version of Rogan when they decide to pay some respect to a man that endorsed Bernie. They're going to get the full uncensored version w/ an extra helping of aggrievement if Bernie loses.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,275 posts)went from being my rep.. to saying she quits next year.. we Got So Lucky.
Now she's suing Google and Hillary for $50 Million each..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)listen to them in my House. If I heard Lynch's version of Special Fred one more time, I was throwing that phone out the window and Rogan was so vile I can't even post it here. Sure, he probably listened elsewhere. But, I told him you were not brought up to listen to a vile piece of crap like Rogan or Lynch...some months later, he came to me and said I was right...the Rogan had gone off on Gays...and Lesbian's particularly...and his sister my youngest is Gay. As for Lynch his new girlfriend hated Lynch. That was it for him too. And today my son is a fine young man very proud of him. I don't want a guy who likes the proud boys and Alex Jones influencing my son or other boys with his version of toxic manhood...no thank you. Shame on Sanders for accepting this endorsement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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tishaLA
(14,176 posts)is "establishment," so his campaign may not even care
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,773 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Are you saying class based analysis of everything is idiotic.?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)and plutophobia, Sanders campaign has no core values other than finding gullible people to vote for him.
His top campaign staff voted for Jill Stein.
And now championing the endorsement of a racist, white supremacist, homophobic, xenophobic and misogynist vile buffoon.
Ask yourself .... would JFK have done this? Obama? Jimmy Carter? Bill Clinton? SMH.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)And came up with: Hell no!
This is a betrayal of liberal Democratic values in my estimation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,275 posts)racist, misogynist, homophobic, rogan is nothing to ******* brag about.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)a white woman. And then Bill Clinton compared Sister Souljah to David Duke.
But, yeah, I'm sure they would be positively horrified by someone who doesn't think trans women should participate in women's combat sports. I mean, you gotta draw the line somewhere!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)candidate that is surrounds themselves with racists.
Bottom line. Period.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Must try harder.
And kudos for making trans women part of the punchline.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Bernie bashers for some bizarre reason, but personally I think that was a pretty bad move.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,275 posts)smh..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)you just let us know right away.
ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The only purity test I have seen is from the BS crew.
They are ultra progressive's or you will be primaried. They are blocking the door in the big tent. No moderate or liberal will be allowed. They want to make it their tent when in fact it is OUR TENT.
A moderate, Manchin, a picture of him the other day at the Senate hearing with Tammy Baldwin next to him taking copious notes, then there was Bernie....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Bernie gets an endorsement from an independent talk host, and everyone is all outraged. I get that Rogan has said offensive things, but like you said, the way you grow the party and win elections is by getting support outside of the ultra progressives.
And this isn't even endorsing Joe Rogan for office, it's just receiving an endorsement. From an independent. I'm pretty sure if Biden got endorsed by an actual Republican (if it hasn't happened already), everyone would be thrilled about it. And for good reason.
I totally agree that there's no point in replacing moderate Dems in swing districts with lefties that go on to lose to Republicans. But there's also no point in rejecting votes from Joe Rogan's audience, which is pretty big and probably includes a lot of independents who could go either way.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)Offensive? He said he wanted to shoot a woman in the C**t
I did not say that you did. I do not want racist misogynist haters' in our party, the GOP is already full up with them.
WTF? It is an endorsement from a hate filled man that hates women, POC, LGBT.
I can't even touch this one. He was vilified for even saying he would work with one.
Sorry. I do not wants Rogan's "audience" in out party. We might just as well do a Kumdaya with faux snooze.
I don't understand you anymore, Dan.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doremus
(7,261 posts)No knee jerk, just logic and common sense. Thank you.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I have no idea why anyone who didn't before would become an apologist for Sanders as information about the Real Bernie Sanders is coming out. But he really could use even one person who could come up with honest, intelligent arguments. Isn't that where you might be able to contribute? Unless, of course, this is the closest you could come up with, in which case... Really?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Unlike JFK or Joe Rogan (or Joe Biden), Bernie has always been ahead of his time in terms of being progressive. But we can't be purists, so in order to win elections, we also need independents like Joe Rogan's audience.
I mean, that's the whole reason we're told that we need to accept Biden's centrist policies on issue after issue, and his votes for the Iraq War and deregulation and bankruptcy and welfare and trade and so on (seriously, has he made any progressive votes?) is that we can't alienate those "moderates". Right? When Biden is talking up his segregationist buddies, or bashing welfare queens, or floating a Republican running mate, it's all for then greater good, it's all part of the plan to get independents, right?
But then Bernie, actually getting an endorsement from an independent with a large audience, and without actually shifting his policies to the right the way Biden does, and it's all outrage from the centrists. Hypocrisy is head spinning.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Because we go down that road, everyone loses. Including JFK.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,275 posts)for BS & the endorsement of the racist, homophobic, misogynistic POS.
Link to tweet
HRC Campaign/January 24, 2020..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=444682
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Still, I was asked the question "would JFK do this" and the answer is that JFK would do things much worse than accepting an endorsement from a talkshow host that says offensive things.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,275 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Still, it was nice of you to apologize so quickly for JFK's abject racism. I imagine the rest of the people that hate Bernie would be equally accepting of opposition to interracial marriage by people not named Bernie Sanders. It's a nice synopsis of what's actually going on with all the faux-woke outrage about Joe Rogan.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,537 posts)or her recent and only appearance on his show as having something to do with the Joe Rogan endorsement. What the hell.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,275 posts)about joerogan.
HRC Campaign
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)an endorsement and a campaign which doesn't. Not that hard! Sad!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Hillary went on in 2019. And despite them saying so, there was no proof of Howard Stern starring in an endorsement video posted on Hillary's Tweeter account like what Rogan did for Bernie. No proof of any endorsement actually.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)until the 2016 election, didn't go on the show or acknowledge his support. Seems like his feelings were a little hurt. Obviously there's zero comparison.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)He said he felt remorse for having Trump on all those times and wished he could have had Hillary on a few times, that it might have helped her in 2016.
But she didn't go on until last year. There is zero comparison.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)They can't defend the campaign's promotion of this guy, so they deflect.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Black vote as well as other POC and the gay community are crucial to winning the presidential election.
That being said, Republicans are duly pushing the narrative that BS should be the choice for the Democratic Party's nominee.
Regarding the Impeachment "sham" trial, on the defense of shithole, they are going full force against the Bidens. Pompeo is going to Ukraine.
Also Republicans are trying to keep Democrats bickering. Ain't gonna work.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)BTW, how the hell is Joe Rogan?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)wants... make Sanders the Nominee. Those of us who don't want Sanders to be the nominee and believe he will lose the general need to get behind one candidate...Sanders has my vote in a general but God I hope it never happens.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)I hope The Sanders campaign will repudiate Rogans vile rhetoric against marginalized groups.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yaesu
(8,020 posts)NOT, yawn, good try though. well, not even that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TheFarseer
(9,323 posts)I read HRC and instantly though Hillary Rodham Clinton.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Ain't it the truth?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,275 posts)misogynistic, homophobic" POS.
Link to tweet
HRC Campaign/January 24, 2020..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=444682
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fragment
(68 posts)Maybe everyone should remove their bias spectacles and see our situation as it truly is; this is an existential fight for the soul of America.
I say, if the deplorables choose to endorse and vote for a liberal candidate, well then whoopee!!! Isnt this just what we want?
I love Bernie, I have been following him for the last twenty years. These right wingers are still our fellow Americans, maybe Bernie can brings us together with the hope of something genuine. As much as I admire and respect all of our candidates, none of them is as real as Bernie. But I am all in for whoever wins the primary.
I am sooo tired of the DUers tearing down each others preferred candidates it makes me think of the scene from The Fellowship of the Ring where everyone but the hobbits is seen arguing and clashing reflected in the Ring. Who needs Russian Trolls when they can count on us to tear down our own candidates?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....who has "bias spectacles"! I'd say anyone who has made the comments he's made about blacks, transsexuals, gays, women, etc. is the one who has the issues, not those here who are outraged with his comments.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fragment
(68 posts)Your response sounds like a knee-jerk reaction. We cant control what other people believe. Much of it is either idiotic or hateful or both. What I am saying is that we have to keep our eye on the prize, or Trump will win again, as unbelievable as that may seem
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Prosper
(761 posts)than send a warning out about a negative endorsement. On the other hand the number of people seeing the light Bernie is shining on human rights, expanding healthcare, bringing opportunity back to the hourly working class, equal opportunity, giving people reasons to live instead of dying for, that number seems to be growing. If anything can be learned from the polls expanding in favor of Bernie it is Bernie represents a better way of life. Bernie is converting millions to the idea that real capitalism is making things to sell. He is awakening people to the truth that real capitalism is hardworking people making a product so good it is demanded the world over. That is real capitalism not the word stolen by opportunistic predatory profit thieves. The people that ruined decades of hard work by stealing again. Stealing the word capitalism to describe any kind of action that built profits by deception from laws they bought. Bernie represents too much of real life than to be hurt by the past of a new convert. The only way to perceive an endorsement by an opposer is that the opposition is seeing the light.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided