Democratic Primaries

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:32 PM

Jan 2020

This moves the needle enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)

2. Biden's latest tweet

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287440450

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:39 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

4. Bernie will not reach across the isle to work out a compromise with Rogan on Transgender equality

Reply to OKNancy (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:44 PM

Jan 2020

so Biden should chill.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,240 posts)

67. Biden: "Let's be clear: Transgender equality is the civil rights issue of our time. There is no room

Reply to Autumn (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:20 PM

Jan 2020

for compromise when it comes to basic human rights."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)

70. Correct. No one should "chill out" while Sanders embraces a bigot.

Reply to Cha (Reply #67)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:23 PM

Jan 2020

DiSqUaLiFyInG!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

101. Is Rogan on a committee now?

Reply to Autumn (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:34 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

111. Biden? This is MoveOn.org

Reply to Autumn (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:50 PM

Jan 2020

Did you reading skip the OP?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

120. "Who a candidate surrounds themselves with says a lot..."

Reply to Autumn (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:18 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)

135. We don't compromise with Homophobic assholes, racists...and misogynist like Rogan

Reply to Autumn (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:17 PM

Jan 2020

You don't compromise on civil rights.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

172. No WE Do Not "Compromise" on Civil Rights!

Reply to Demsrule86 (Reply #135)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 04:37 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

162. Actually BS should "chill"..

Reply to Autumn (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 03:52 PM

Jan 2020

chris evans

@notcapnamerica

@BernieSanders
: “Barack Obama won 10% of the white vote in Mississippi. That speaks to very bad work done by Democrats there. 90% of white people in Mississippi are not racist.”

FALSE!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

3. Rogan chose to endorse him, Bernie didn't ask for it. Move On should move on. nt

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:40 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)

5. This is true.

Reply to Autumn (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:45 PM

Jan 2020

The issue is that Bernie is embracing the endorsement of a known racist, misogynistic maniac. Bernie has to own that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Response to MontanaMama (Reply #5)

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MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)

11. Not the subject at hand.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287446665

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:52 PM

Jan 2020

Bernie needed to keep his sainted mouth shut on this one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

20. Endorsements from a couple of unacceptable asses obviously fit the subject at hand.

Reply to MontanaMama (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:59 PM

Jan 2020

One was fine. One isn't. Where was Move On back then?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)

29. Move On probably would not have

Reply to Autumn (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:04 PM

Jan 2020

entered the conversation had Bernie not made a big deal out of the endorsement. That’s the point. Not the endorsement itself.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

sheshe2

(83,771 posts)

88. +1000

Reply to MontanaMama (Reply #29)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:12 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

75. BS endorsing Cenk for CA25 is another one that didn't go Over

Reply to Autumn (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:43 PM

Jan 2020

so well, either.

I can't imagine why..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)

156. MoveOn needs to move on!!!

Reply to Autumn (Reply #20)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 01:10 AM

Jan 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!

Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,240 posts)

158. Rogan is a gd LIAR.. Biden & EW campaigns said they hadn't asked to appear on Rogan's show

Reply to Autumn (Reply #20)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 02:58 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

still_one

(92,190 posts)

13. What does Hillary have to do with this?

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:53 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

16. A lot. It proves a double standard. nt

Reply to still_one (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:54 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)

46. No it doesn't.

Reply to Autumn (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:32 PM

Jan 2020

It proves your argument is flimsy.

1) Did Hillary promote the endorsement of Stern? I don't recall that ever happening. Sanders took Rogan's endorsement and ran with it. Hillary did no such thing with Howard's endorsement.

2) Did Hillary go on Howard Stern's show in 2016 when she was running for president? No? Okay. And frankly, the issue here isn't that Bernie went on Rogan's show, it's that he openly embraced the endorsement of a bigot. You can go on someone's show, passionately disagree with their rhetoric, and not tie yourself to their views. But when someone endorses you, and you choose to flaunt it, you're, in some ways, legitimizing those views.

Bernie fucked up - just as he did with the endorsement of Cenk.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

still_one

(92,190 posts)

171. +++

Reply to Drunken Irishman (Reply #46)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 07:50 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

betsuni

(25,531 posts)

65. No, it doesn't.

Reply to Autumn (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:14 PM

Jan 2020

#WHATABOUTHILLARY.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

sheshe2

(83,771 posts)

93. IKR

Reply to betsuni (Reply #65)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:21 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)

126. I know.. the EXACT same argument that every Trumphumper uses word for word..

Reply to betsuni (Reply #65)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:51 PM

Jan 2020

With them it's always whatabout her or whatabout Obama.

The walls are really just getting thinner and thinner between the 2. So many similarities and parallels.

We don't need our own version of a Trump style populist leading our party platform.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

betsuni

(25,531 posts)

130. Right-wingers go for the Whatabout Obama more I think.

Reply to Amimnoch (Reply #126)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:22 PM

Jan 2020

Which makes more sense because he actually WAS president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

76. No.. Sorry you're Wrong, Autumn.. It Doesn't "prove" anything of

Reply to Autumn (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:49 PM

Jan 2020

the sort.

BS needs to Renounce the "racist, misogynist, homophobic", joe rogan

“Given Rogan’s comments, it is disappointing that the Sanders campaign has accepted and promoted the endorsement,” David added. “The Sanders campaign must reconsider this endorsement and the decision to publicize the views of someone who has consistently attacked and dehumanized marginalized people.”

HRC Campaign/January 24, 2020..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=444682S

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

138. They should have learned their lesson with Cenk...

Reply to Cha (Reply #76)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:23 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

144. Yes, Cenk was a Hard Lesson for the BS campaign but

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #138)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:42 PM

Jan 2020

here we are again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

146. For some politicians, personal loyalty and flattery is more important than anything when it comes

Reply to Cha (Reply #144)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:45 PM

Jan 2020

to who they align with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Response to Autumn (Reply #16)

airmid This message was self-deleted by its author.

Cha

(297,240 posts)

89. joe rogan is a misogynist, homophobic, racist and Moveon

Reply to airmid (Reply #80)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:13 PM

Jan 2020

is asking BS to renounce his endorsement.. and so is the HRC Campaign..

HRC Campaign/January 24, 2020..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=444682S

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

123. Yes, Rogan is indeed vile

Reply to airmid (Reply #80)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:41 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

betsuni

(25,531 posts)

128. Rogan called Hillary "a lying old lady who faints a lot."

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #123)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:19 PM

Jan 2020

Then goes on to say "Ladies, you make people. ... And you want to be president, too, you f****** greedy b******? What else do you want? You want bigger d**** than us?"

I didn't know who Rogan was so just read an article about him in The Atlantic. Says his main targets are "Hillary, the #MeToo movement, why it sucks that he can't call things 'gay,' vegan bullies, sexism."

I know who Rogan is now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

132. Yes, and if you say he's any friend to progressives, you don't know him. (nt)

Reply to betsuni (Reply #128)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:05 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

148. Mahalo for enlightening us MORE on just HOW VILE joe rogan

Reply to betsuni (Reply #128)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:54 PM

Jan 2020

is.

I didn't know who he was, either.. but Now I do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

betsuni

(25,531 posts)

149. Sometimes comedians can be vulgar and still funny. This is not one of those times.

Reply to Cha (Reply #148)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

Jan 2020

Comparing him to strong supporters of our Democratic nominees for president like Howard Stern or David Brock is ... I need a new word to express how beyond absurd and offensive that is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

150. THe Big Problem for BS is..

Reply to betsuni (Reply #149)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 10:15 PM

Jan 2020

he is embracing the joe rogan endorsement.. so any attempts at comparisons with anyone else getting "endorsements" is desperately grasping at straws.. that just aren't there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

betsuni

(25,531 posts)

151. I'm a little surprised the campaign hasn't renounced the endorsement yet.

Reply to Cha (Reply #150)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

Jan 2020

It will be interesting if they don't.

Wondering if Rogan will also endorse the eventual nominee and encourage his audience to vote Democratic. From the little I know about him he doesn't seem to despise the Democratic Party, so in that way maybe less damaging than Cenk, who definitely influenced his audience to not vote or vote third party against Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)

142. Stop...Hillary was never endorsed by Howard Stern...she was on his show in 19 well after the

Reply to Autumn (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:38 PM

Jan 2020

campaign was over. Sanders supporters and Trump still with an obsession with Hillary. Maybe some (not saying you) should move on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)

155. BIIIIIINNGGOOOOO!!!

Reply to Autumn (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 01:09 AM

Jan 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!

Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,240 posts)

159. It "proves" NOTHING.

Reply to Autumn (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 02:59 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

170. Yeah, what did Hillary have to do with BS embracing

Reply to still_one (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 07:04 PM

Jan 2020

joe rogan's endorsement?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)

19. Of course there wasn't.

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:57 PM

Jan 2020

Overlooking double standards while attacking Sen. Sanders seems to be the accepted norm.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

23. It's just like support for women. It all depends on the woman.

Reply to Devil Child (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:59 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,240 posts)

82. And, "support" for men.. it all depends on the "man". Moveon

Reply to Autumn (Reply #23)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:03 PM

Jan 2020

is asking BS to renounce the "homophobic, racist, misogynist" joe rogan.

And, so is the HRC Campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

163. BS campaign Attacks Biden for this.. you wanna talk about "double standards"?

Reply to Devil Child (Reply #19)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 04:27 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)

48. Why should there be?

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:36 PM

Jan 2020

Howard has never promoted hate in any form.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

MH1

(17,600 posts)

96. Stern is toxic. I have no idea who Rogan is but it seems to be agreed he is also toxic.

Reply to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #48)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:27 PM

Jan 2020

But I can't compare the two.

My first exposure to Stern was when I moved back home in the early 90's and he had a morning show on a station I liked. At the time there was some significant ethnic conflict happening in the city. I listened to Stern's show a few times until I realized that he was basically baiting one side against the other. I was disgusted and sick. I turned to a different station and have avoided him ever since. I have no idea what anyone sees in him.

And Rogan sounds like someone I would turn off now before I even learned his name, so it's not surprising I don't know who he is.

I agree that the situations aren't equivalent, with Sanders celebrating the Rogan endorsement. (Wow. Right?)

But I don't agree with your statement that "Howard has never promoted hate in any form." I heard it otherwise in that timeframe I mentioned. But maybe he changed over the years.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

52. Howard Stern isn't half as bad as Joe Rogan is.

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:52 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

60. Right George. Howard Stern deeply respects women.

Reply to George II (Reply #52)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:56 PM

Jan 2020

One and done

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

61. One and done until the next.

Reply to Autumn (Reply #60)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:57 PM

Jan 2020

Like I said, Howard Stern isn't half as bad as Joe Rogan.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

83. So you agree that BS needs to "renounce" joe rogan?

Reply to Autumn (Reply #60)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:04 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

127. .....

Reply to Cha (Reply #83)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:16 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

129. ..

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #127)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:21 PM

Jan 2020

lol

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)

64. I was outraged by Kissinger

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:02 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)

15. racist?

Reply to MontanaMama (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:54 PM

Jan 2020

Joe Rogan is no racist. Good grief. Your name calling is childish and belittles those who suffer from racism.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)

21. Think again.. good old Rogan using the N word repeatedly

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:59 PM

Jan 2020

?s=21

And here’s what he thinks of the LBGQT community

?s=21

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

169. rogan is such a racist asshole

Reply to Thekaspervote (Reply #21)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 03:10 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

squirecam

(2,706 posts)

30. And a birther too

https://web.archive.org/web/20200125121954/https:/twitter.com/MillCityComic/status/307998699710193664

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:05 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

90. Do not accuse a member here of being "childish.. to protect the racist Joe Rogan

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:17 PM

Jan 2020

who is most certainly a "racist".. his "racist" bilge has been posted all over the internet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

113. You think that a birther isn't racist? No? How about someone who promotes Breitbart?

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:56 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Beakybird

(3,333 posts)

118. WHOA!!! DISQUALIFYING!

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #113)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:15 PM

Jan 2020

Bernie, get with it man. I'm a fan of your policies, but your personality, for me, is a hard sell. Promoting this endorsement was a major misstep.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

133. How about misogynist? Care to defend this?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=446898

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:13 PM

Jan 2020

WARNING: Offensive and unedited hateful mysogynistic and explicit language in the video.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

71. Exactly, MontanaMama.. nina turner was celebrating the endorsement..

Reply to MontanaMama (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:24 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)

6. You're right...but Bernie leveraged it.

Reply to Autumn (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:48 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)

9. Did you even bother to read the OP, sure doesn't look like it. nt

Reply to Autumn (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:51 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

12. No need to read it. I think Move On should move on.

Reply to UniteFightBack (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:53 PM

Jan 2020

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

still_one

(92,190 posts)

14. Hillary isn't running for President

Reply to Autumn (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:54 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

18. Endorsements are endorsements

Reply to still_one (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:56 PM

Jan 2020

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)

33. HRC didn't parade Stern's endorsement...

Reply to Autumn (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:07 PM

Jan 2020

All Bernie had to do was be quiet, that’s all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

39. I don't care, it's the hypocrisy you see. I didn't know who he was I had to google

Reply to MontanaMama (Reply #33)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:13 PM

Jan 2020

him and I will never bother to watch anything he does. But I agree 100% with what he said. Rogan is right.

“I think I'll probably vote for Bernie... He’s been insanely consistent his entire life. He’s basically been saying the same thing, been for the same thing his whole life. And that in and of itself is a very powerful structure to operate from.” -Joe Rogan

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

68. And in a nano-second Sanders had a campaign ad boasting about Rogan's endorsement...

Reply to Autumn (Reply #39)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:20 PM

Jan 2020

....saying in the ad: "Joe Rogan Says He's Voting for Bernie"! PS - "PAID FOR BY BERNIE 2020"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

sheshe2

(83,771 posts)

106. Hmmm

Reply to George II (Reply #68)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:41 PM

Jan 2020

George II (48,391 posts)
68. And in a nano-second Sanders had a campaign ad boasting about Rogan's endorsement...

....saying in the ad: "Joe Rogan Says He's Voting for Bernie"! PS - "PAID FOR BY BERNIE 2020"

I read someplace, that with this endorsement the campaign believes it can win over Indies that voted tRump.

Fact is they are alienating a huge, huge, huge number of our base, the Democratic base, Black, Women and LGTBQ. The thinking is convoluted, get a few white trump votes and lose thousands of our Democratic voters. He CAN NOT WIN WITHOUT THE BLACK VOTE.

I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)

77. I'm glad I'm not the only one who never heard of him.

Reply to Autumn (Reply #39)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:50 PM

Jan 2020

Bernie should learn to do his homework after the Cenk Uygur thing a couple of weeks ago.

"Insanely consistent"? On the Internet only credit cards are insane.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

103. I don't care that you didn't know who the misogynistic, racist,

Reply to Autumn (Reply #39)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:38 PM

Jan 2020

homophobic, joe rogan is.. I didn't who he was, either.

But we all have a crash course in joe rogan now.. thanks to BS embracing his endorsement.. and many are denouncing him and others are trying to cover.. why is that?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

W_HAMILTON

(7,867 posts)

36. Did Hillary tout Stern's endorsement like Sanders did Rogan's?

Reply to Autumn (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:08 PM

Jan 2020

Please provide evidence of this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)

40. No she didn't.

Reply to W_HAMILTON (Reply #36)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:16 PM

Jan 2020

And, she did not appear on Stern’s show when she was a candidate. Seems a simple enough concept. Don’t know why this is so difficult for some folks to grasp.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

betsuni

(25,531 posts)

59. Once the auto-WhataboutHillary begins, it cannot be stopped...

Reply to MontanaMama (Reply #40)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:55 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)

94. Jeebus

Reply to betsuni (Reply #59)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:24 PM

Jan 2020

It’s so true.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

still_one

(92,190 posts)

38. When Biden came out for the Hyde Amendment, I was quite critical of it. When he recanted that

Reply to Autumn (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:13 PM

Jan 2020

support I was glad he did that

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

41. Well since Bernie isn't going to suddenly become a racist asshole, and he's not going to be

Reply to still_one (Reply #38)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:19 PM

Jan 2020

Last edited Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:03 PM - Edit history (1)

voting for any bill Rogan writes to enact any shitty anti woman legislation like the Hyde Amendment or anti Trans legislation. When Bernie does that I will no longer support him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

still_one

(92,190 posts)

63. Sanders voted for bills which contained the Hype Amendment

Reply to Autumn (Reply #41)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:01 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

105. But BS is celebrating the Endorsement of the Racist, Misogynistic,

Reply to Autumn (Reply #41)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:41 PM

Jan 2020

homophobic Asshole.. and THAT is the point of the OP from MOVEON.. to Denounce IT!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

100. Oh really "endorsements are endorsements"?.. you don't say? lol

Reply to Autumn (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:34 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)

131. So, if Richard Spencer endorsed Sanders, you'd support it?

Reply to Autumn (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:53 PM

Jan 2020

Endorsements are endorsements, Right?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,240 posts)

164. Here's spencer now.. endorsing joe rogan's endorsement..

Reply to BuffaloJackalope (Reply #131)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 06:15 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)

166. Well, isn't that special.

Reply to Cha (Reply #164)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 06:19 PM

Jan 2020

Maybe it'll give Bernie the kick in the pants he needs.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,240 posts)

168. lol oe not.

Reply to BuffaloJackalope (Reply #166)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 06:21 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

165. here's richard spencer with one of those "endorsements" you speak of..

Reply to Autumn (Reply #18)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 06:17 PM

Jan 2020

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=446898

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

119. But that still doesn't stop people from using her as a "whipping boy."

Reply to still_one (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:17 PM

Jan 2020

She persisted, and she didn't apologize.

That is just too much for some people, and they lose it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)

22. Thank you for your response. With so little you said a lot. nt

Reply to Autumn (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:59 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

26. Yes I said a lot. You just don't like it so... move on.

Reply to UniteFightBack (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:02 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)

24. Stern and Rogan and 2 entirely different commodities

Reply to Autumn (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:00 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

25. They are two different men. Both are nasty. One is acceptable and one isn't. We know why nt.

Reply to Thekaspervote (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:01 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)

27. NO... see post 21

Reply to Autumn (Reply #25)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:02 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

35. I won't watch them, I'm not a fan. Go look at a Howard Stern Video. I won't even

Reply to Thekaspervote (Reply #27)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:08 PM

Jan 2020

lower myself to google one for you. People can endorse whoever they wish. Endorsements or the lack of them have no impact on me or my support.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,240 posts)

112. It's NOT joe rogan's "endorsement" of BS .. it's the FACT

Reply to Autumn (Reply #35)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:54 PM

Jan 2020

that BS is celebrating said endorsement.

See the difference?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

betsuni

(25,531 posts)

74. Why?

Reply to Autumn (Reply #25)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:36 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

108. NO.. it's been explained to you.. the Differnce..

Reply to Autumn (Reply #25)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:46 PM

Jan 2020

BS is celebrating the joe rogan endorsement.. but you refuse to acknowledge it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DanTex

(20,709 posts)

28. Well, they became different all of a sudden when one endorsed Hillary and the other Bernie.

Reply to Thekaspervote (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:03 PM

Jan 2020

Before they were both shock-jocks who said offensive things.

But this is all a nice lens into the hypocrisy of faux-woke centrist pundits and people who hate Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)

32. Your entitled to your opinion

Reply to DanTex (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:07 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

43. That's a fact.

Reply to DanTex (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:20 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)

45. Did Hillary Clinton elevate that endorsement? Oh another undecided huh? *Guffaw* nt

Reply to DanTex (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:27 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

173. So you're calling Moveon "haters" of BS?

Reply to DanTex (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:09 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)

49. Not remotely the same thing.

Reply to Autumn (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:37 PM

Jan 2020

Lumping Howard in with Rogan is absurd.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

62. They are both a perfect pair. You are fine with one and not the other. Bye

Reply to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #49)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:59 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,240 posts)

109. AGAIN.. you refuse to Acknowledge the Difference between

Reply to Autumn (Reply #62)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:49 PM

Jan 2020

BS celebrating joe rogan's endorsement.. and whatever else you're trying to push.

Why is that?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

115. Who promoted Breibart? Bye....

Reply to Autumn (Reply #62)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:03 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)

154. No, they aren't.

Reply to Autumn (Reply #62)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 12:49 AM

Jan 2020

Not even close. Stern doesn’t do hate speech nor has he ever.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

66. Why do you keep dragging Clinton into this - that was 2016, this is 2020. The 2016 primary is over.

Reply to Autumn (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:16 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

betsuni

(25,531 posts)

78. Right? If it's not 2016 it's the 90s.

Reply to George II (Reply #66)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:51 PM

Jan 2020

It's weird to have to keep saying "It's 2020"!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

98. Here is What Moveon has the say about BS... BS is the one who Needs to MOVEON

Reply to Autumn (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:32 PM

Jan 2020

from the racist, misogynistic, homophobic, joe rogan.

“It's one thing for Joe Rogan to endorse a candidate. It's another for @BernieSanders’ campaign to produce a video bolstering the endorsement of someone known for promoting transphobia, homophobia, Islamophobia, racism and misogyny,” MoveOn tweeted Saturday.

“We urge Sen. Sanders and his campaign to apologize and stop elevating this endorsement. We stand in solidarity with folks hurt by this.”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

sheshe2

(83,771 posts)

114. I guess he will be kissing Move On's endorsment goodbye.

Reply to Cha (Reply #98)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:56 PM

Jan 2020

Rogan is far more important than Move On?! Defend him at all costs?

I am so confused!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

116. BS is making his choice.. and who is surprised?

Reply to sheshe2 (Reply #114)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:04 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

sheshe2

(83,771 posts)

124. Grasshopper did not make a wise choice.

Reply to Cha (Reply #116)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:49 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

69. Didn't say he did.. Moveon is asking BS to "renounce it" insteaed of

Reply to Autumn (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:21 PM

Jan 2020

celebrating it like ninaturner is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

79. Bernie didn't ask for the endorsement, but it chose to celebrate it instead

Reply to Autumn (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:55 PM

Jan 2020

of say that the campaign don't want an endorsement from a person like that. Elizabeth Warren chose to send back a campaign contribution from a controversial person, simply because it didn't want to be associated with that person.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

mcar

(42,333 posts)

85. Bernie and his staff chose to celebrate the endorsement

Reply to Autumn (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:08 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)

102. Your vehement defense of a guy you claim not to even know is rather odd.

Reply to Autumn (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:37 PM

Jan 2020

And somewhat enlightening.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)

136. Sander chose to retreat it and make it a big deal...so no. Not moving on.

Reply to Autumn (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:19 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

140. Bernie turned down a donation from Skrelli. He can distance himself from Rogan.

Reply to Autumn (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:24 PM

Jan 2020

Like he did Cenk, once he found out how disappointed and outraged many of his supporters were.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DanTex

(20,709 posts)

7. I hope Bernie doesn't fold on this. If we end up with another Trump administration

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:50 PM

Jan 2020

by purity-testing ourselves out of independent votes, that's not going to benefit anyone.

I get that highly paid centrist pundits are upset by this, but they don't make up a very large part of the electorate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)

31. If he doesn't then it further harms his chances with the AA community

Reply to DanTex (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:05 PM

Jan 2020

A sample of how the AA community feels about this

?s=21

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DanTex

(20,709 posts)

37. LOL. A twitter account that has been bashing Bernie the whole time?

Reply to Thekaspervote (Reply #31)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:09 PM

Jan 2020

I mean, if you're going to try arguing with anecdotal evidence, at least find an anecdote that actually fits your narrative, right?

The people offended by this consist of either professional pundits or people who already hated Bernie with a burning passion and would pretend to be offended even if Mother Teresa endorsed him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Autumn

(45,088 posts)

47. Some people on Twitter are for him. Others aren't. Here is a new one that sprang up if

Reply to Thekaspervote (Reply #31)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:33 PM

Jan 2020

we are doing tweets.

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/1/24/21080573/hot-girls-for-bernie-sanders-emily-ratajkowski

https://twitter.com/hashtag/hotgirlsforbernie?src=hashtag_click

Found here

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

81. So.

Reply to DanTex (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:02 PM

Jan 2020

If you were running for office and I was a celebrity that endorsed you, you would ignore the fact that I said racist and homophobic things just because you want the people that listen to me to vote for you?

Freaking WOW!!!!! It doesn't matter to you that people who listen to me likely aren't the type of people that you should associate with?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DanTex

(20,709 posts)

91. Big tent and all. I'm not into purity tests, I'm into not having Republicans run the country.

Reply to Blue_true (Reply #81)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:18 PM

Jan 2020

Now are there limits? Sure. Like, I wouldn't vote for a war that would kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people just because it polled well and I didn't want to get painted as soft on defense. I wouldn't pander to racists by talking about welfare queens driving luxury cars. I wouldn't describe a war criminal like Henry Kissinger as a good friend who I look to for counsel. I wouldn't play up my good relationship with segregationists.

No offense to anyone who did those things. Big tent and all. But, yeah, taking an endorsement from a shock jock that says offensive things? That I would do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

107. But, I can kiss up to modern racists and homophobes, and

Reply to DanTex (Reply #91)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:42 PM

Jan 2020

you would welcome my support?

The best that I could do since there is no "fainting" emoji.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DanTex

(20,709 posts)

110. So you're talking two-degrees-of-separation?

Reply to Blue_true (Reply #107)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:49 PM

Jan 2020

That's a dangerous road. For example, Obama invited a homophobic pastor to his inauguration, which is arguably "kissing up" to a homophobe (and let's be honest, probably a racist too). The two-degrees-of-separation standard would then condemn anyone who has welcomed support from Obama, which is, well, pretty much the whole Democratic Party.

That's the problem I have with the purity testing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,240 posts)

86. Sorry, you don't "get it".. this is Progresive Moveon asking BS

Reply to DanTex (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:09 PM

Jan 2020

to "renounce" the misogynist, racist, homophobic, joe rogan.. and the HRC Campaign.

HRC Campaign/January 24, 2020..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=444682S

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)

10. I am a long time fan of Joe Rogan

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:51 PM

Jan 2020

and his podcast. In fact, Joe changed my life two years ago. The MSM and other journalistic systems fear this new filter free venue. Joe Rogan's podcast is now listened to 1.5+ billion times per year at around $50-100M/year revenue.
Independent and 100% owned by Joe, no networks, no middle men and 90 million downloads per month. Joe is a comedian, speaks his mind but is a fierce advocate for all lifestyles, climate change and conservation. Many of his guest are gay. As a comedian, sure, he has made comments that are parity. Joe is no racist or homophobe. That is bullshit. He's bigger than outdated cable and network news. I can assure you, his endorsement is not hurtful. MoveOn can't win a fight against Rogan. Bernie has zero reason to say anything.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

still_one

(92,190 posts)

17. Right. Some of my best friends are...........

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:55 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

84. Yeah. Some of my friends burn crosses on Black people's lawns, but boy are the good

Reply to still_one (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:07 PM

Jan 2020

fellas down at the pub. I just can't believe how people rationalize stuff. A person who traffics in racial imagery or harm people due to their race IS NOT a good person and must be treated accordingly in all situations.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

squirecam

(2,706 posts)

50. He was a birther

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:40 PM

Jan 2020

https://web.archive.org/web/20200125121954/https:/twitter.com/MillCityComic/status/307998699710193664

No thanks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

stonecutter357

(12,697 posts)

56. long time fan of Joe Rogan ? Do you know he is a racist pig ?

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:54 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)

125. rogan isnt someone i had ever heard of but today my non political son in law said

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:49 PM

Jan 2020

I may vote for the democrat this year, rogan thinks that's the best chance we have ...how do I register?

now I have begged this guy to listen to every talking point I could come up with but , he believes rogan wants to save the planet and so now he says he will vote and vote for the democrat on top of that...so I say ..go joe rogan!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)

175. Where's the part where I'm supposed to care or be impressed?

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 11:53 PM

Jan 2020

You want to support a guy like that it’s your business. But be prepared for others to either not give a fuck or disagree.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)

34. This guy has been campaigning for 5 years now you'd think he'd be a little smarter about this

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:07 PM

Jan 2020

and SAY NOTHING about this endorsement. Certainly don't highlight it for fuck sake.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)

42. Right?

Reply to UniteFightBack (Reply #34)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:19 PM

Jan 2020

All he had to do was not wave the endorsement around like a damn flag. Ssshhhhhh, Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)

44. What is troubling is the lack of objectivity from his followers and

Reply to MontanaMama (Reply #42)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:23 PM

Jan 2020

yes I'm using the word followers on purpose here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)

51. 'stop elevating' and 'renounce' aren't the same thing, are they?

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:49 PM

Jan 2020

I can't find anything, aside from the title and editorialized by-line that says 'renounce'.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

RandySF

(58,835 posts)

53. They're different from 'embrace'.

Reply to floppyboo (Reply #51)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:53 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)

54. This is silliness.

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:53 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

empedocles

(15,751 posts)

55. At this point BS, like trump before him, tends to need publicity

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:53 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

stonecutter357

(12,697 posts)

57. WOW !

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:54 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Fragment

(68 posts)

58. You all have the same Us vs Them mentality as the Republicans

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:54 PM

Jan 2020

Is there some mysterious reason why a vote or an endorsement for a liberal candidate is not a good thing?

I say, let all the deplorables endorse Sanders or Biden or any of the others. Only a very great fool would complain — right?

We can argue over what it all means after we have beaten Trump.

Please, stop doing the Republicans job for them!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

squirecam

(2,706 posts)

92. Nope

Reply to Fragment (Reply #58)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:20 PM

Jan 2020

Principles matter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Red Raider 85

(102 posts)

117. Bingo! Spot on.

Reply to Fragment (Reply #58)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:12 PM

Jan 2020

Last edited Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:30 AM - Edit history (1)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,240 posts)

153. "Bingo" Not "spot on".

Reply to Red Raider 85 (Reply #117)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 12:02 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

152. rogan is vile sexist misogynist.. yeah I don't fucking

Reply to Fragment (Reply #58)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 12:01 AM

Jan 2020

"embrace" that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)

72. This is going to be big as more and more groups come out against Joe Rogan

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:31 PM

Jan 2020

It shows the inexperience, immaturity and tone deafness of the Sanders campaign. Their "winning at all costs" approach is going to bite them in the behind.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

134. And, more and more comes out about joe rogan..

Reply to NCProgressive (Reply #72)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:16 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)

137. Yes ... I saw this tweet earlier

Reply to Cha (Reply #134)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:21 PM

Jan 2020

?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fpoliticaloasis.freeforums.net%2Fthread%2F25540%2Fexplicit-video-rogan-talking-sexually

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

139. Yes, joe rogan is a VILE SEXIST!

Reply to NCProgressive (Reply #137)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:24 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

147. That's the kind of person Rogan is, an utter sleazebag.

Reply to NCProgressive (Reply #137)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:48 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

brer cat

(24,565 posts)

160. That is disgusting.

Reply to NCProgressive (Reply #137)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 09:14 AM

Jan 2020

I can't believe any campaign would not disown his endorsement. Yet he is defended here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

oasis

(49,387 posts)

73. Bernie's swapped his podium bird for an albatross. nt

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:34 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

121. Yep.. "Who a candidate surrounds themselves with says a lot.."

Reply to oasis (Reply #73)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:21 PM

Jan 2020

oasis

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)

141. So many contrasts. This one really shows the difference between them in a nutshell.

Reply to Cha (Reply #121)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:36 PM

Jan 2020

Good post, Cha.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

145. It's an Excellent contrast between Biden and BS..

Reply to emmaverybo (Reply #141)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:44 PM

Jan 2020

I lifted it from a post by Gothmog!

Mahalo, emmverybo

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

dlk

(11,566 posts)

87. When someone shows you who they really are, believe them the first time

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:10 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

MH1

(17,600 posts)

97. Yep. I did, which is why I'm not supporting Bernie this time. nt

Reply to dlk (Reply #87)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:29 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

dlk

(11,566 posts)

122. The deal-breaker for me was when Bernie voted to give blanket immunity to gun manufacturers

Reply to MH1 (Reply #97)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:34 PM

Jan 2020

Gun manufacturers are the ONLY industry in the entire US that had been gifted with blanket product liability immunity. As far as I’m concerned, every single person who voted in favor of that legislation has blood on their hands.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

157. Exactly!

Reply to dlk (Reply #87)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 02:53 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)

95. If Bernie doesn't believe that he elevates his endorsers,

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:27 PM

Jan 2020

he needs to ask his campaign staff and biggest boosters what their career and political prospects were before they got behind him.

Remember how Tim Canova raked in millions and had fervent backers despite being insane?
Yeah, get ready for some fresh young voter radicalization.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

99. Goodness... certainly Sanders supporters can't start calling this an "attack."

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:34 PM

Jan 2020

MoveOn...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)

104. i wish he hadn't done that. but actual voters don't seem to care much.

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:39 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Dietz

(65 posts)

143. The Human Rights Campaign also called on Sanders to renounce Rogan's endorsement