and see this as an opportunity. It's almost disingenuous.

I support sanders and warren - because I support their policies.

I'll continue to do that.

have a grasp on the problems and the issues we face.

No, its not an outcry against sanders, it’s an outcry for decency

disingenuous responses in this thread I think

I can’t believe that some are celebrating and even defending this endorsement

so I'm not apt to get swept up by that hypothetical.

Go Sanders! Go Warren!

I'm anxious to see the party move more to the left

to be friends with Strom Thurmond.

If Thurmond had a web show would that be different?

Sanders didn't actively seek out Rogsn. Biden actively curried favor with segregationists.

Just what insulates on candidate and not the other?

and anti-immigrant support?

I don't know if that talking point works as well as you think it does.

Become law

Sanders's values. Surely that can't be what you mean. Cutting LGBTQ people loose in order to win independent votes cannot be what you are proposing. Turning our backs on sexual minorities and immigrants and people of color would be compromising our values. How is it not compromising his values?

It’s like the good ol’ boy club. Ah ...gee it’s okay. I didn’t mean any harm. It’s just “the guys” talking. You know...

and makes any of his policies favoring women, minorities, immigrants, & LBGTQ+ people suspect.

The vehement defense of this guy is a bit mind-boggling.

I really hope Bernie or Warren gets the nod

Unless Sanders realizes his mistake & casts him aside, or Rogan repents.

with anyone who has ever endorsed or said they will vote for them. Politics makes for strange bed fellows.

Which is exactly what Sanders is doing by promoting the endorsement.

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Compromising means actually changing positions or policies, like the way Joe Biden did when polls showed that the Iraq War was popular, or like Warren did when she backed off single payer when the pundits started to complain.

Bernie changed nothing. He's as solid on those issues as he's ever been. He's not promoting Rogan's views on those issues, he's promoting the fact that people don't need to agree on every single issue in order to support a broadly and consistently progressive agenda.

I mean, I guess we could let everyone who doesn't agree on every single thing vote for Trump, but then we end up with Trump, and that's bad.

Than what trump is spewing??

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on civil rights, women's rights and LGBQT+ rights. It shows Sanders has a different view of what those rights are vs what these deliberately marginalized groups correctly demand from our political leaders.

Joe Rogan and his ilk are toxic, and make no mistake - their "solution" for these issues is death, plane and simple. That rhetoric - spouted by the likes of Joe Rogan - kills people. Women, blacks, immigrants, gays, trans people - KILLS THEM.

Seeing Sanders trying to hook up with a true POS like Rogan is disgusting. Either he's extremely desperate, or completely out of touch.

Do they celebrate it? Center it? Tout it? Ignore it? Decry it?

Southern Dems/former confederates also endorsed Horace Greeley in 1872 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Greeley).

You have to be wary that you're not confusing someones tactical voting or shallow support for persuasion.

I think folks from groups that have been on receiving end of offensive rhetoric from Rogan would be understandably concerned that their political needs are going to be de-emphasized in the name of maintaining political support from Rogan's audience that actually like him for that rhetoric.

It's coming like a storm just wait 😲

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Really?

How about this? Still think it's just all a joke?

WARNING: Deeply offensive and misogynistic content in the video.

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else in that twitter feed. All I did was post his explanation just a bit down from the one you posted and I googled to see if it was true or if he was lying. Snopes confirmed his response was true, as I posted in my response. Facts are facts.

That would put you in a very, very difficult position, wouldn't it, being that Bernie is embracing this man's approval.

That's a very hard needle to thread.

Think about why that is, and why you feel supporting your candidate requires that you look away from this, and avoid discussing it.

Facts are facts, yes?

interest in being outraged. You posted the tweet and I looked at it, I'm not going to bother looking for more But by all means carry on.

hateful things in that video.

You have "no interested in being outraged?" Is this new?

What you have no interest in is the embarassment of defending this candidate's doubling down on his pride in this man's approval.

Must be especially uncomfortable for Sanders' female supporters to be put in this position, once one has seen what Rogan is really known for.

I have no interest in looking at the other tweets and discussing them with you. That's not dancing around, sorry I'm just not interested in the discussion.

"Not interested."



You're embarassed, and can't respond with any real defense of Sanders' unwise embrace of him and I can understand why. That video is filled with pure gleeful misogyny. That must be incredibly frustrating for women who have supported Sanders to deal with. Avoiding even acknowledging its existence, or pretending that one thinks it's not really what it is, is likely the easiest way to cope with the implications of this video.

You would think that the campaign learned something after the whole thing with Cenk. However if one thinks that they don't ever make mistakes, learning from them is going to be impossible.

MoveOn has the courage to call him out on it. They have decided that misogyny is misogyny, and it's always bad to be associated with if one is a progressive.

I guess they have decided that Sanders aligning with Rogan's praise, and releasing a statement basking in it is worthy of some "interest."

Certainly compromised his integrity.

Highly misogynistic and hateful language in the video.

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You're obviously his base.

I don't think we get you wrong at all."let's hope the eventual nominee is also able to get support from outside the base without making compromises." No matter how toxic the source. "Bernie's been so consistent and unwavering on his principles." Has he really? I guess the main principle has been what's in it for me. And that doesn't require many compromises.

"And I totally get it, he did what he had to do, we can't all be pure all the time, sometimes we have to be politically savvy, disastrous war or no disastrous war. "

So 1 MILLION children, women and men in Iraq died so he could appear politically savvy?

And NO, you do not accept an endorsement from a man who speaks against your ideals, even if it is politically savvy.

Makes me want to