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Bernie Sanders' National Press Secretary tweets about Rogan, 2 weeks ago before the endorsement: (Original Post) George II Jan 2020 OP
O brother Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2020 #1
Oh.. so no more feigning...."maybe he didn't know." Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #2
Disclaimer - that was two weeks before the endorsement, but maybe that's what earned it? George II Jan 2020 #4
Sanders and his people need to get real about this. BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #3
K and R! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #5
Wow, She Is Getting Into Sarah Sanders Territory. TomCADem Jan 2020 #6
Fascinatating to see how some people "evolve" on certain issues melman Jan 2020 #7
Let's see, you went back EIGHT years to dig up an old post of MM's, only about two years for me.... George II Jan 2020 #9
Some people can't debate so they try to Cha Jan 2020 #12
Do you remember those old United Negro College Fund commercials years ago? George II Jan 2020 #14
No.. I didn't.. thank you for that beautiful ad.. they're Cha Jan 2020 #15
... betsuni Jan 2020 #22
You're half right melman Jan 2020 #17
No one did. Of course if someone did, with your photogenic (or eidetic) memory you could post.... George II Jan 2020 #18
If it was not a mistake to tout this endorsement romachrome Jan 2020 #8
Yes, it was a "mistake" to celebrate joe rogan's endorslement.. Cha Jan 2020 #13
Well, I don't know whether you and I mean the same thing by "mistake" romachrome Jan 2020 #20
In her world John Lewis is a cat killer dsc Jan 2020 #10
Makes one shake one's head, doesn't it? Here's that lovely tweet of hers..... George II Jan 2020 #11
This is who bri is... Cha Jan 2020 #16
Things that make you go "hm..." ehrnst Jan 2020 #19
Sounds like they were courting him mcar Jan 2020 #21
If you court a known homophobic, sexist, racist piece of shit...than what does that say about your Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #23
 

Thekaspervote

(32,771 posts)
2. Oh.. so no more feigning...."maybe he didn't know."
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. Disclaimer - that was two weeks before the endorsement, but maybe that's what earned it?
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:42 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)
3. Sanders and his people need to get real about this.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:42 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
6. Wow, She Is Getting Into Sarah Sanders Territory.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:57 PM
Jan 2020

First, she agrees with Trump on Russia


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Now, she is jumping on the Joe Rogan bandwagon.

That being said, remember what happened with Trump. The more racist and misogynistic his campaign became, the more his followers loved him. It was not a defect it was a feature.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
7. Fascinatating to see how some people "evolve" on certain issues
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jan 2020

After all it wasn't that long ago some people insisted the term "shim" wasn't a slur

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George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Let's see, you went back EIGHT years to dig up an old post of MM's, only about two years for me....
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jan 2020

....I feel slighted.

What's the deal with you about digging into old posts about people. Strange practice.

By the way, you're incorrect in your post above, "some people" didn't "insist the term "shim" wasn't a slur", in fact no one did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Cha

(297,275 posts)
12. Some people can't debate so they try to
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:30 PM
Jan 2020

insult the messenger.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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George II

(67,782 posts)
14. Do you remember those old United Negro College Fund commercials years ago?
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:33 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,275 posts)
15. No.. I didn't.. thank you for that beautiful ad.. they're
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:36 PM
Jan 2020

absolutely correct.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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melman

(7,681 posts)
17. You're half right
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:48 PM
Jan 2020

Some people didn't. Just one person did. No digging required I just remember these things.


But here's the deal. When some people have problematic histories on certain issues I think it's relevant to show that when they turn around and try to use these same issues as a cudgel to attack their political enemies. That's the deal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. No one did. Of course if someone did, with your photogenic (or eidetic) memory you could post....
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:01 PM
Jan 2020

....how that one person did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

romachrome

(12 posts)
8. If it was not a mistake to tout this endorsement
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:10 PM
Jan 2020

(I don't know if it was a mistake or not) then it was a political calculation. If it was a political calculation, it says that Sanders does not expect to lose supporters because of it, and has already written off gaining support from those who would be particularly upset with him for touting the endorsement. Maybe the Sanders campaign is starting to get a bit ahead of itself, looking toward the general election when he hasn't yet won the primary. If he was going to tout this endorsement, I think he should have waited till after he had won the primary (tactically speaking). On the other hand, perhaps he is trying to strengthen the argument that he has a better shot of winning in the GE because he can appeal to people who might otherwise vote for Trump; and that this will help him win the primary.

I do think Sanders has a pretty good history with regard to LGBTQ and POC so accepting the endorsement doesn't mean he is suddenly turning his back on everything he's ever supported. On the other hand it could certainly backfire just by looking like he is taking them for granted.

Bottom line, I guess I think it was a mistake. In which case I would expect to see him make some kind of statement to try and make amends to those who have been angered by it, whether or not he is certain that they will vote for him as a result. I personally had never heard of this Rogan guy before, and now that I've learned something about him I am uncomfortable with Bernie touting the endorsement even though I am somewhat leaning towards Bernie in this primary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,275 posts)
13. Yes, it was a "mistake" to celebrate joe rogan's endorslement..
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:32 PM
Jan 2020

Moveon and the HRC Campaign think so, too.

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romachrome

(12 posts)
20. Well, I don't know whether you and I mean the same thing by "mistake"
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 10:19 PM
Jan 2020

I was trying to differentiate between the campaign intentionally vs unintentionally upsetting some people. In this case "mistake" and "miscalculation" would not be the same thing. In one case, the campaign would have not realized that their actions would cause an uproar; in the other case, the campaign would have been aware of it, but calculated that it would help more than hurt them.

You seem to think it was an intentional act, but a miscalculated one. I think it is more likely to be an unintentional error, but if it was a calculation then it was probably a miscalculation. Slight difference between us, but we both agree it was probably not the right move for his campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

dsc

(52,162 posts)
10. In her world John Lewis is a cat killer
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:27 PM
Jan 2020

and Joe Rogan a genius. Only the best employees for Bernie.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Makes one shake one's head, doesn't it? Here's that lovely tweet of hers.....
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:28 PM
Jan 2020

....she probably never heard of him:

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Cha

(297,275 posts)
16. This is who bri is...
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:37 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. Things that make you go "hm..."
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:59 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,334 posts)
21. Sounds like they were courting him
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 10:41 PM
Jan 2020

But us Democrats who have concerns about M4A can pound sand.

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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
23. If you court a known homophobic, sexist, racist piece of shit...than what does that say about your
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:54 PM
Jan 2020

campaign in terms of civil right...social justice. I am completely disgusted

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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