Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumDMR also praised Warren's rivals, said some of her ideas go too far and her rhetoric is divisive
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Yes, the Des Moines Register endorsed Warren, and they're the most widely read paper in Iowa.
And I hope the endorsement moves some supporters from Sanders to Warren, especially with Republicans talking about meddling in the primary by voting for Sanders. (Though they'd have to re-register as Democrats to do so in Iowa.)
But the endorsement wasn't unmixed.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/caucus/2020/01/26/elizabeth-warren-president-democrat-iowa-caucuses-des-moines-register-editorial-board-endorsement/4562157002/
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Former Vice President Joe Biden would restore credibility in the White House and respect among allies around the world. Former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg brings refreshingly smart, youthful optimism. Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota offers a track record of bipartisan achievement. Much like Warren, Bernie Sanders champions the working class.
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Warren has proven she is tough and fearless.
But toughness can also be perceived as divisive, as can rhetoric that vilifies the wealthy, lobbyists and corporations that employ millions of people. Relentless attack mode threatens to further fracture a country riven by party, income and racial divides.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)haven't run across that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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blm
(113,065 posts)those who craft subject lines with the purpose of spreading their hatred of Warren.
Pitiful.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,323 posts)words only, blm.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Giving you lotsa space to do your primary loyalty thing, because I think you know in your heart that there is truth in my observations.
Ciao.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,323 posts)so you try to "kill the messenger".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Just calling out the subject line as written and its purpose.
Would you appreciate anyone posting every cherrypicked negative word against your candidate to post in their subject line? Would you see it for what it is....a tactic. Pretty sure you would attack back at that post.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,323 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,065 posts)spinning any Democrat who possesses that toughness as divisive.
Its a weak, cop out nod to the inevitable whiners.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)posts have when you snipe at anyone who dares disagree with Warren.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=407602
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=341711
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=341606
This is primary season, blm, and NOT a holy war.
When you accuse supporters of other candidates of "evil" and "hatred" simply for disagreeing with Warren you're really taking this too far.
And in this case I'm being accused of "Warren hate" for quoting part of the Des Moines Register's endorsement.
Please try to get some perspective here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,323 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)is certainly not helping the candidate of those who continue to perpetrate it either.
I noticed this bias a few months back. Not from YOU, Cha, to be clear.
But it has become MUCH more obvious since, I am VERY sorry to say.
And that is all that I'm saying here in this thread to anyone. Period.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,065 posts)Whatever one wants to call it, the single mindedness of the targeting is usually driven by something.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)single-minded determination to smear people simply because you disagree with what they say in this forum.
I'm tired of it.
There are many, many threads here critical of all the candidates, including the one I support.
They aren't "evil."
They don't indicate "hatred."
And the only thing they're "driven by" is an interest in politics.
Again, try to get some perspective.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,065 posts)No mystery.
You think youre being tactical when you craft your subject lines to be antiWarren.
Good thing I would never whine that youre not helping your candidate with these divisive posts of yours.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,323 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,065 posts)you know better than that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)If the OP is surprised by the pushback maybe scan the board and see if any other non-Warren supporters felt the need to start a thread like this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(113,065 posts)Comes from someplace dark, IMO.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)trying to maintain my perspective
Again, blm, this is NOT a holy war, and it does not help -- any of us, including you -- to treat it as such and accuse people you disagree with of "evil" or "hatred" or posting messages that "come from someplace dark" in your opinion.
But I'll give you an A for imagination in your accusations.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)hadn't answered my question about where the DMR's editors had said what you claimed they said.
And I posted this OP because no one would ever have known from the other OPs about the endorsement that it wasn't an unqualified endorsement, and the DMR endorsement started with these paragraphs:
Each of the remaining candidates campaigning across Iowa ahead of the caucuses could make a fine president. Each would be more inclusive and thoughtful than the current occupant of the White House. Each would treat truth as something that matters. Each would conduct foreign policy by coalition building rather than by whim and tweet.
The outstanding caliber of Democratic candidates makes it difficult to choose just one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,323 posts)EW and then they had more to say.. you could debate that or ignore it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,735 posts)I'd happily vote for either of them. And when you get right down to it they are more alike than they are different. There's no need for all of these accusations of "hate." Nobody is hating, or if they are, they are stupid and destructive. Don't hate Democrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden