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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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Autumn

(45,107 posts)
1. That's why the shit has hit the fan.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 01:44 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Zeus69

(391 posts)
2. Whatever...
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jan 2020

People somehow believe betting markets are designed to make the most accurate prediction. They're not. They're designed to make the most money.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
3. Reality is replacing reputation.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 01:50 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

yellowwoodII

(616 posts)
4. Yea!
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 01:52 PM
Jan 2020

Bernie or Elizabeth would be great!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
5. So the odds for Trumps re-election must have also increased.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jan 2020

Because that’s what will happen. People need to stop living in unicorns and rainbows la-la land and get a clue. As much as I love Warren, she hasn’t a prayer in the general and Sanders less than a prayer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
6. Betting markets tend to follow the media narrative. So this is the Sanders surge, and earlier we
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 02:14 PM
Jan 2020

had the Warren surge and at least some of the betting markets favored her. As I recall, there was a Harris surge before that.

Like little waves lapping against the front-runner's seawall.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
12. Well, a week ago they did....
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 04:04 PM
Jan 2020

You think it was the Joe Rogan endorsement that changed the odds? Or the new poll numbers? Or when Warren tried to attack him? Interesting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. That's the bookmakers compensating for heavy betting on Biden.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 02:22 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
13. I'm not sure it really works like that. Would that shift the odds towards Bernie?
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 04:04 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. Betting odds don't always (in fact rarely) reflect the changes of a win. A simple example:
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 04:14 PM
Jan 2020

A bookmaker gets $100 in various bets on the Kansas City Chiefs at -1 (KC favored) He gets none on the San Francisco 49ers.

If KC wins by 2 or more he wins $100, but if SF wins he loses all his bets. So, as time goes on and based on the incoming bets, a bookmaker will adjust his line to attract bets on SF to cover himself and reduce the damage if the bets on the two teams aren't balanced.

The fact that the odds on candidates flips doesn't mean that candidate now has a better chance of winning, it means that the bookmakers are protecting themselves against an overwhelming financial loss.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
15. So in that case the bookies here are hanging odds to reflect heavy betting on Bernie, right?
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 04:20 PM
Jan 2020

I mean if the line moved towards Bernie being the favorite, that's making it more attractive to Biden bettors. So that would mean that before the move, they probably had more Bernie bets than Biden bets, so they moved it to attract more bets for Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
9. RCP's betting odds page, check the graph:
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jan 2020
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/democratic_2020_nomination/


You'll notice Warren was waaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead...until she wasn't.


Harris isn't shown on that graph, but here's a DU thread about her surge in the betting markets in late June:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287178395


Bet on the betting markets' accuracy as political predictors at your own risk.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

David__77

(23,423 posts)
10. I found that interesting.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 02:33 PM
Jan 2020

I hadn’t looked at that site since around the 2018 election. There were markets for the outcome of several California seats that Democrats ultimately won during the long vote count.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
11. Backlash from the Warren attack? The Joe Rogan endorsement? Poll momentum?
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jan 2020

I don't know, but it's certainly interesting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
16. I'll bet money there are outside forces at work. nt
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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