None of them that I have seen support Bernie Sanders.

Now it must be recognized...

I taught in the Chicago Public High Schools, and was called a lot of things by lots of students and teachers..
I saw things you cannot believe, and was attacked 3 times. .........BUT...AND BUT IS NOT...

I HAVE NEVER BEEN CALLED a......................................coinkydink

They weren't calling you a name.

Every few days somewhere in the numerous discussions on DU on many topics, there are new words for me. I often have to look them up. So I learn new words in addition to new information

........What a show!!!!

Bernie will not win. McGovern did not win. He lost by a record amount. He was a terrible candidate.

If McGovern had won, he would have saved thousands of lives and gotten us out of Viet Nam much earlier. Isn't saving lives important?

But McGovern lost, and lost big. Bernie is exactly the same. Bernie promotes division by his personality and how he presents issues. You don't see it, because ..........you don't see it. You are a believer. I was one too. Not this time..Biden can win....Here is why......................

Every single time the Name Biden is mention, most of this country will think of Trump trying to get dirt on Biden's son......It is an automatic.........................................................................
.............................................................................................................................
...............TRUMP IS A CROOK!!!!!

We don't need a discussion on issues. We need an automatic...thought of 60 percent, that TRUMP IS A CROOK AND NEEDS TO GO automatic thought...vote against the crook...Everyone knows he is a crook. We need absolute certainty that he goes. BIDEN IS THAT CERTAINTY..

We were devastated, especially being it was Richard Nixon who won by a landslide.

I agree Joe is a uniter and always has been. He is the right person for this time.

I would like to hear more about Biden's policies. Not who he and his supporters hate.

Work on conveying Biden's message. Although I was unnerved by his 1980s version of Democratic hedging, I'll listen if you can show me what his new views are.

And Biden could get it done.

What kind of coal tuitions?

especially given how Bidens supporters are so wrapped up n 2016 , they seem accepting even eager to throw certain votes away.

...is leading with 30% of the vote and there are about 11 other candidates, no other candidate is even close to "leading".

every other candidate has "united [at least] 70 percent" of Democrats behind other candidates.

The percentage is higher than that for all of the other candidates.

You get that, right?

To restate, your argument would make every other candidate look worse.

Good thing for them that it's a silly, meaningless assertion.

By the same logic, every other candidate has united more than 70% of Democrats against them.

By the same logic, Sanders has united 77% of voters against him.

Go Bernie!

This also splains Bernie's surge in the polls and, as he picks up primary and caucus wins, why he'll continue to unite many more voters who make up the Democratic coalition, as well as a broad swath of Independents. Bernie will surely go down in history as the "Great Uniter"... count on it!!

It's Bernie's progressive vision that voters are glomming onto like a magnet... the more that voters unite under the ever-growing "Bernie Banner," Bernie will continue to attract even more supporters. To put it another way, Bernie is a train that continues to chug along, and the more passengers that jump on board, the more it gathers steam.

There's no stopping the "Bernie Train"... and once Elizabeth joins the team, the country will most certainly unite like never before, with a common purpose of throwing President Shitstain out of office!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

No reason for me to read on. Thanks!

The division post seem to have the same group of supporters...hmm I wonder why that is? lol.

And there were a lot of dirty tricks played by the Nixon campaign.

I'm not a fan of political dirty-tricksters. Never have been.

elections and GOP administrations. They're like an infestation of vermin.

https://swampland.time.com/2012/01/19/top-10-dirty-political-tricks-2/slide/donald-segretti-and-the-nixon-gang/

He was a good man and a fine liberal Democrat.

He was smeared.

He’s kinda bad at it.

I agree. How do you unite when you're not even a member of the party?

Some of the most heated threads here are with respect to this outsider standing. Whether or not they are accurate is irrelevant. They divide us into Democrats and Bernie supporters.

unite it...YEAH OK.

I think it's stupid to think he can unite when he's on record with his very negative, counter-productive opinions about the Democratic party.

Bernie is my Senator... that is good...

it would not be good to choose him as our nominee... I sincerely hope he does not win the nomination because I believe he will not win against trump

Sorry, but that is a bit presumptuous and I think that type of thinking is very dangerous...

I am still undecided and lean Biden. I will say this election is not a slam dunk for anyone. We saw what that type of thinking did in 2016. Whomever wins the primary will get my vote but I don't think his disapproval rate is anything to hang our hats on...

This will be a close election.

About Biden. I fear millions of young voters and independents who want systemic change sitting the GE out if Biden if the nominee.

I find it unlikely that those who want change will sit out the general election for any reason. If the alternative means four more years of Donald Trump? Seriously? Its unlikely our democracy will survive it.

Welcome to DU!

Just like everyone did in 2016, right?

When are folks going to wake up to the fact that people are not simply going to vote
Against Trump? They didn't in 16, they won't now.

If the candidate stinks they'll stay home, or vote 3rd party, just like 16.

The days of lesser of 2 evil is past. "I'm not Trump", isn't a winning platform.

2016 should have been the wake up call but clearly some folks need more, convincing.

Would be willing to vote for Sanders. Both were seen as a change from the status quo. Many people were so tired of the status quo that they were willing to take a chance on any type of change, even if the change might end up in disaster. Sanders satisfies that desire for change but in a positive way, not trump's toxic rabble rousing.

People can now see the consequences of either not voting or voting for a third party candidate. I know someone who did the latter and that person is extremely remorseful and will never do it again.

This is NOT like 2016. People have lived with Trump in the White House for three years and that is ample motivation for anyone who is paying attention to make sure they cast a vote that will end this nightmare. There may be a handful of people who will do something stupid, but not enough to sway the election. Once again, this is not a rerun of 2016.

Trump, if he can, is going to make this a base election. You know they are going smear Biden even more andnuse false quivalency. Only one major candidate expands the voter base. Don't take the "Bernie can't win because he'll be painted as a socialist". That line only works with those >40.

the nominee, he would tear him to shreds. Bernie may be a strong primary candidate, but I don't see him as a strong general election candidate. I know far too many Democrats who honestly can't stand him. Myself, I've always liked Bernie, as an activist and advocate, but I never for a single moment saw him as a president. Sadly, after watching how he and his staff campaign, my admiration for Bernie is fading. I really thought the man had more integrity.

That said, Bernie brings a lot of important issues to the table and I think he has helped to pull our party more to the left. However, I don't see him as the person to bring about the progressive changes he advocates. Implementing change takes a skill set and negotiating expertise that Sanders does not seem to possess.

I'm sure they will learn.

indeed I do

It is only January, we have a long way to go.

I feel really sad and disheartened that Democrats who are all on the liberal side of the center have been polarized and made tribal to this extent; only for the ambitions and ego of one man who won't be able to deliver even 0.1% of his promises.

Status quo doesn't win elections and incrementalism doesn't save the planet or our Democracy.

That's all.

We've done 'moderate' for decades. It's time for a new playbook.

I was a rabid McGovern supporter, did some work on his campaign. In my young naive mind there was no way he wasn't going to win. Those election returns told me in no uncertain terms just how incredibly naive and inexperienced I really was. That night changed my thinking forever. Americans never vote for radical revolutiobs. They want stability and some sense of certainty. If faced with a choice between trump and Sanders, I'm afraid we'll see another result like we did with Nixon vs McGovern. Republicans are very experienced in exploiting candidates like Sander, and exploit him they will.

Knew McGovern didn't have a chance. That election was a forgone conclusion from the start.

I was a naive 22yr old fresh out of the Army and have to admit I was so naive that I never saw it coming.

Weird how no one wants to acknowledge that.

He might have even more crossover support from recently defected ex-Democrats like Jesse Helms.

Yeah, I'm a new member, but thought I had seen many on here saying the same thing.
"The fight's against Trump, not each other!"
But that's clearly not happening.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it seem like infighting--while telling others not to--is more of just a hobby for many here?

As a Biden supporter, do you think your post unites Democrats or divides us? A sizeable number of people respect, admire and support Bernie and wish him to be a candidate. Uniting would be respecting those people. I do not favor Joe Biden as our candidate but understand the reasoning and respect those who do.

You seem to divide us differently and then say its only others who divide. It is too bad is all I can say that posts like your original post are so prominent rather than posts the respect other groups in the Democratic Party.

You said it perfectly!

Bernie is a uniter testified by his very presence now. He is up in the polls by the people most likely inspired by his recognition of their desperate condition. The people forced to live paycheck to paycheck because their jobs were sold overseas and their future is locked in massive trusts and foundations. Organizations that exist to protect billionaire’s money by claiming service to the poor and impoverished forced into those conditions by the trillions of dollars hoarded in those very organizations.

candidates..I will send some money to any of our candidates who is our nominee We must get rid of Trump. Sooner the better, but at least in November.

Does the DNC fund it?

Biden's party loves to hate. Why is that?

It was meant to tell the truth. The original post is what I believe. Again, I will support our nominee, whoever he or she is!!.

Nice to see people realize Bernie can actually win the nom!!

these types of threads every time Bernie jumps again in polls in strategic states. I'll bet there would be a correlation.

Dysfunctional much?

The OP is divisive and should not even be allowed here.

an actual discussion... Even if it hurts your feelings.

We see too much of this and it's not helpful.

Although completely different politically, I see Bernie as the Joe Lieberman of this primary season. That is to say, I will vote for him in the GE if he's the nominee, but he is literally my LAST choice.

HOPE to fundamentally CHANGE the laws the 1% paid for, to laws written of, by, and for the people, or 99%.

I Hope to give the 100millon who didn't bother to vote SOMETHING to vote FOR !!!

Election results 2016:
Shitler 63 million
Clinton 66 million
People who had no Hope that the long overdue CHANGE we need, would be attempted...
Could have voted but didn't..
100 million that's right 100 million

Nobody won, and we all lost
Just like last several wars, and the next one too.

Like Cruz, Bernie elevates himself by attacking his would be allies.

A seemingly contrary viewpoint...

https://mobile.twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1221653106791997446

His name was George W. Bush... He claimed to be a "uniter, not a divider." A lot of people would have felt comfortable having a beer with him, until they wouldn't.

I'm not comparing any of our other candidates to him (obviously), just saying that demeanor isn't everything.

The point is that his demeanor was a lot different than Bernie's, and it meant nothing in the end.

He could possibly be taken seriously by more than his dreaming idealists...

He is born to be an antagonist with socialist tendencies...

At any time in any place.

To begin - I posted this earlier in discussion about Bernie and his outreach to white working class and his belief that class trumps race and that white and black working class will join together to overthrow the oligarchs. Or the Democrats. Probably Democrats.


Bernie Sanders still says class is more important than race. He is still wrong

Sanders spoke about the need to move ‘beyond identity politics,’ apparently not recognizing that this is impossible in America

<snip>

"It appears that in the aftermath of a monumental but nonetheless failed presidential campaign, Bernie Sanders remains most comfortable in the spot that made him a loser: trying to separate class and race.

Sanders has never been wrong about the damaging roles establishment politics and economics play in the lives of millions of Americans. Even so, he’s long struggled with acknowledging that focusing on class alone won’t make this country better for many who are struggling. That the revolution cannot be colorblind if it were to truly make this country better for all of the disenfranchised.

At a speech in Boston on Sunday, the Vermont senator advocated “go[ing] beyond identity politics,” declaring, “The working class of this country is being decimated — that’s why Donald Trump won. And what we need now are candidates who stand with those working people, who understand that real median family income has gone down.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/22/bernie-sanders-identity-politics-class-race-debate


Then stuff about the kibbutz in Israel where went after college and got his ideas and some communism.

Kept name of kibbutz secret. Israeli newspapers outed him.

"Now that Bernie Sanders has become a serious candidate for president, it is inevitable that the media will pay attention to every aspect of his life. In 1963, when Sanders traveled to Israel to work on a kibbutz there were scores of American Jewish students who also volunteered. So it is rather strange that Sanders has consistently refused to tell the press about his time there and the kibbutz he worked on. When asked, he and his campaign dodged the issue."

"She acknowledges that Sanders’ time there might be when he “apparently sharpened his socialist ideals a half-century ago.” Zeveloff adds that they “had a strong admiration for the Communist system in the Soviet Union.” They heard about the Soviet gulags, but considered that news to be false reports from renegades. No wonder they proudly flew a red flag at outdoor kibbutz events. We also learn that relatively few people volunteered at the kibbutzim affiliated with Hashomer Hatzair before 1967, making Sanders’ 1963 visitation a rare exception among American volunteers."

"A key part of Borochovian ideology was that the Arab and Jewish working classes had a common proletarian interest and would participate in the class struggle together once Jews had returned to Palestine."

"...in Palestine in speeches towards the end of his life. Borochov insisted that he was a Social Democrat..."

"Borochov's vision of class struggle in Palestine was widely viewed as untenable by the 1910s..." "himself seemed to repudiate his former vision of class struggle in Palestine in speeches towards the end of his life. Borochov insisted that he was a Social Democrat..."

And, look who he hired as top staff.

That was in December thru beginning of January. Bernie down 5 points since then. Ooops.

One of the main attacks got blown up yesterday with Bernie's support of the crime bill exposed. Before it was Biden's sole fault.

Also: 'why did Bernie chain a black woman to himself."



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3 years of attacks, smears and insults against the most progressive senator in America, and then you try and blame him for ‘dividing’ us.

Bullshit.

Anybody can look that up.

Klobuchar has won big in Minnesota counties that went from Obama to Trump. She would do well in debates with Trump, too, making him appear as absurd as he is, and she has an unmatched record of getting things done in the senate with bipartisan support.

Amy gets things done because she listens and thinks before she talks.

not his supporters.

I mean, just look at the Joe Rogan endorsement for example. He's certainly not part of the Democratic Base by any possible stretch, and yet he admires Bernie's consistency and even has endorsed things like single payer after hearing from him.

to them but because what he is saying is what they like. His message hasn't changed, he's not pandering, he's not promising them anything. They like what he has to say.

I'ts about us, not me.

unite the party and the country shows Biden way ahead of Sanders.

There are polls showing Bernie ahead. Dems aren't the only ones who will be voting and the primaries are not over yet.