When he repeatedly voted against the Brady Bill and voted immunity for gun makers.

Of course, it seems that you are just admitting that when it comes Bernie's Health Care plan, he has no idea what it costs and whether it is feasible, which is even worse than an Iraq War vote, since Bernie's plan has cost estimates of 60 trillion, which is more than 30 times greater than the cost of the Iraq War.

Millions, certainly. Perhaps all of them.

Mass shootings kill a couple hundred Americans a year and no legislation will have any significant impact on that.

Gun control kills everything. The whole agenda, possibly the whole planet.

If that's what you're wondering.Don't forget the at least half million deaths as well. The f35 can't even fly, so we can't really hold it accountable for many casualties, to be fair.

This is like Trump ducking a question on his health care non-proposal by saying, what about Bill Clinton's affair!!!

This is just an admission that Bernie's health care plan does not fly, because they are trying change the subject.

What can I say, Bernie could have made a better call on that one. But it's still not as bad as voting for the death and destruction of an entire country leading to the deaths of half a million people and more than 2 trillion dollars wasted.

Studies aside, it is always best error on the side of compassion. A modern nation wanting to be progressive, dynamic, and moral has universal healthcare coverage for all of its people. Healthcare free of privateers and greed-addled insurance companies slopping myopic shareholders across the spectrum of healthcare industries, shareholders slavering for their share of the fetid healthcare-for-profit grind in the trough.

Fact.

However, the cost of a government program can be calculated exactly by experts IF the plan is fully formed and detailed. All Bernie has is a slogan and a wishlist - no program, no plan, no policy.... nada, zilch, zippo

The one thing we know for sure is that we as taxpayers will be likely paying less than what we already pay for our own health insurance. We also know that unlike now, all people will be provided healthcare. To deny we should be pursuing that is reckless.

But I get it... to a lot of people, it's all just a game and both irrelevancies and logical fallacies are part of that game.

Bear in mind though, a lot of us take this much more seriously and find that flippancy such as yours does reflects very poorly upon your candidate.

Amazing, indeed.

elected, but he wasn’t pure enough, either.

and how it will be paid for:

1) Other countries do it.

2) No one asks how much wars are going to cost.

Not really satisfying answers when one desires to radically transform healthcare in this country.

Not serious. Not vettable. Not a "plan" we can run on and win.

vote for a candidate that can’t tell us the cost, how much it will cost the average Jane, or without having a chance to try it out (think, Public Option).

In less than a month, Warren went from a cost of what we spend now for healthcare, roughly $3.5 Trillion per year, to $5.2 Trillion. The latter is more than 5 times the annual defense budget plus the total annual direct loss revenue of the last unadvisable trump tax cut.

We are going to have to better than that to get something decent enacted, or even supportive candidates elected.

She acknowledged the estimate of her healthcare plan, and conceded that Joe, Amy and Pete's plans cost less, but she argued that they do less, though she agreed that they would improve healthcare. Thus, it was a real policy choice.

Bernie just paints things in you either are either with me or against me terms or he tosses out a distraction about some other topic like the post above trying to move the discussion of the Iraq war, because that is really relevant to whether Bernie's healthcare plan works.

I think the reluctance to have an honest discussion about his policies is troubling. Instead, Bernie simply attacks candidates without really trying to explain or justify his own policies.

Everyone has one.

This is why his "proposals" largely seem aspirational, rather than an agenda that can be implemented. It is Trump-like in that it is dishonest, because the people are not being informed about their government. For example, Trump pumped tax cuts and breezily said they would pay for themselves. Yet, while they are stimulating the economy, the budget deficit is exploding during a period of economic growth, which is crazy. Normally, the deficit grows during recessions, as tax revenues fall and people lose their jobs.

There is a BIG difference between Warren and Sanders.

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Bernie gets a free pass on how his platform actually fits together. He might as well say, build a wall and make Mexico pay for it. Bernie's agenda is nothing more than a laundry list of left sounding talking points.

This is another silly attack.

Bernie Sanders would get bogged down in fighting for Medicare for all, as opposed to the more realistic goal of Healthcare for all. This would take away from other important goals for which there might be some bipartisan support: childhood poverty, voter registration, mass incarceration, education inequality, ...

Again sanders has no legislative accomplishments. There is no way that sanders can get this bill passed

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...he really has no clue. Neither alternative is attractive. Both alternatives seem almost Trump like in terms of not knowing the details of his policies or just not telling the truth about the impact of such policies.

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Maybe they just like the sound of promises.

sanders cannot adopt any of his proposals in the real world.

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