Democratic Primaries

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts) Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:25 PM Jan 2020

It's no secret that we're taking on the political establishment and the big money interests,

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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It's no secret that we're taking on the political establishment and the big money interests, (Original Post) Uncle Joe Jan 2020 OP

and we should be very skeptical of anything that establishment say about Sanders booley Jan 2020 #1

I am skeptical of anything Bernie has to say about the Democratic party establishment. comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #3

that could be part of the problem to be frank booley Jan 2020 #6

I also want Trump out and I seriously doubt that Bernie is the man to do it. comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #11

+1 CentralMass Jan 2020 #27

So I guess a man who has been in DC for almost 30 years and has held office.... George II Jan 2020 #2

Clealry you guys dont booley Jan 2020 #7

Nobody mentioned anything about whether or not he's a Democrat..... George II Jan 2020 #21

It's all about the policies that elevate the average American Person's needs over Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #9

Yes! BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #32

Don't forget the elites !! UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #4

For Heaven Sake, He Is The Political Establishment Me. Jan 2020 #5

A Socialist Is The Establishment? corbettkroehler Jan 2020 #10

You win the Internet today. Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #13

He Sure Doesn't Mind Collecting All THe Money He Can Me. Jan 2020 #14

That's just one more thing that is so great about Bernie, Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #15

OMG, Me. Jan 2020 #19

The last resort for someone with no logical rebuttal. n/t Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #20

There Is No Rebuttal For Sheer Flummery Me. Jan 2020 #25

"Bernie literally believes in "leave no one behind"" - I disagree but won't elaborate here. George II Jan 2020 #24

He's not a socialist. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #16

I Defy You To Name One American Critic Of Sanders Using The European Definition Of Socialist corbettkroehler Jan 2020 #17

. George II Jan 2020 #23

Wait for it if he is the nominee. emmaverybo Jan 2020 #26

Having You Admit That Possibility Sure Makes Me Smile corbettkroehler Jan 2020 #28

I believe him when he tells me what he is. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #18

A career politician is "the establishment". George II Jan 2020 #22

A millionaire career politician is by definition, the Establishment. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #31

???????? Quixote1818 Jan 2020 #12

Always the victim... SidDithers Jan 2020 #8

A career politician plays martyr and pretends he's anti-establishment. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #29

I know, right?! -nt Amimnoch Jan 2020 #30

booley

(3,855 posts)

1. and we should be very skeptical of anything that establishment say about Sanders

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:27 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

comradebillyboy

(10,154 posts)

3. I am skeptical of anything Bernie has to say about the Democratic party establishment.

Reply to booley (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:39 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

booley

(3,855 posts)

6. that could be part of the problem to be frank

Reply to comradebillyboy (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:42 PM

Jan 2020

and probably won't get us many new voters.

I can't speak for you but I want to get Trump out of the White House

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

comradebillyboy

(10,154 posts)

11. I also want Trump out and I seriously doubt that Bernie is the man to do it.

Reply to booley (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:47 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)

27. +1

Reply to booley (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

2. So I guess a man who has been in DC for almost 30 years and has held office....

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:33 PM

Jan 2020

....for more than half his life doesn't consider himself part of the "political establishment"?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

booley

(3,855 posts)

7. Clealry you guys dont

Reply to George II (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:43 PM

Jan 2020

Don't even consider him a Democrat even though the Democrats have been treating him like one for those 30 years.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

21. Nobody mentioned anything about whether or not he's a Democrat.....

Reply to booley (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:06 PM

Jan 2020

....he's part of the "political establishment" or worse, the "ruling class"!!!

See how that comes back to bite someone who has been railing against groups all the while one of them?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)

9. It's all about the policies that elevate the average American Person's needs over

Reply to George II (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:45 PM

Jan 2020

those of the oligarchs and mega-corporations.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)

32. Yes!

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:00 PM

Jan 2020

I mean those post offices didn’t name themselves!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)

4. Don't forget the elites !!

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:42 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Me.

(35,454 posts)

5. For Heaven Sake, He Is The Political Establishment

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:42 PM

Jan 2020

is he taking on himself?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)

10. A Socialist Is The Establishment?

Reply to Me. (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:46 PM

Jan 2020

Please explain.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)

13. You win the Internet today.

Reply to corbettkroehler (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:52 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Me.

(35,454 posts)

14. He Sure Doesn't Mind Collecting All THe Money He Can

Reply to corbettkroehler (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:54 PM

Jan 2020

big salary, good health care, 3 mil to run his office, big pension waiting, a driver ...I'd say he's living well under the so-called establishment he rails against. I wonder what his charitable donations are now that he's a millionaire.

And Ps. He's been in the senate for over 30 years...what has he done, really to change it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)

15. That's just one more thing that is so great about Bernie,

Reply to Me. (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:58 PM

Jan 2020

he's not comfortable with our dysfunctional status quo despite his own personal success.

Bernie literally believes in "leave no one behind" something too many others in government have been quick to forget.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Me.

(35,454 posts)

19. OMG,

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:05 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)

20. The last resort for someone with no logical rebuttal. n/t

Reply to Me. (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:06 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Me.

(35,454 posts)

25. There Is No Rebuttal For Sheer Flummery

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:27 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

24. "Bernie literally believes in "leave no one behind"" - I disagree but won't elaborate here.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:10 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)

16. He's not a socialist.

Reply to corbettkroehler (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:01 PM

Jan 2020

Certainly not in the European sense. Europeans consider him just another center-left regulated capitalist and scoff at his claims of being a socialist. He certainly isn't calling for the overthrow of capitalism like the DSA is.

It's always been a bit of a misnomer, and I'm not sure why he ever self-identified as such. Of course, he later added "democratic" to the term, but he's no more of a socialist now than he ever was.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)

17. I Defy You To Name One American Critic Of Sanders Using The European Definition Of Socialist

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:03 PM

Jan 2020

Sorry but your argument holds as much water as a highly decorative sieve!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

23. .

Reply to corbettkroehler (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:09 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)

26. Wait for it if he is the nominee.

Reply to corbettkroehler (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:37 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)

28. Having You Admit That Possibility Sure Makes Me Smile

Reply to emmaverybo (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:49 PM

Jan 2020

I'll worry about the rest the day after Super Tuesday when Sanders has secure the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)

18. I believe him when he tells me what he is.

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:04 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

22. A career politician is "the establishment".

Reply to corbettkroehler (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:07 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

31. A millionaire career politician is by definition, the Establishment.

Reply to corbettkroehler (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:59 PM

Jan 2020

regardless of commercial branding and faux-hipster-revolutionaries who pretend otherwise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Quixote1818

(28,946 posts)

12. ????????

Reply to Me. (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:49 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)

8. Always the victim...

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:43 PM

Jan 2020

Sid

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

29. A career politician plays martyr and pretends he's anti-establishment.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:56 PM

Jan 2020

That is some really great commercial branding, good copy, and very effective re-packaging of a consummate career politician judging by the number of people who are buying this particular bill of goods.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)

30. I know, right?! -nt

Reply to LanternWaste (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:58 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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