...and scared...

...

for being a socialist-fascist (yes, I know) traitor, and whatever is in the several phony "scandals" Judicial Watch alone has already designed, ready to put the finishing touches on and launch.

Do a little search on Sanders and Marxist, traitor, fascist, Nazi, bum, etc to see what kind of stuff comes up. What's out there now is nothing to what you won't have to be frightened about.

myohmy2 (1,426 posts)

25. I'm afraid...

...you may be right...

" It just "looks bad" that Biden was in charge of Ukraine policy and then his son was hired for this job. "

...that's a shame...
..
has trump 'dirtied' the Biden Name?

...what do you think?

...I don't think trump or the republicans have so far...

...but then again, who knows?

oh boy...

"... Pam Bondi and Eric Herschmann spent a significant portion of their time on the Senate floor arguing that Biden should be investigated for corruption. "

...this is not looking good...

...I'm worried.

...seriously, I don't get it...


...Bernie's climbing in the polls?

...she's favoring someone other than Bernie?

...vengeance?

...bad blood?

...I'm worried

..you know, division can only help trump...

...why do you think Hillary would try to kneecap Bernie now?

...I really would like to know.

oh boy...

...there is no 'together'...

...half the country hates the other half...

...it's been like that for decades...

...get real

I can only say that the unflappable moral character of Joe Biden is as good a defense as any!!

with the fact that Hunter had the job that was a conflict of interest. It makes whatever they come out with more believable.

What was his conflict of interest?

What matters most is what the voters think. It is at the very least an appearance of a conflict of interest.

a conflict of interest or is it that Hunter's job was a conflict of interest for Joe? Either way I don't see what the supposed conflict is.

Joe was personally engaged with the country of Ukraine on matters of corruption at the same time that Hunter was on the board of Burisma, a major energy company in Ukraine that was under scrutiny for corruption.

of Burisma long before Joe had anything to do with Ukraine?

as reported in the Christian Science Monitor May 14, 2014! This presupposes that Joe Biden should have somehow made his adult (45 year old) son quit his job with the Burisma board solely because Dad much later took on a one-time assignment in Ukraine at President Obama's request. It's a ludicrous argument that appeals only to those people who are either unable or unwilling to examine the facts and is really nothing more than a part of a Trump-ordered Rethuglican swift-boating of Biden.

What will voters think? Those whose neurons have collapsed by constantly listening/viewing to Faux News, OAN, Brietbart, Rush etc. will swallow it, believe it unquestioningly and repeat it on cue (much like trained seals). I believe those voters who are not intellectually challenged will give it the credence it deserves - zero.

have the authority (and clout) to lay down the law to Ukraine's (then) leader than the Vice President? And, speaking practically, I can't quite imagine walking into the Oval Office and telling the President "Geez, Boss I'm really sorry but I can't take on that prestigious assignment because my grown kid works there".

What the Republicans are masters at is taking a situation that doesn't look good and blowing it up into something that it really isn't. If Biden gets the nomination, the best thing that he can do is aggressively counter the information calling it another Trump lie. He should not do what Kerry did which was to ignore it and never tie it directly to Bush. He can't make the situation go away.

RDANGELO (2,365 posts)

He would make a good president, but it does you no good if you can't get there.

He has a reputation for this.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=42000

And the Dotard is hardly in a position to use this.

RDANGELO (2,365 posts)

If this is going to be an issue, it's better for it to come out now then the general election.

Maybe the accusations from Flores are politically motivated; maybe they are not. This is just the day after the first allegation. Lets see what happens. It occurs to me that there are probably more women who felt violated by his behavior. Maybe I am wrong. The worst thing that could happen is that he gets the nomination and it explodes into a big issue.

It appears that he has done more than just hugging.

RDANGELO (2,365 posts)

People can tell the difference to when there is nothing there or whether there is, or whether there

is a conflict of interest.

Nt

Hunter has pointed out, he ain't stupid you know, any job he would ever have had would be conflict of interest seeing that his Dad was VP of the US and the US had influence over just about everything. Any job. Any. Any job could be considered conflict. OK?

Nothing there. You're chasing your tail.

RDANGELO (2,365 posts)

"don't think Joe Biden did anything wrong, but I am worried that Giuliani is going to get these former Ukrainian officials to make things up. He is getting money from somewhere, possibly the Russians. Is he using that to bribe them? The Republicans are ruthless, they don't care if it's true or not, as long as it can be believed. Maybe the best thing that could happen is that Rudy gets indicted soon and gets thrown in jail.

With Hunter Biden working for Burisma, you have the appearance of a conflict of interest which they a can build on, and that makes if more believable than something that is completely made up."


https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287373836

Concern trolling involves someone opposing an idea or viewpoint, yet acting like they’re an advocate for the cause. A concern troll offers undermining criticisms under the guise of concern. Their goal is to sabotage the cause being discussed, and to inspire doubt among group members. This occurs in groups rallied around a particular issue, especially in political parties, and the goal of concern trolling is to cause dissent within a community.

Haven't had a tag team in a while.

Rudy is doing Joe McCarthy and his list of ___ subversives. That's all. There is no evidence to find. Nothing they can cook up.

Old Rudy has gone around the bend and ain't coming back. He came back from Ukraine in early December and has yet to show a single piece of evidence. Because there is none. This is the guy you're worrying about. LOL


Fox and Friends host tries to cut off Rudy Giuliani as he spins more Ukraine conspiracies

"Rudy Giuliani breathlessly uncorked new conspiracy theories about Joe Biden’s activity in Ukraine, as nervous “Fox and Friends” hosts tried to cut him off.

President Donald Trump’s personal attorney appeared Friday morning on Fox News, where he expanded on the conspiracies that form the heart of the impeachment case against the president.

“All of a sudden Biden has announced the most important guy in Ukraine, he is going to give out the money, then he hires Biden’s son,” Giuliani said. “Do you know what happened in between? He made a deal with Biden, you be on board against (former president Petro) Poroshenko taking my company, when they move to take the company. That’s when Biden came in and had the prosecutor fired, and within four months the crooked oligarch sitting with $5 billion comes back to the Ukraine, he is not prosecuted. He is sitting there fat and happy with his company.”


Co-host Steve Doocy persistently tried to cut Giuliani off to ask a question, but the president’s lawyer continued ranting anti-Biden conspiracies.

Then we have got another bribe,” he said. “You don’t think the president of the Ukraine shared in that $5 billion that the crook kept?”

“The bribe to the president of the Ukraine, the amount of money I can’t be absolutely sure of,” Giuliani said, stumbling enough to allow Doocy to finally cut in. “Let’s say well in excess of $10 million.”

Doocy tried to redirect Giuliani, who regained his footing.

“That shouldn’t be revealed?” Giuliani said. “From a lawyer who finds out about this? Am I going to cover it up the way the Democrats and media cover it up? Absolutely not. I prosecuted too many corruption cases to sit by and watch my country sold out by a vice president who did it two other times, at least, in China.”

Co-host Ainsley Earhardt asked how the saga would end, and Giuliani said he hoped Biden would land under investigation.

“You don’t think if these things were said about Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr. they wouldn’t be under investigation immediately?” Giuliani said. “Instead of putting them under investigation, they are coming after me. They want to kill me.”

Doocy nervously interrupted, and asked when Giuliani would provide proof of his claims.

“Today at noon I will give an introduction,” he said. “Starting next week I will present witnesses, I have them all on tape. We will reveal one at a time, we will show there were two bribes. Not one, actually three.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rudy-giuliani-spins-wild-ukraine-conspiracies-as-fox-friends-hosts-desperately-try-to-cut-him-off/

That was 5 days ago. Still nothing. Like Joe McCarthy and his list of ever changing numbers of subversives, it never existed too. He's doing Joe..

Kinda takes the air outta the concern.

the "media" and #45IMPEACHED will have tons to UNLOAD on whomever the nom is.