Democratic Primaries

lapucelle

(18,268 posts) Wed Jan 29, 2020, 06:35 AM Jan 2020

Progressives say Perez's list of DNC nominees is loaded with enemies like Barney Frank & B. Sellers

Look who breathlessly "broke the story" replete with outrage about Democrats being named to serve on DNC committees.

Kevin Gosztola, managing editor of Shadowproof, sparked a flurry of responses when he shared Perez's list on social media Saturday afternoon.

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Gosztola's Twitter thread delved into the backgrounds of a number of candidates, including Bakari Sellers, a frequent CNN commentator nominated to sit on the Platform Committee.

https://www.salon.com/2020/01/27/are-tom-perez-and-the-dnc-preparing-for-a-battle-against-bernie-sanders-and-the-left_partner/

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So who exactly is Kevin Gosztola?

Gosztola is a Jill Stein cheerleader and voter who in 2012 referred to POTUS as "the allegedly first Black Commander in Chief his own self, Barack Obama."

For some reason this Jill Stein acolyte thinks he's entitled to have a say in determining Democratic Party committee appointments.

Your Vote For Jill Stein Is Not A Wasted Vote
21 Sep 2016
Kevin Gosztola

https://shadowproof.com/2016/09/21/vote-jill-stein-not-wasted-vote/

Gosztola is adept at selling the right wing's "Democratic Party-rigged system" narrative as well.

Democratic Party Elites Rig 2020 Convention Committees Against Sanders

https://shadowproof.com/2020/01/27/democratic-party-elites-rig-2020-convention-committees-against-sanders/

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Gosztola has a long history of being anti-Democrat and anti-Democratic Party. Here's what he had to say about President Obama' appearance at Nelson Mandela's funeral:

For the last couple of days, the corporate media has been a-gushing about Nelson Mandela, what a wonderful man he was, what an example for the ages he is, complete with a grotesquely pandering speech from the allegedly first Black Commander in Chief his own self, Barack Obama. I saw Colin Powell on one of the morning shows almost swooning as he described watching, “through the eyes of a soldier,” the white South African military chiefs escorting Mandela to the podium after he was elected President of South Africa.

https://shadowproof.com/2013/12/07/theres-a-reason-capitalists-like-obama-are-mourning-mandela/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Progressives say Perez's list of DNC nominees is loaded with enemies like Barney Frank & B. Sellers (Original Post) lapucelle Jan 2020 OP

"Gosztola is a Jill Stein cheerleader and voter who in 2012 referred to POTUS as "the allegedly.. Cha Jan 2020 #1

Here we go again Cha :( denem Jan 2020 #3

"Progressives"???? As opposed to Barney Frank and Bakari Sellers? pnwmom Jan 2020 #2

Apparently Frank is "not progressive enough" for the people who don't know his record. lapucelle Jan 2020 #5

Barney doesn't like Cha Jan 2020 #6

NO, NOT facts! Just too early in the morning for truth. Hortensis Jan 2020 #17

Thank you lapucelle ! denem Jan 2020 #4

IOW Gosztola had so credibiltiy whatsoever. Cha Jan 2020 #7

I don't understand why anyone still listens to that clown. ramen Jan 2020 #11

Of course he doesn't. He's a flake job who doesn't belong Hortensis Jan 2020 #19

K&R betsuni Jan 2020 #8

Your headline is exactly what the media is saying. Jakes Progress Jan 2020 #9

Bernie has Stein supporters as key staff. nt MH1 Jan 2020 #21

I can't see how progressives want him. Jakes Progress Jan 2020 #37

Kevin Gosztola apparently wanted to post a "big scoop"... Sloumeau Jan 2020 #10

Supported Jill Stein and Disparaged Barack Obama. Huh. CousinIT Jan 2020 #12

These people are trying to tea party the Democrats. Let's not let them. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #13

It seems all but inevitable at this point. redqueen Jan 2020 #27

Perhpas inevitable...but that doesn't mean now. Each generation is getting more liberal UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #31

can we just start calling this particular strip of Sanders supporter what they are? wyldwolf Jan 2020 #14

Oooh, great links! Spot on. R B Garr Jan 2020 #36

Thanks for providing this background. brer cat Jan 2020 #15

No Offense DownriverDem Jan 2020 #16

A Nobel laureate economist once said Barney Frank was Hortensis Jan 2020 #18

Which Nobel laureate, out of curiosity? DanTex Jan 2020 #22

Sorry, tried to remember, but too long ago. Hortensis Jan 2020 #24

Barney Frank is an enemy of progressives? Jose Garcia Jan 2020 #20

Barney Frank doesn't like BS Cha Jan 2020 #25

I think that began the other way around, BS doesn't like Barney Frank. I'll take Frank any day. George II Jan 2020 #29

who wouldn't like Barney Cha Jan 2020 #30

"loaded with enemies" mcar Jan 2020 #23

lol ! stonecutter357 Jan 2020 #26

Great Find!!!!! sheshe2 Jan 2020 #28

Thanks OP for this still_one Jan 2020 #32

... lapucelle Jan 2020 #33

........ still_one Jan 2020 #34

Another day, another whine. NCProgressive Jan 2020 #35

Cha

(297,292 posts)

1. "Gosztola is a Jill Stein cheerleader and voter who in 2012 referred to POTUS as "the allegedly..

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 06:54 AM

Jan 2020

first Black Commander in Chief his own self, Barack Obama.""

Fuck off to the jill stein pushers and RF..

Thank you for this, lapucelle.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

denem

(11,045 posts)

3. Here we go again Cha :(

Reply to Cha (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:07 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)

2. "Progressives"???? As opposed to Barney Frank and Bakari Sellers?

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:04 AM

Jan 2020

We don't need progressives like that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

lapucelle

(18,268 posts)

5. Apparently Frank is "not progressive enough" for the people who don't know his record.

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:18 AM

Jan 2020

He's a centrist!

Barney Frank is a Hard-Core Liberal.

https://www.ontheissues.org/MA/Barney_Frank.htm

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,292 posts)

6. Barney doesn't like

Reply to lapucelle (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:24 AM

Jan 2020

BS.. so there's that. lol

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

17. NO, NOT facts! Just too early in the morning for truth.

Reply to lapucelle (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 09:29 AM

Jan 2020

Of course the people who think being progressive is capitalizing it and turning the nation over to the Republicans to dismantle all the Democrats' progressive programs think Barney Frank's not one of them.

There isn't one who thinks that way who will look at that chart and wonder if someone very liberal and very progressive can actually be an enemy and why.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

denem

(11,045 posts)

4. Thank you lapucelle !

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:11 AM

Jan 2020

Valuable research

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,292 posts)

7. IOW Gosztola had so credibiltiy whatsoever.

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:28 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ramen

(790 posts)

11. I don't understand why anyone still listens to that clown.

Reply to Cha (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:27 AM

Jan 2020

I draw the line at Stein.. total insanity, and look where we landed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

19. Of course he doesn't. He's a flake job who doesn't belong

Reply to Cha (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:01 AM

Jan 2020

in even modestly intelligent discussions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

betsuni

(25,537 posts)

8. K&R

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:29 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)

9. Your headline is exactly what the media is saying.

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:54 AM

Jan 2020

It is all most will read.

Can Bernie just quickly disavow and condemn gosztola? That would be the right thing to do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

MH1

(17,600 posts)

21. Bernie has Stein supporters as key staff. nt

Reply to Jakes Progress (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:08 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)

37. I can't see how progressives want him.

Reply to MH1 (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:13 PM

Jan 2020

If they want what he sells, then they need to look at history. Turning you back on the Democratic Party will result in nothing getting done.

I think that too many people watch campaign speeches and television ads to determine their preference. If you know recent history, you get a better picture of how to achieve your goals. I'm lucky enough to have lived through things that younger voters will have to study and learn.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)

10. Kevin Gosztola apparently wanted to post a "big scoop"...

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:19 AM

Jan 2020

and apparently also wanted to stir things up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

CousinIT

(9,247 posts)

12. Supported Jill Stein and Disparaged Barack Obama. Huh.

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:35 AM

Jan 2020

People like this guy were a huge part of the problem in 2016. They're like the class clown. Not even amusing, just disruptive and damaging. Probably deliberately so. It's an interesting style of narcissism and evil that would be best marginalized and isolated so that it can not do any more damage next election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)

13. These people are trying to tea party the Democrats. Let's not let them. nt

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:45 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

redqueen

(115,103 posts)

27. It seems all but inevitable at this point.

Reply to UniteFightBack (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 06:51 PM

Jan 2020

People got really hopeful after we elected Obama.

But here we are years later and people are still wondering why we keep reauthorizing the Patriot Act, why massive defense spending bills are passed, why the AUMF hasn't been repealed, etc.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)

31. Perhpas inevitable...but that doesn't mean now. Each generation is getting more liberal

Reply to redqueen (Reply #27)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:17 PM

Jan 2020

and the demographics are changing so again inevitable ...but not now.

Let's stop the bleeding NOW and coalesce immediately around Biden. The muthafucka has
been impeached and getting tried right now because of the threat he feels from Biden.

Let's make that a reality.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)

14. can we just start calling this particular strip of Sanders supporter what they are?

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:53 AM

Jan 2020

They're toxic fans.

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-44950274

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/09/16/superfans-a-love-story

https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/2/16840170/swatting-death-call-duty-toxic-fandom

https://geekdad.com/2018/10/toxic-fandom-when-criticism-and-entitlement-go-too-far/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)

36. Oooh, great links! Spot on.

Reply to wyldwolf (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:01 AM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

brer cat

(24,576 posts)

15. Thanks for providing this background.

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:54 AM

Jan 2020

K&R

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)

16. No Offense

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 09:28 AM

Jan 2020

so called progressives (I support your goals before the word progressive was used), but you don't run the party. I'm curious. Why do you think you do run the Democratic Party? I rarely see you at our monthly meetings or being involved.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

18. A Nobel laureate economist once said Barney Frank was

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 09:39 AM

Jan 2020

one of THREE members of congress he felt genuinely understood economic issues. Of course "wish-and-click-your-heels-three-times" ideologues saw him as an obstacle. And how good for us that he still is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DanTex

(20,709 posts)

22. Which Nobel laureate, out of curiosity?

Reply to Hortensis (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:18 AM

Jan 2020

I believe you, just wondering who it was.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

24. Sorry, tried to remember, but too long ago.

Reply to DanTex (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 11:08 AM

Jan 2020

Frank retired in 2013 and it wouldn't have been more than a couple years before that, and I believe the prize was fairly recent, but that's still a lot of possibilities.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden