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brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:00 AM Jan 2020

Commentary: Could the Democratic race come down to Bernie Sanders vs. ... Mike Bloomberg?

Quad Cities Times

I know, progressives argue that the country needs more than just a return to normalcy after Trump. Its problems need a far stronger tonic, which in their prescription includes such things as providing government health insurance with no premiums or copays, taxing wealth, forgiving student loan debt and defanging Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Yet I can't help suspecting that most people don't want to be whipsawed from an extreme presidency on the populist right to an extreme presidency on the populist left. They want temperatures to cool, divisions to narrow and presidential rhetoric to be, well, presidential.

Which brings us back to Bloomberg, who may cause as much heartburn among progressives as Sanders does among moderates. His pitch - which he's making directly to the public through tens of millions of dollars in campaign commercials - is that he gets things done. That's a stark contrast to Sanders' aspirational promises, which the senator admits he won't be able to fulfill without a "revolution" by voters. And it's more concrete than Biden's nostalgia-tinged campaign to make the presidency great again.

Granted, Bloomberg's platform isn't far different from that espoused by other moderates, such as former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) and former Rep. John Delaney (D-Md.). But Bloomberg has a Croesus-sized war chest, which he's using to raise himself above the white noise of the debates, rallies and punditry. And as Morning Consult notes, the commercials are making Bloomberg considerably more appealing to Democratic voters than he was when he announced his candidacy. Granted, he hasn't faced a barrage of negative ads and coverage yet, so that flirtation may be brief.

But if the Morning Consult numbers are right, Bloomberg is establishing himself alongside Buttigieg as an alternative to Biden for voters worried about how the impeachment proceedings are affecting the former vice president's reputation. That's a remarkable shift in momentum, transforming the notion of Bloomberg winning the nomination from inconceivable into a real possibility.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Commentary: Could the Democratic race come down to Bernie Sanders vs. ... Mike Bloomberg? (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2020 OP
My opinion . . . Iliyah Jan 2020 #1
No Botany Jan 2020 #2
God help us. In that case I'd vote for Bloomberg. MH1 Jan 2020 #3
Oy! Scurrilous Jan 2020 #4
If it did, I'd vote for Bloomberg, but I doubt it will. I think it's more likely that Bloomberg LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #5
Besides what you may mean, Bloomberg promises to do Hortensis Jan 2020 #7
Brushing aside the opening insult to Democratic progressives Hortensis Jan 2020 #6
 

MH1

(17,600 posts)
3. God help us. In that case I'd vote for Bloomberg.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:12 AM
Jan 2020

To be fair, outside Warren and Biden, Bloomberg would be my (reluctant) choice in any other two way match up. I like Mayor Pete and I like some of Yang's ideas. I don't think either has a snowball's chance in hell of winning the GE.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
5. If it did, I'd vote for Bloomberg, but I doubt it will. I think it's more likely that Bloomberg
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:18 AM
Jan 2020

will take down Bernie for Biden.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Besides what you may mean, Bloomberg promises to do
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jan 2020

what he has to to defeat Trump. That would have to include opposing Sanders becoming the star of a "smoking ruins" scenario in November. (The L.A. Times Jon Healey's term for what's always happened when we've run people from too far left.)

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Brushing aside the opening insult to Democratic progressives
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:36 AM
Jan 2020

(I hate LW progressivism-smashing ideologues being called that), it'd extremely unlikely, but Sanders' current rise in California is worrisome (and unworthy of my relatively enlightened and advanced home state). Billionaires buying elections is all wrong, but my consolation is that Bloomberg would crush Sanders if the nation's current political pathology somehow brought us to that. I am not worried about "smoking-ruins" in November. Or even a Bloomberg presidency, step further in the wrong money-rules direction that it would be.

Bloomberg is at least proven mostly ethical and far more competent if imperfect as a mayor, both hugely important; and being a self-made, somewhere in the teens of the planet's wealthiest billionaires is some kind of credential. A reasonably liberal progressive Bloomberg presidency would be a success, not an almost guaranteed failure. What a choice, , but one I'd be grateful to have.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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