Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBIDEN TELLS IOWA MAN TO VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE, ACCUSES HIM OF SUPPORTING SANDERS--MAN SAYS HE'S ACTUA
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-tells-iowa-man-vote-someone-else-accuses-him-supporting-sandersman-says-hes-actually-1484511
While meeting with voters during an Iowa campaign stop Tuesday afternoon, Joe Biden experienced a verbal disagreement with former Iowa state representative Ed Fallon over Biden's climate change platform. When he accused Fallon of being a supporter of Sen. Bernie Sanders, Fallon declared he was going to vote for Tom Steyer in the primary.
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Speaking about the incident in a post on Bold Iowa, Fallon said it was, in his opinion, "disturbing on a number of levels."
"And despite his repeated calls for unity, Biden rejects my offer to support him in the general election. That really shocked me. What was even more shocking was how Biden pushed and poked me, and then took hold of my jacket with both hands as he lectured me," he said.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jalan48
(13,870 posts)a similar impression. It seems that the pressure is affecting him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dchill
(38,503 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,594 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)"Why, Why , Why, Why , Why "..That's a good look ? .I will admit that some people find Bernie's screaming and arm waving off putting George 2 , can you understand why some people are troubled by the way Biden is acting on the campaign trail ? He called one guy "Fat" after all
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)and told 'em to go vote for someone else. Holy shit!! WE'D NEVER HEAR THE END OF IT!!!
Can't wait to read all the excuses for this kind of behavior... if Joe were smart, he'd issue an immediate apology, without appearing to be pressured into it.
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,163 posts)...I think you may be right...
...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,870 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)what Democratic voters have known for quite awhile now... Joe reacts in ways that makes people question whether he's the most electable candidate to put up against tRumpy The Cown!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)this will not sit well with Iowa voters!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MBS
(9,688 posts)Being able to keep your cool and good judgment, and ability to think on your feet, under unimaginable pressure, is IMO Job Requirement #1 for the presidency, especially given the multiple (and, undoubtedly, multiple unexpected)major crises that the next president will face, from Day 1, and on every front.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)being a Bernie supporter when he wasn't. The anti-Bernie stuff going around is getting a little much, and maybe that influenced Biden subconsciously.
But, in the end, I don't think many votes change because of things like this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"The anti-Bernie stuff going around is getting a little much"
An ironic allegation given the inherent nature of the OP.
But I get it... sacred cows are attacked while primary nominees are merely vetted (FYI: the pretense that six of one is different in nature than half a dozen of the other is an indication of a lazy mind).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)If the shoe fits...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,789 posts)Actually you called us haters, centrists, third way and bashers in a half dozen OPs. They are all your words.
You call for an end of divisiveness then call those that do not support Bernie names.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Lack of self-awareness usually creates a blind spot when it comes to irony.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,789 posts)mirror~
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)For Bernie. I wouldnt put it past Sirota et al
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Yesterday: https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287453007
and
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287453388
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287454654
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You guys get your cake plus the prophecy of eating it as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,778 posts)Bankrupt the country
That he feels the Democratic Party is intellectually bankrupt
That he was for SS cuts before wasnt
Bernie erases Black working class mass mobilization by suggesting the 1968 Memphis sanitation strike wasnt about quote unquote Civil Rights demonstration
That he wanted to primary president Obama in 12
All that is okay?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cirque du So-What
(25,941 posts)But, then, I don't live here and I sure as shit don't have time for counting threads.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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sheshe2
(83,789 posts)I want to be fully aware of what everyone is saying.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,001 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)and DISTORTIONS coming out of the Sanders camp against him, from the likes of David Sirota, Gray, Turner, and the surrogates they have feeding social media with that DISINFORMATION.
What is interesting though is this scorch and burn strategy appears to be failing, and I suspect this repeated ad nausea from some is their desperation because it may NOT be resonating outside of their base. It turns people off, and what appears to be a self-destructive strategy, a good number of them marginalize and bash what they consider "establishment Democrats"
I guess they feel they don't need these so-called "establishment Democrats" to win the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES
We'll see how that works out for them.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287454527
In the meantime I expect to see more flaimebait crap like this
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Smells of desperation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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RandiFan1290 This message was self-deleted by its author.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)not a host. I and other hosts have no power to do anything about duplicates in any forum except LBN.
Our only other power is to lock threads in the wrong forum.
I have a right to express my opinions in any place I want to and on any subject.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)He seems to be under the misguided impression that spamming the forum will someone make people want to vote for Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)This is only the second OP I've seen on Biden's manhandling of Mr. Fallon. NOT a good look...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)does NOT do a service to their candidate, but actually I think turns people away from him
We will see after Super Tuesday where things stand
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)is to keep reposting the same OPs over and over to try to influence new visitors/members to DU to sway them in their candidate choice.
We have to call out each and every one of the false and divisive OPs so that the game (to them ) isn't effective.
You can even post something like this in a thread -
Attention old and new members and visitors to DU -
Be sure to read all responses in each thread to get all the information. Don't be lead or influenced by fear tactics and negative half truths. Investigate all claims and news stories. Decide for yourselves. Be your own DUer.
And welcome.
ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)going on
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)But for many of us this isn't our first rodeo. And for many others... well there seems to be a plethora of the same rodeo clowns. IMHO of course.
ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)I'm also taking your advice and editing my post.
ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)he may have been badgering Biden and caused this reaction. Been to a ton of Meet and Greets,form time to time,thinks get heated and yes there will be someone who just won't back off.
Cell phones are the Politicians worse enemy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)how many voters love tough talk. Appropriate or not. lots like it..... A guy was elected President, in due part, because of it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,624 posts)It doesnt make Biden look tough, it makes him look rude and uncaring.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)I watch the video and cant for the life of me think of a reason for Biden to be so beligerent.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)But keep telling voters to vote for someone else in the primary, Joe . . . it's fine with me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,219 posts)as "establishment Democrats" to do
In other words, his continuous bashing of "establishment Democrats" is imply that these establishment Democrats should vote for someone else in the primaries
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)voters? Wow. Things I learn here on DU.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,219 posts)"establishment Democrats"
In other words, he attacks what he terms as centrists and establishment Democrats all the time
That is implying that these "establishment Democrats" should vote for someone else in the primary
That is what I am saying
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)didn't express very well in my first comment
Thanks
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)We get it... polling data doesn't bode well for Bernie's anemic campaign, so it's off to pretend another offense in the hope it sticks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Saviolo
(3,282 posts)Link to tweet
?s=20
@ZaidJilani
Someone has informed me that the man in the Biden video above is Ed Fallon, a former long time Democratic state rep. in Iowa. Biden told a long-time Iowa politico on camera to vote for someone else and then grabbed him by his jacket.
From Fallon's website here: http://boldiowa.com/biden-didnt-need-to-do-this-to-me/
For the past few weeks, Ive been clear about my intention to caucus for Tom Steyer and, if hes not viable, then to support Bernie Sanders in realignment. My reasoning is simple. The climate crisis is an existential threat that trumps all issues. Steyer is the strongest on climate. Sanders is second.
Even for those of us whove decided who were going to support, theres value in attending other candidates events to further elevate the climate conversation. That was my intent at Joe Bidens block party on Sunday. After long answers to a handful of pre-arranged questions, Biden invited attendees to come up front for a photo and a brief question.
And despite his repeated calls for unity, Biden rejects my offer to support him in the general election. That really shocked me. What was even more shocking was how Biden pushed and poked me, and then took hold of my jacket with both hands as he lectured me.
He's also very serious about the environment and about pipelines:
Link to tweet
?s=20
@Rushthewriter
Man in the video is Ed Fallon.
He once walked the entire Iowa route of the Dakota Access pipeline before it was built and documented the entire thing. I met him when he hit rural O'Brien County and interviewed him in the passenger seat of my car.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)A heated exchange featured Sanders telling those interrupting him in the audience to "shut up"
"Not a good look"!!
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/bernie-sanders-town-hall-devolves-into-screaming-match-about
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)desperately trying to portray his being curt and grumpy as a progessive bona fide. As if "not saying happy birthday" was evidence that one did 'not put up with bullshit,' rather than simply being less than thoughtful or concerned with other people's reactions or feelings.
I think it validated HRC's comments in that documentary more than it dismissed them. But if one thinks that anything they say is by definition "truth" then I suppose one could convince oneself that being self-absorbed when it comes to dealing with other people makes one more of a progressive than people who worry about "bullshit" like saying happy birthday.
Link to tweet
Perhaps that's a rationalization when one feels like they are missing out on something, so convince themselves that it means something is better about them than others.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Funny.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)He seems uncomfortable. Not a good look for someone who hopes to become the Leader of the Free World.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BadGimp
(4,015 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aaron Pereira
(383 posts)Seeing an interaction like that in an ordinary circumstance usually results in someone getting punched in the nose. Bad look to say the least.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oasis
(49,389 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oasis
(49,389 posts)the subject far surpasses mine.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarc
(10,476 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
essme
(1,207 posts)Do that on the street or in a bar and get hit. Or at least told to go fuck off.
I think Biden needed a nap instead of talking to humans.
And yes I will vote for Biden in the general election. As for primary probably not but being in NC (primary on March 3rd) I doubt I'll have any options.
Thanks.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)may not even realize but needs to be educated on.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quixote1818
(28,946 posts)However, I don't remember seeing that in the video?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)Be sure to read all responses in each thread to get all the information. Don't be lead or influenced by fear tactics and negative half truths. Investigate all claims and news stories. Decide for yourselves. Be your own DUer.
And welcome.
ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Thanks!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)Everyone should feel free to spread the message.
ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)This guy isnt some right wing nutcase he is a loyal democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided