As to Sanders' points,

1) Per the SCOTUS, money equals speech. And as long as Buckley v Valeo and Citizens United v FEC stand, the system will remain unresponsive to the needs of the bottom 90%. The only way that can change is if those SCOTUS decisions are overturned, or legislated away. And the way to insure the second is to inspire massive voter turnout.

2) Class based politics is the way the rich have always operated, even as they insist, against all evidence, that the US has no class based political/economic system.

3) Anything that divides us, be it racism, or sexism, or any form of intolerance, weakens us and allows the rich to dominate US politics.

4) This position, as I referenced in #2, is essential if any gains are not to be only temporary. The rich have long term plans. The seeds for the Trump Administration, and GOP politics in general, were planted by the rich in the late 1960s as their response to the movements for civil and sexual and racial justice that were growing.

And how about being a Democrat full time instead of when it suits him.

Perhaps a revolution is warranted before we fade to autocracy.
One thing for sure, greed-driven, White bread, status quo ain’t working.

...and arguing for one is a sure general election loser.

Bernie would lose 40+ states.

the 20th Century. William Jennings Bryan, Robert La Follette and Teddy Roosevelt himself could not get a third of the population to follow them.

They addressed serious problems of the time, like the trusts, massive agricultural losses, banks twisting the knot... Much worse than what we have now. Corruption at all levels was endemic, too. Much of the law we have today came from the excesses of that era, but those who fought for justice back then never obtained full power.

Of it. I'm going to be so pissed.

He's not the best candidate in those races IMO.

Vote blue, no matter who.

..reign of terror. That was MILD. NOW we really do have a reign of terror. I think, honestly, the time for the political revolution has passed.

Namaste.

This "revolution" is a fantasy.

Set it on the lowest speed then play the song.

... a skip ... a skip ... a skip ... a skip ... a skip

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This fantasy that somehow "when the revolution comes" the GOP is just going to suddenly bow down and acquiesce to anything and everything that Sanders is proposing is just that...fantasy. We need a nominee who both sees the world as it really is while at the same time how we want the world to be and has realistic plans for accomplishing those goals.

People should look at tax tables year by year and see what has happened to the top tax brackets since Reagan. Once again the top marginal tax rate was over 90% every year Eisenhower was in office.....Ike being a Republican for those who don’t know. Now we have democrats saying that is reckless thinking. What a difference 60 years can make.

are lucky folks ..As for the folks born and/or living on the wrong side of the tracks , they've had enough ...Stagnant wages for over 45 years is Enough ….… The people forced into Bankruptcy for the crime of getting cancer have had enough ….People sick of these endless wars have had enough ...The people who watch corporate lobbyists write our ruinous trade deals have had enough …. The people forced to work 3 jobs to pay their bills have had enough …… A sleeping Giant has become awoke ….The egotistical one tenth of 1 % are pissing in their pants ….Too bad , So Sad ...

Totally agree! That was the mood of the people in the last election and it is still our mood.

are going to be disappointed.

See also: Ralph Nader.

Campaigns are not revolutions. POTUS is not an office that works will with a disruptor in it... as we've seen.

Those who effected real revolutionary change did it in the streets (MLK), in the Courts (Thurgood Marshall) or in popular entertainment (documentary makers, Musicians like Woody Guthrie and Aretha Franklin, Writers like Upton Sinclair) and POTUS is a diplomatic and managerial position. The job description, metrics of success and timelines for the activist and the politician are very different.

MLK didn't run for office. He understood that the revolution wasn't going to come from Capitol Hill, but by being in the streets, inspiring and leading the people, who would then pressure Capitol Hill.

He needed a savvy, arm twisting, establishment POTUS in place to working in tandem to convince Capitol Hill to respond to the real revolutionary - who believed that voting was a civic duty as well as a right.

Bernie believes that he will be both the revolutionary and the POTUS, but it just doesn't work that way in real life.

Bernie didn't even to vote until he ran for office.

But sure, color yourself as a Sans-culottes... it's a hip and trendy thing to do these days.




(BTW: your conversational English is becoming very good)

...political revolution is way long overdue...

" Before I turn to that evidence, however, let’s make clear what it would mean for American politics if Sanders were to triumph this November: We could begin to meaningfully deal with climate change, wealth inequality, the housing and health care crises, and perhaps wind down our forever wars in the Middle East; under a moderate Democrat, nothing will get done. "


...Bernie will do it...

More like over done!

I'm skeptical that this is the best path forward.

I'm more into liberal democracy myself.

Sure. Another 4 years of Trump. He gave us the first 4 years, and for that, I will never forgive him. He should go away and enjoy his retirement.

Bernie would beat Trump," when the two have never actually gone head to head in a GE. Things change when reality rears its ugly head.

Like the reality of the GOP turning it's guns on Sanders the nominee, instead of his primary rivals while promoting him behind the scenes as a primary candidate.

See also: Many who were self-described Elizabeth Warren fans, and said they would totally vote for her if she ran were calling her every name in the book within an hour after she endorsed HRC.

The reality of the GE is a completely different than the reality of a primary.

We all know Putin ran against Hillary. See the Mueller report on who else helped Putin's campaign and Hillarie's defeat.

I have never taken sanders seriously due to a complete lack of legislative accomplishments of sanders and the fact that I do not understand sanders voter revolution The NYT also did not understand how sanders voter revolution works

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But revolution seems a tad little melodramatic to describe one as such.

But sure... go ahead and commercially brand him as you see fit, and package him in colorful wrapping paper that has pictures on it of what you want to see.

by having his millions of supporters across the country mobilize

that would do immediate good for the US and prove he has revolution power

Actual support of Bernie would happen, if he proposed small changes.

Senator Sanders doesn't want small changes to get the goal. He wants a 110 yard run to the end zone at kickoff. And that won't happen, Americans, humans, can't make huge leaps. Rs have been making small changes since Nixon... Even during the Obama Administration Rs drug us to the right with their small changes. We haven't been able to stop it, just slow the move to the right.

That is why electing a, so called moderate, is important. An every day Joe, someone you could have a beer with after work. Someone that could make small changes to the left, and America can see how the left is helping them day to day....

I got off track there. In 2007, or there about, Senator Sanders proposed $15 min wage, we had just gotten $7.25, more than double, and he couldn't get it going. Here we are 13 years later and still no $15 min wage. Hell it's still $7.25 federally. If he had proposed small changes over, say 10 years, we could have $15-16 min wage now.