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brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:42 AM Jan 2020

Observations on Bernie and Biden in their unnatural habitats

Politico

Bernie Sanders had a cold. The presidential candidate was sitting in the Senate chamber last week listening to Adam Schiff explain why Donald Trump should be removed from office and he retrieved a crumpled tissue from his pocket to wipe his runny nose. It didn’t help that it’s chilly inside the cavernous room. Sanders frequently rubbed his hands together and at one point tucked them under his sweater. (Elizabeth Warren used a hand warmer.)

I watched Sanders and his colleagues from the press gallery, the rim of the fishbowl the Senate has been turned into, for hours over the course of several days. And what was most striking was the contrast between presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, the man who is one of perhaps just two or three people most likely to be the next leader of the Democratic Party, and Senator Bernie Sanders, a famous loner in the upper chamber who rarely interacted with his colleagues during days of trial presentations.

On Wednesday I was back in Iowa for the final days before the caucuses. With four of his rivals presiding at Trump’s trial, Joe Biden had the state almost to himself and the contrast with Sanders was telling. While In Washington I watched Sanders struggle to generate excitement among his Senate colleagues, in Iowa I watched Joe Biden, the candidate with the most Senate endorsements, struggle to generate enthusiasm among a small group of voters in Council Bluffs, on the Nebraska border.


Biden is a creature of the Senate. Sanders is a creature of the campaign trail. Observing them back to back in these two settings helped clarify the choice before voters.
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Observations on Bernie and Biden in their unnatural habitats (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2020 OP
Preposterous article. Creature of the Senate vs creature KPN Jan 2020 #1
Which one? brooklynite Jan 2020 #2
Profile piece? Profile of what? Bernie has a cold. Bernie KPN Jan 2020 #3
You missed the point of the article... brooklynite Jan 2020 #4
No, brooklyn, I got that. I just didn't find his caricature of Sanders a mere "observation". KPN Jan 2020 #6
Looks to me snowybirdie Jan 2020 #5
 

KPN

(15,643 posts)
1. Preposterous article. Creature of the Senate vs creature
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:54 AM
Jan 2020

of the campaign trail! Lol.

Guess we know Ryan Lizza’s preferred candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
2. Which one?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:58 AM
Jan 2020

I see a profile piece. No bias.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,643 posts)
3. Profile piece? Profile of what? Bernie has a cold. Bernie
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:03 AM
Jan 2020

is a loner. .... Whereas you see a profile piece, I see just more drivel if not just another hit piece.

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brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
4. You missed the point of the article...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:08 AM
Jan 2020

Bernie IS a loner in the Senate, vs Biden's long term Senate history and comfortable relationships with Senators of both Parties. OTOH Biden IS uncomfortable on the campaign trail vs Bernie relishing the engagement with his supporters. Currently they're both in the environments they're least comfortable with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,643 posts)
6. No, brooklyn, I got that. I just didn't find his caricature of Sanders a mere "observation".
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:52 PM
Jan 2020

From my perspective, it came across, as I said, as just another hit piece. Granted, I like and include Sanders among the candidates that I may vote for in the primary so maybe I'm a little jaded. I certainly feel I have reason to be given the recent barrage of Bernie attacks in the media and here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
5. Looks to me
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:23 AM
Jan 2020

Like this article fortifies the argument that Biden would be much better at getting good legislation passed and get things done over Bernie. A real strength IMHO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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