Democratic Primaries
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A little background first..
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ROFL look at that list...Jane Sanders, John Cusack, Susan Sarandon, and Jimmy Dore?
What if I told you Jimmy Dore was Sean Hannitys clone?
"The nexus between Fox News, GOP conspiracies, the far-right, and the reactionary left has kicked into high-gear over the last 3 months, correlated directly by the official announcement of the probe into Donald Trump purportedly conditioning aid in Ukraine to dig up dirt on political opponent Joe Biden.
Jimmy Dore has adopted the most sensationalist, far-right conspiracies incubated on the web, name-dropping CrowdStrike, to defend Trump asking Zelensky to do us a favor and find out what happened to a data server that does not exist."
https://medium.com/@inquisitormatt5/what-if-i-told-you-jimmy-dore-was-sean-hannitys-clone-3dee229e49b2
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Beakybird
(3,333 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)Why am I not surprised...Bernie is endorsed by and/or hired two guys who basically spout the same racist right wing shit. What the fuck is wrong with him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Devil Child
(2,728 posts)And welcome to DU!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)This week, NBC, the Associated Press, and Politico all reported on the emerging anxiety within elite Democratic circles about Sanderss ascent in the polls and nascent efforts by operatives to arrest his momentum. As journalist Andrew Perez noted, all three reports cited one Matt Bennett, cofounder of the organization Third Way, who issued boilerplate warnings about the supposed dangers of a Sanders nomination. In a pattern that is almost certain to be repeated in the coming weeks and months, Bennetts intervention was framed as an earnest expression of concern by a moderate Democrat mindful of taking what he believes to be a major political risk.
But it was actually something else, given Bennetts job at a self-identified think tank that has received extensive contributions from corporate patrons, including health insurance company Humana and Koch Industries. Washington is packed with groups like Third Way and others in the same mold, the function of which is to provide a layer of institutional sediment separating corporate interests from the mouthpieces they fund to advance their interests. In the gelatinous mass of lobbyists, megadonors, corporate spokespeople, and political operatives resulting from this arrangement, it can often be difficult to tell where the private sector ends and the public sector or party apparatus begins.
Nonetheless, Bennetts anguished intervention is a telltale sign that panic about Sanders is starting to spill outside the op-ed pages and into the boardrooms of corporate interests from pharmaceutical companies to Wall Street investment firms who have an immediate pecuniary interest in opposing his program. If Sanderss performance in the first round of primaries and caucuses matches current expectations, big business will undoubtedly intensify its efforts to stop him likely aided, as in this case, by centrist Democrat operatives who sit at the noxious juncture of party politics and corporate agitprop.
https://jacobinmag.com/2020/01/stop-sanders-movement-bernie-2020-election-democratic-party
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'd thought relevance was implicit. I guess it need to be explained as such. "IMO"
Good luck!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Went ahead and put article in it's own OP. You are welcome to share your thoughts as always. Have a good one if I don't see you.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:09 PM - Edit history (2)
They'll come for you on their trundleboards.
Bernie Rides Bike Fastest Goes Wheeee -
How Bernie Bros and Trumpistas See Their Guys Is Really Weird to the Rest of Us - Obviously Not Jacobin
"If we've learned anything over the past 20 or so years, it's that politics is capable of destroying everything it touches. When it comes to the most ardent supporters of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump, it shouldn't be surprising that politics completely shreds their artistic judgement."
https://reason.com/2019/11/21/how-bernie-bros-and-trumpistas-see-their-guys-is-really-weird-to-the-rest-of-us/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)To be disturbing. Trumpets do a lot of that too with him riding a giant eagle carrying a machine gun etc. its totally Batshit.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Some of the Bernie stuff is so over the top it's almost satire. Is this where they hook them? With comics? Insidious.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)I always thought it was the free everything that was the hook but maybe the ludicrous propaganda infused imagery plays a bigger role than first thought.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Someone needs to nail down the animated rights. He could end up being the most popular villain in the MCU.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)A take on the most liked/shared picture of a misdemeanor arrest ever.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Also, which 80 year old man are you referring to?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,258 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Lived like a spark burning fast and bright I guess
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,224 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,224 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,224 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,224 posts)with that thread yet. Thank you!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,224 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)call bullshit...Bernie should be ashamed and so should those who defend this vile man-including but not limited to Jane Sanders...he is a God damn right winger...he was showing the left's supposed media manipulation...ask his buddy Sean Hannity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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DanTex
(20,709 posts)I agree, they shouldn't have thrown him under the bus. Glad they learned to ignore the faux-woke outrage from anti-Bernie twitter and from corporate-funded think tanks when it came to the Rogan endorsement.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)about MLK...just away to cover his sorry ass and judging from Twitter, he failed. Oh, I am sure his buddy Hannity just loved it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Like, you seriously think that he wasn't actually making a parody video to show how manipulation works? Really? Like he secretly actually hates MLK, but the way he expresses that hatred is by pretending to make a parody video that is actually a non-parody...
I mean, for starters, if that were true, why would he make the other video praising MLK?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)an excuse...it is disgusting to do that to a martyred American hero. This POS (and he isn't funny either) should have nothing to do with Sander's campaign...your wrong about this and Rogan- DanTex...it is a BFD to many people. Oh did you watch the 'retarded' video...what a guy...so funny...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)and was one of the subjects of that whole episode of demeaning sexism and harassment that Bernie staffers finally revealed a couple years ago.
edit:
https://www.latinorebels.com/2017/04/01/californias-34th-congressional-district-election-gets-ugly-and-public-with-allegations-of-sexual-harassment/
"The rest of the post provides a very detailed account of Mendietas working experience in the Sanders campaign, and how, according to Mendieta, Carmona was protected by other make Sanders campaign officials. Near the end of the post, Mendieta wrote this:
We all knew Arturo would book flights back home to California using the campaign travel agency despite it being against policy. We all know that the immigration policy he keeps touting as his pièce de résistance was actually the work of Erika Andiola and Cesar Vargas. In fact, we all wrote the policy memos. I cant think of one he did himself while I was there. We all saw how he would demean the female staff, treat us like his personal assistants fetching things for him and doing his errands, while he never asked male staff with the same titles to do any of that. I remember being told by a Latino staffer that the first question Arturo asked when he hired me was: Is she cute? When I looked horrified, he clarified: He asks that about all the women he hires""
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,258 posts)snip=================================================================================
Many of you asked me what Bernie had to say, assuming him or someone from his team obviously would have reached out to me after the story broke. No, he did not and they did not. It was crickets. And lest you think it some inflated sense of self, how would you react if you were a politician and this story emerged about your own campaign (that is, if you are a feminist)? I wouldve immediately picked up the phone, reached out, apologized, soothed, promised to investigate, something, anything. But Bernie (and his team) did nothing. Instead, I got blacklisted.
https://medium.com/@mashamendieta/be-your-own-hero-because-bernie-is-not-it-c4add2e08029
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)It's a sign of an opportunist more than a good leader. His quick fix was only because this was exposed -- perfectly titled piece:
Be Your Own Hero Because Bernie Is Not It.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,258 posts)Sexual violence, sex discrimination, and a pervasive predatory culture...
And it feels like nothing has changed. No wonder Symone Sanders jumped ship.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)primary list as in never never and never ...did I say never? only in the general...and I have never said this abut any candidate in my life, but I will be holding my nose. I hope to God he is not the nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Through The Whole running for President video.
But I thought it merited mentioning that he supported a public option.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Let's see, they're attacking Bernie because his wife retweeted a video from some other guy who a long time ago made a video titled "Media Manipulation 101", distorting MLK's speech in order to show how video and audio can be manipulated.
Whatever will the come up with next?!?!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)That's my guess as to "they came up with next..." It serves Bernie's faux-oppression and faux-martyrdom routines so very well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)Bernie has won the battle over the issues that people care about ...So now the Bernie-phobes are reduced to resorting to this pathetic nonsense . Bernie is a sexist ...No , he is a secret racist , ...No , Bernie is a Communist ...No , Bernie is secret Capitalist - he's hiding a fortune . ...The Reality : Bernie offers real solutions to the real problems facing most Americans.. He is far from perfect ..He's flawed like the rest of us .But Bernie , warts and all , has been fighting for the "Little Man/ Woman his entire adult life .. We have the receipts .The Establishment knows he's The Real Deal ....That is why they hate him so
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,224 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,224 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Bernie Sanders Drops Just-Hired Video Staffer After Offensive Videos Spark Outrage
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)the corporate-backed think tanks attacking him aren't actually super-woke, they just don't want him to be president.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....that put out a disgusting video (several, but one in particular) that mimicked MLK and used his image/speech to promote a pornographic idea.
You can fall back on that ol' "corporate back" if you want, but that doesn't make it true or even relevant.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)at making videos. But when they found that old parody video they let him go, to satisfy the faux-woke centrists that all pretended to be offended by it. Like, isn't that what you wanted him to do? Shouldn't you be applauding him for that?
The video guy is obviously progressive, obviously not racist, whether MLK should be used to show how media can be manipulated is arguable, but no voters who don't already hate Bernie are going to care about that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)You know, she didn't even praise the guy, she praised the Bernie video. Which was, in fact, a great video.
But whatever, the point is, who do you think this sways? Why would this make anyone less likely to want Bernie as President?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Haven't I seen angst over any reference to Bernie being Jewish? What "faux-woke" category would that fall into? What about Jane's appearance -- fair game? Which "voters" will care about those insults?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
John Fante
(3,479 posts)They also spend 99% of their time attacking the Democratic Party:
https://medium.com/@0rf/trump-is-not-the-problem-9708d12c473f
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)on MLK...sex, drugs etc.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(16,859 posts)Any attempt to twist that into something else is, frankly, appalling to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)and( Jane even praised this guy)who made the most vile attack video on MLK I have ever seen and who celebrated the endorsement of a vile hate merchant- Joe Rogan. You can't make this right. I predict that if Sanders is the nominee...AA won't turn out for him in the numbers we need and his Rogan buddies were always going to vote for Trump in the General. Sanders will lose the general.
Sure I hold my nose and vote for Sanders in a General...I have always voted for the Democratic nominee..but you are kidding yourself if you believe some who truly dislike the way Sander's has conducted his campaign and his hires etc won't stay home...not people here of course but enough to throw the election to Trump. What some don't understand is the our reclaiming the blue wall states is only possible with a large AA turnout...and Sanders blew it with them. There is no going back. If he is the nominee, he loses and we lose as a party and a country. The progressive movement is gone. I sincerely hope Sanders will not be the nominee and I don't see any surge so maybe we get through this and have a nominee like Biden or even Warren with the right VP who can win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)I mean, 99% of the people who view that video will understand that it's a parody showing how media can be manipulated. Just by the title.
Beyond that, 99% of people will never see that video because they don't really care what videos people who made videos retweeted by Bernie's wife made ten years ago. (Even explaining the "scandal" is a mouthful lol)
Like Joe Rogan said, if you take any person and highlight the very worst thing they ever did, you can make them look bad. Again, 99% of people will agree with Rogan on this.
But this isn't even something Bernie did. It's not something his wife did. It's something that a guy who made a video that was retweeted by Bernie's wife did.
Who cares!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)can work across the aisle and praised Republicans whom he has come to know throughout his career. WHO CARES, right?
So glad to see how flippancy can dispel all the recent months of hair pulling over Biden. Double standards are cool!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)I mean, I'm sure some people do, that's a whole different thing than some random parody video from ten years ago. Those segregationists were actually racist, they didn't just make a parody video. And Biden described them as good friends, it's not just like his wife retweeted one of their videos.
But I don't recall saying that Biden being close friends with segregationists is a huge deal.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)instead of, for instance, speaking at someone's funeral 20 years ago. If you make a video, then that's cool. You can mock, insult, ridicule -- the whole shebang -- because you are really just a cool video maker.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)segregationists if videos what you care about.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Especially taking things out of context, that seems to be a big thing. Recently mocking MLK, though, that gets a pass, because cool cat video makers are off the hook. The double standards are never ending.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)Whataboutism...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)The point is not to bash Biden or Bernie or anyone. The point is how absurd playing the guilt-by-association purity test game is, because nobody wins. We need to defeat Trump.
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)guy is...I can't deal with this at all. I am really angry about this...because this guy also has attacked handicapped people...he is a bad guy. Does Sanders vet no one? And is he really still working for the campaign?
Here is the bottom line for me. I don't trust Sanders on social justice issues period. Early in the campaign he was my second choice..but not any more. He gets my vote in a general. And as an aside...those who are highest paid are men. I am just done with this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)He has a brother with special needs. Perhaps we should ask his brother how he feels about being called "handicapped".
Handicapped parking is still in use (e.g., when referring to parking placards), though the word handicapped is offensive and has been virtually eliminated in most other contexts. Remove it from your organizations vocabulary completely by using the term accessible parking. (Its also more accurate, as accessible describes the parking and handicapped does not.)
https://www.diversityinc.com/diversity-leaders-6-things-never-to-say-about-disabilities/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)The guy loves the word 'retard' ...and he uses it in a vile way too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Yeah, I agree. Excellent point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,224 posts).. what?!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)Matt....scum.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)He literally said that in the description of the video that everyone is faux-outraged about.
https://medium.com/@0rf/my-first-day-in-politics-bcd93ff7f53c
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)his way of having his cake and eating it too...cracked him up sure.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,224 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....but is still making videos for them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
denem
(11,045 posts)but was still writing hit pieces for them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
denem
(11,045 posts)the 'auditions' never end.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)This idiot is a racist and no campaign should be associated with him. In addition, no campaign should be associated with a liar like Sirota and no Democratic campaign should be staffed by Jill Stein supporters. A vote for Jill stein was a vote for trump
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OneMoreCupOfCoffee
(314 posts)One knows candidates by the company they keep and who they put in positions of influence.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,519 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dlk
(11,566 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)What she did to the college she lead was horrific. Tons of people lost their jobs, including a friend who is 52 and still underemployed in retail after teaching for 20 plus years.
No use for her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)and walked away. The entire faculty and staff wanted her investigated.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)many ways he will come after Sanders...even if what she did isn't illegal...they will trash her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)"There were no problems when I left. It was great." "...had I stayed, that it would have been wonderful."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
John Fante
(3,479 posts)for being the phony progressive that he is. If his first choice is Bernie, his second choice is Trump, and I'm not so sure that's the order.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)To see his name juxtaposed aside the leading lights of the left is hilarious. They have become one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jose Garcia
(2,598 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,386 posts)Better yet, they can allow him unlimited visits with them at their Vermont home.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whathehell
(29,067 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)He's starting something with Biden. Al Sharpton was tweeting something about it and every one was laughing.
Shug Bravery knows Bernie is CLEARLY a RACIST@Brave_Writing
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I can't believe this shit. Errybody knows Shaka Blanco is a con artist
Hieronymus McGillicuddy@HieronymusMcG
·Replying to @TheRevAl
Shaun King? That grifter? You're kidding, right?
Kicker Of Elves@brobofet
@TheRevAl
Dont be blind Rev.. If you stood in the way of their progressive agenda they would be slandering your ass too.. Progressive /Dem Socialist See this election as their best chance theyve ever had .. And theyre going to say or do whatever they can to achieve their goals
attillathehunny@Attilathehunnny
·Replying to @TheRevAl
Talculm X? You're taking notes from Talculm X
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)Shaun King is a major grifter
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden