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liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 07:57 PM Feb 2020

Just a friendly reminder that Bloomberg endorsed Susan Collins over Democrat Shenna Bellows

in 2014. As such we have Kavenaugh on the Supreme Court and the GOP tax scam as she was the deciding vote for both. Come on Democrats we can do better than Republicans like Mike as our nominee, right?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Just a friendly reminder that Bloomberg endorsed Susan Collins over Democrat Shenna Bellows (Original Post) liskddksil Feb 2020 OP
Is he endorsing Collins in 2020? delisen Feb 2020 #1
The damage is done nt liskddksil Feb 2020 #2
Can you prove collins would have lost in 2014 if. Bloomberg did not endorse? delisen Feb 2020 #14
Bloomberg should run for the Republican nomination then nt liskddksil Feb 2020 #15
Don't care. Will still take him any day of the week over Sanders. Zolorp Feb 2020 #3
I agree NYFlip Feb 2020 #10
It's painful to walk around... Stellar Feb 2020 #22
Sanders Berned all bridges to me in 2016 Zolorp Feb 2020 #23
How? Stellar Feb 2020 #24
If you need to ask that after what I've posted, you will never be capable of understanding. Zolorp Feb 2020 #28
Yeah, perhaps you're right... Stellar Feb 2020 #30
They blame Bernie for Hillary losing. Ace Rothstein Feb 2020 #29
Thank you for sharing... Stellar Feb 2020 #33
I consider him 100% of the reason why Hillary lost Zolorp Feb 2020 #34
Maybe Bloomberg is a Democrat of convenience... apcalc Feb 2020 #4
hey I've read right here that he's a REAL Democrat Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #5
He's currently kicking Donald Trump's pasty ass TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #6
Backed Toomey over McGinty also ebbie15644 Feb 2020 #7
Yep. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #8
Yep. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #9
And he may be your nominee ibegurpard Feb 2020 #11
I don't care. All I care about with respect to any candidate The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #12
He has a better chance one on one against Trump than Sanders does. Blue_true Feb 2020 #13
The gun laws that sit in Moscow Mitch's crypt for the foreseeable future? liskddksil Feb 2020 #16
You keep skipping over his big support for candidates in 16, 17 and 18, Blue_true Feb 2020 #19
He was donating to GOP Republicans including Steve King in 2018. Bloomberg is not a friend of the liskddksil Feb 2020 #20
If he gets rid of Trump and get lots of democrats elected to Congress, he is Blue_true Feb 2020 #21
We need someone who can win...if it is between Sanders and Bloomberg...I choose Bloomberg. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #17
I don't support Sanders and I agree endorsing George W. Bush, Susan Collins and Pat Toomey liskddksil Feb 2020 #18
It would be shittier to nominate a candidate who the GOP is all in for and given Trump four more Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #25
And consider if the Green /left had supported Gore and not fucking Nader ... we would still have Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #27
I'll say it again, this talk of Bloomberg being our nominee is absolutely nuts. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #26
Why worry? He has pledged to spend on Democrats delisen Feb 2020 #31
Who's worried? I just said that the Bloomberg talk is nutty. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #32
 

delisen

(6,044 posts)
1. Is he endorsing Collins in 2020?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:01 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
2. The damage is done nt
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:01 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

delisen

(6,044 posts)
14. Can you prove collins would have lost in 2014 if. Bloomberg did not endorse?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:36 PM
Feb 2020

I don't think so.

It is 2020. Bloomberg is a huge supporter of the Democratic party and democrats.

He is not criticising our party. He is fighting Trump. I can't waste my vote by using it as a punishment. I need to use it to combat the clear and present danger today.

There is no candidate with whom i agree 100%. If Bloomberg can win for the party I will support him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
15. Bloomberg should run for the Republican nomination then nt
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 10:59 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
3. Don't care. Will still take him any day of the week over Sanders.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:02 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
22. It's painful to walk around...
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:27 PM
Feb 2020

with so much hate in your heart.

Although I'm not a Biden supporter, I would vote for him over Bloomberg with all the bull $*** he's done to my community. That hurts to think of someone in that way, I feel the same about him as I do Trump, hatred is bad for your health.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
23. Sanders Berned all bridges to me in 2016
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:42 PM
Feb 2020

I'd hold my nose and vote for him in the GE if it came to that.

Nothing else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
24. How?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:43 PM
Feb 2020

I've been trying trying to figure that out, I'm late to the game.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
28. If you need to ask that after what I've posted, you will never be capable of understanding.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:46 PM
Feb 2020

It would take too long to lay out all the ways I consider Sanders the entire reason we have Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
30. Yeah, perhaps you're right...
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:58 PM
Feb 2020

maybe I'm too dumb to understand. What you said above told me nothing.

I only came back to this board when it was time to elect a new President and found everybody hating on Bernie.
I'm confused as hell.

But thanks anyway for your kindness.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Ace Rothstein

(3,183 posts)
29. They blame Bernie for Hillary losing.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:53 PM
Feb 2020

It is nonsense but many here believe it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
33. Thank you for sharing...
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:09 AM
Feb 2020

WOW... and Hillary is still talking about it too in 2020?

When Trump won, I didn't want to think about politics, so I stop listening or reading anything about it until it was time to elect a new President. Then I came back here, I thought among friends. Probably a big mistake I guess.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
34. I consider him 100% of the reason why Hillary lost
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:14 AM
Feb 2020

All in an egotistical move to get the nomination this year after Trump won.

EVERY Democrat I know agrees and more than 4 out of 5 swear they will never vote Sanders in a GE regardless.

And quite frankly, I have absolutely no way to convince them to do what I would do in that situation and just buck up, hold their noses and vote for him..

As I said, he has Berned a lot of bridges in the past five years.

My biggest fear is a good percentage will just sit out the election and let the chips fall where they may at all levels instead of just not voting for the top of the ticket and hitting all the Dems below. Should Sanders be nominated, that will be where my main focus will be, those who decide they will sit it all out. I want to get them to at least show up and vote for the down ticket races, all the while hoping that while in the booth they will finally decide to just buck up, hold their nose, and vote for the guy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
4. Maybe Bloomberg is a Democrat of convenience...
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:03 PM
Feb 2020

imagine that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Voltaire2

(13,124 posts)
5. hey I've read right here that he's a REAL Democrat
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:06 PM
Feb 2020

unlike that other guy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
6. He's currently kicking Donald Trump's pasty ass
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:06 PM
Feb 2020

six ways from Sunday, all by himself.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ebbie15644

(1,216 posts)
7. Backed Toomey over McGinty also
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:06 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,335 posts)
8. Yep.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:09 PM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg Is a Democrat With a History of Backing Republicans — Including In 2018

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2019/12/03/michael-bloomberg-political-donations-republicans-history-president-run

Last year, there were seven swing districts in New York and Bloomberg supported Republicans in two of them," Democratic political consultant Monica Klein said.

Klein was a spokeswoman for Democrat Liuba Grechen Shirley, who waged a spirited challenge against Long Island Congressman Pete King, a longtime Bloomberg ally.

"Pete King…has always been a standup guy," Bloomberg said in a 2011 news conference at City Hall.

Bloomberg backed King, hosting a fundraiser for him. King won by six points.

Bloomberg also backed another longtime Republican ally, Staten Island Congressman Dan Donovan, in his unsuccessful re-election bid against Democrat Max Rose.

But Rose holds no grudge; he told us that the Democratic Party should welcome all, no matter their past affiliations.

"I have no problem with people who are independent thinkers and who choose to support people who are at times across the aisle," Rose said.

What Bloomberg Did — and Didn't Do — When It Came to Taxing Wealthier People
As mayor,Bloomberg endorsed President George W. Bush for re-election over Democrat John Kerry.

"The president deserves our support," he said in 2004.

Bloomberg helped Republicans maintain their slim majority in the state Senate, where they successfully blocked progressive legislation for years.


And as Democrats seek to win control of the U.S. Senate, it's notable how many Republican senators Bloomberg has backed in recent years:

Pennsylvania Sen. Pat Toomey
Late-Arizona Sen. John McCain
Maine Sen. Susan Collins
Former Illinois Sen. Mark Kirk
Former Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, among others. And as Democrats seek to win control of the U.S. Senate, it's notable how many Republican senators Bloomberg has backed in recent years:

Pennsylvania Sen. Pat Toomey
Late-Arizona Sen. John McCain
Maine Sen. Susan Collins
Former Illinois Sen. Mark Kirk
Former Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch,
among others.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,335 posts)
9. Yep.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:10 PM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg Is a Democrat With a History of Backing Republicans — Including In 2018

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2019/12/03/michael-bloomberg-political-donations-republicans-history-president-run

Last year, there were seven swing districts in New York and Bloomberg supported Republicans in two of them," Democratic political consultant Monica Klein said.

Klein was a spokeswoman for Democrat Liuba Grechen Shirley, who waged a spirited challenge against Long Island Congressman Pete King, a longtime Bloomberg ally.

"Pete King…has always been a standup guy," Bloomberg said in a 2011 news conference at City Hall.

Bloomberg backed King, hosting a fundraiser for him. King won by six points.

Bloomberg also backed another longtime Republican ally, Staten Island Congressman Dan Donovan, in his unsuccessful re-election bid against Democrat Max Rose.

But Rose holds no grudge; he told us that the Democratic Party should welcome all, no matter their past affiliations.

"I have no problem with people who are independent thinkers and who choose to support people who are at times across the aisle," Rose said.

What Bloomberg Did — and Didn't Do — When It Came to Taxing Wealthier People
As mayor,Bloomberg endorsed President George W. Bush for re-election over Democrat John Kerry.

"The president deserves our support," he said in 2004.

Bloomberg helped Republicans maintain their slim majority in the state Senate, where they successfully blocked progressive legislation for years.


And as Democrats seek to win control of the U.S. Senate, it's notable how many Republican senators Bloomberg has backed in recent years:

Pennsylvania Sen. Pat Toomey
Late-Arizona Sen. John McCain
Maine Sen. Susan Collins
Former Illinois Sen. Mark Kirk
Former Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, among others.
.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
11. And he may be your nominee
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:25 PM
Feb 2020

So you may just have to swallow that and pull the lever for him. Like many people have done for various candidates over the years. He's not a mob boss and he's not working to undermine our democracy to my knowledge. He's not my choice for many reasons but if he ends up being it then he's got my vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,829 posts)
12. I don't care. All I care about with respect to any candidate
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:25 PM
Feb 2020

is whether they can beat Trump. I don't like Bloomberg much and I hope he's not the nominee, but he has a much better chance of winning than Sanders. If I had to choose between them (and that's not likely) I'd pick Bloomberg.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. He has a better chance one on one against Trump than Sanders does.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:30 PM
Feb 2020

And Bloomberg poured lots of money into democratic races in 2016, 2017 and 2018. And he has campaigned strongly for sane gun laws. Why didn't you mention all of that?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
16. The gun laws that sit in Moscow Mitch's crypt for the foreseeable future?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:00 PM
Feb 2020

Because Susan and Pat Toomey (another Bloomberg endorsement) voted for Majority Leader Moscow Mitch.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. You keep skipping over his big support for candidates in 16, 17 and 18,
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:07 PM
Feb 2020

Democratic candidates. People change, maybe he saw Collins and the Penn Senator as something other than the spineless asses that they have turned out to be. When I was in college, I supported a republican over a democrat because she had a big reputation on consumer advocacy, she won and slowly drifted toward batshit crazy, and I have never cast a vote for a republican since.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
20. He was donating to GOP Republicans including Steve King in 2018. Bloomberg is not a friend of the
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:09 PM
Feb 2020

Democratic Party in any way shape or form.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. If he gets rid of Trump and get lots of democrats elected to Congress, he is
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:19 PM
Feb 2020

my friend. I just see this situation vastly different from you. I want Trump defeated and a majority in the House and Senate, Bloomberg can deliver that better than Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,643 posts)
17. We need someone who can win...if it is between Sanders and Bloomberg...I choose Bloomberg.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:01 PM
Feb 2020

No matter how much shit is dug up by those who support Sanders... I don't care. Trump must go.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
18. I don't support Sanders and I agree endorsing George W. Bush, Susan Collins and Pat Toomey
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:04 PM
Feb 2020

and costing us 5 Supreme Court is s*&t

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,643 posts)
25. It would be shittier to nominate a candidate who the GOP is all in for and given Trump four more
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:44 PM
Feb 2020

years and probably lose the house...I 'll take Bloomberg...and the Senate and House.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,643 posts)
27. And consider if the Green /left had supported Gore and not fucking Nader ... we would still have
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:45 PM
Feb 2020

courts...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
26. I'll say it again, this talk of Bloomberg being our nominee is absolutely nuts.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:45 PM
Feb 2020

Where do the pro-Bloomberg people think he's going to win on Super Tuesday? How does he win a majority of pledged delegates?

Wanting Bloomberg over Sanders is irrelevant. Show me how Bloomberg hypothetically and realistically wins a majority of the pledged delegates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

delisen

(6,044 posts)
31. Why worry? He has pledged to spend on Democrats
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:07 AM
Feb 2020

Even if he does not win.

His support for down ticket Dems is fabulous.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
32. Who's worried? I just said that the Bloomberg talk is nutty.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:08 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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