Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forum***WHOA NELLY*** Pete All Closes the Gap Against Bernie in New Hamphsire-BS 24% MP 23% EW 13 JB 11%
Sanders 24% ()
Buttigieg 23% (+12 since Monday)
Warren 13% ()
Biden 11% (-7)
Klobuchar 6% ()
Gabbard 4% (-1)
Steyer 3% (-1)
Yang 3%https://t.co/oREQLnWyiN
https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/02/06/new-hampshire-primary-tracking-poll-pete-buttigieg-bernie-sanders-tied/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dsc
(52,166 posts)one we like but still one poll.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Among the liberals in the party (reflected in Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary), Mayor Pete is the preferred center-lane candidate. This does not shock me.
Wait until Super Tuesday. We'll know a lot more about the party as a whole then.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
frazzled
(18,402 posts)is that, whether or not it's decided who "won" in Iowa (Buttigieg or Sanders), which was essentially a tie, and whether polls such as this suggesting Buttigieg is rising in a New England state that is home territory to both Sanders and Warren are deemed accurate, that there has been absolutely no media narrative at all about this young mayor since Monday.
After all, it should be a story: a young person who came out of nowhere to run for president appears to have risen to the top in the first two primary states (as much as I, and others, discount the importance of these two states.) But there is none. My spouse says that this is what happens in sports media: if they've developed a narrative in which one team was predicted to win, but then end up losing, the after-game reporting still focuses on the once touted coach and players of the losing team. The narrative can't be upended. Thus all the stories are about Biden and Sanders rather than anything about Buttigieg. It's weird.
And there's another story that has remained pretty much silent. How much of the loss of Biden's earlier lead is attributable to the impeachment sullying about Burisma and his son? Even if people know it to be sheer mendacity, they are likely to see it as something that would become a big drag in the general ... and, understandably, everybody is focused on looking for a win, no matter who the candidate.
These are just my thoughts these past few days as I scan the New York Times and others. Is it impossible for the media horse-wagon to change narrative streams in mid-course? I guess not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Excellent question.
Something evaporated Biden's dominating lead, he was the polling frontrunner for months on end. But now polls, and more importantly, actual voting has suddenly swung against him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)He started with so many assets, paramount among them is he was the vice president to an iconic president among Democrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)If the Biden Campaign is indeed falling out of contention, where will his supporters go?
To 38 year old Buttigieg?
To Billionaire Bloomberg?
To Democratic Socialist Sanders?
or... maybe... a consensus candidate like... Senator Elizabeth Warren?
Shameless plug, I know.
But think about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,659 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)He needs a miracle.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)But Time will Tell.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,659 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bluewater
(5,376 posts)But actual voting seems to be running a bit different so far.
I mean, what the heck, Joe was the stand out front runner in all the polls for months on end.
Time will tell.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunasun
(21,646 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)She will never be left 1v1 against Bernie. Because Bloomberg doesnt have to beg for $ from donors.
If you are waiting for Biden to crater so you get his voters, keep dreaming. Thats what Pete, Amy and Bloomberg are waiting for too.
If Warren wants to be president, shes got to go through Sanders first. If he becomes the progressive pick, she is toast.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Well talk, as they say, is cheap.
Let's see if he can do better than 4th in New Hampshire first.
One contest at a time, since they tend to have a cascading impact on voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)before South Carolina. If he loses that, he is done. But not before that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)But that doesn't mean we should ignore the actual voting trends that are emerging.
But of course all the candidates will campaign thru Super Tuesday.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)There was one unrepresentative flawed caucus with substantial reporting problems.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)We will see next Tuesday.
Racially diverse Nevada after that in the middle of the month.
Then heavily weighted to African American voters SC is at the end of the month.
It's the trend coming out of Iowa and those 3 race we should not ignore.
As for Iowa being unrepresentative, it is 90% white, that is true. But all the candidates were white except for Andrew Yang, so that is not a good excuse to wave away Biden's poor 4th place finish. Our Democratic base is over 60% white voters after all, we can't just discount them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OneMoreCupOfCoffee
(314 posts)Dick Lane.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)And a woman would be great like Susan Rice or Kamala Harris.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tandem5
(2,072 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tandem5
(2,072 posts)I thought I would just use the same narrative rules that are applied to non Bernie candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Green Line
(1,123 posts)I have a subscription, I read the Globe every day, they have been strongly anti Biden since he entered the race.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)My heart swells with joy because he won the delegate count as an out and proud member of the LGBTQ community.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Encouraging but I wouldnt overweight it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marlakay
(11,498 posts)Its a senior pundit political class. I was off last time thought Biden would do better.
My predictions for NH are the same as this poll for first 4. Except I think Warren will be number 2 Pete number 3. Because I heard most NH dem votes are Boston suburbs.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
William769
(55,148 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden