Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(41,987 posts)(Me too)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mme. Defarge
(8,034 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(41,987 posts)I got alerted on for bashing a Democratic figure for posting a campaign video of Warren (whom I like a lot) hugging people like crazy. I suppose I should have said it wasnt meant to bash her, just to point out that politicians hug. Oh well. We live in nervous times.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)The problem is theirs and they should talk to their therapist.
Beyond them hoping they get the help they need I just do not care.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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TruckFump
(5,812 posts)Would I like Joe Biden to come up behind me and nuzzle me????
OH, MY GAWD.....................YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dr. Jill is one lucky lady and I can dream!!!! And at my age, I would just blush and stammer like crazy for attention like that. Make me feel young again!!! WooooooooHoooooooooo!!!!
Blush..........
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I mean, I truly understand your wish not to be touched by people. A lot of people feel that way, but the person who wrote the OP was talking about getting a hug from Biden. You know, coming up to him and getting a hug. I don't think she was talking about being grabbed from behind by surprise.
A lot of people consider such a hug from a prominent person to be a great thing. Even a handshake from a future President is something people remember all their lives with pride. I got to shake Jimmy Carter's hand on a plane once. It was a surprisingly moving experience, which I did not expect it to be.
Joe Biden doesn't know you. He isn't campaigning for your as you run for office. He hasn't spent time at a campaign function with you, as you took selfies with him standing on a stage. Joe Biden, I guarantee, is not going to walk up behind you and put his hands on your shoulders and kiss you on the head. He wouldn't do that.
On the other hand, if you came up to him, face to face, and said, "I'm so voting for you in this year's primaries," he might give you a basic hug, which is what the original poster is talking about.
If you had campaigned for an office of your own with him and spent considerable time with him doing that, he might do the other thing on an impulse. You're never going to be in that position, though, so he'll never do that to you.
So, you won't have to castrate Joe Biden, I'm sure.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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lark
(23,121 posts)What about all the pictures of Bernie actually breathing on her with his head over her shoulder and his hand solidly gripping her there?
This is 100% a total political hit job by a female Bernie Bro and I'm sick of it. She was part of the 2016 campaign and said nothing then because Bernie was ahead. Now that Bernie's behind, she gets the vapors? Sorry, I used to be a rape counselor and it doesn't work like that.
First his people attack Beto, now Biden. Anyone who's a front runner is in danger from these folks and as a Democrat, I don't appreciate it one bit.
And he still hasn't released his taxes - 3 years later!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)and rightly so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Socal31
(2,484 posts)To assume what we want/desire/approve of should be adopted by everyone else?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Anything beyond that would make me uncomfortable.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)But did not get a chance to get a picture with him with his arm around me. But I found him genuine and caring.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)I think he is wonderful and I don't like the attacks on him one damn bit!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aristus
(66,394 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mopinko
(70,135 posts)i would hate to lose them.
as a hospice volunteer, i pass out a lot of hugs. a lot.
some not completely socially acceptable in other situations. when i hug you, you are hugged w no reserve.
i almost always ask first, and have good radar for who wants a hug. but sometimes someone just needs a damn hug, and i dont just walk past that.
i feel bad for people who dont like hugs. i usually can spot them. i try to comfort them anyway, somehow.
damn people. we need more hugs.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)that said that men can't hug, or show their feelings.
Biden is great product of those times: warm, caring, and demonstrative. Even those who have been "offended" say that they knew that it wasn't sexual or malicious.
We used to be about breaking down barriers, and if someone went too far, you just let them know. Now, if you put one toe over the line, you are pilloried.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mme. Defarge
(8,034 posts)Thats exactly how it was.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,833 posts)And indeed sad. During my youth, men were encouraged to be more demonstrative, affectionate. It was a time of breaking down barriers between the sexes, revealing your emotions. No more stiff upper lips and/or the 'carrying on' mode even when things were dreadful.
Now we're into building walls.
As for hugs? We need more, not less.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Never have I wanted a hug from any of them.
I never got the swooning over Obama. Or anyone for that matter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,623 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PDittie
(8,322 posts)the point Lucy Flores made. She also spoke only for herself.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,339 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mme. Defarge
(8,034 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sacto95834
(393 posts)...you remind me of the Trump supporter who had a shirt that read, "Trump can grab my P**** anytime."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mme. Defarge
(8,034 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sacto95834
(393 posts)i shouldn't have said that....just reaction to something I found minimizing what the women who came forward had to go through. But on reflection I was wrong to dismiss your feelings. All kinds of people in this world.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mme. Defarge
(8,034 posts)Apology accepted with humility and gratitude. 😘
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,339 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,339 posts)Link to tweet
Its not clear this was even necessary. Other than journalists, it was hard to find anyone who honestly thought Biden is a hugger was news; it surely wasnt new. Even Republicans had come to his rescue. Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), in a reminder of the old Lindsey Graham, remarked, I just want to say Joe Biden is my friend, and I know him very well, and whatever he did it may have been inappropriate but it was not driven by malice or misconduct. Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) also vouched for him, as has Meghan McCain.
Biden conveyed in his message why he touches people to soothe, empathize and encourage. In saying that he would resist the notion that politics has to be antiseptic, he showed that hes in public service not for glory but to help others. In short, he helped voters remember the positive qualities hes well known for, which even political opponents attest to.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mme. Defarge
(8,034 posts)Thank you!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,339 posts)Link to tweet
Why am I telling another Biden being Biden story? Because I believe that the character of the person who occupies the Oval Office is of the utmost importance, and because I believe that Biden, far from a bad man, is an unusually good one.....
Bidens disregard of this protocol is telling. He enters a room, just as he enters a debate about union rights or domestic violence, with a predisposition to lend an ear to the least powerful.
Judging from the reaction to the recent spate of Biden stories, time is up on avuncular attention, now interpreted as at best pernicious paternalism and at worst septuagenarian sexual harassment. In the cultural revolution under way in America, men like Biden are invited to offer their head if their prior actions deviated from the new norms.
No doubt, character counts. I, for one, admire Bidens deviant decency.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,339 posts)Link to tweet
I was anxious, sad, and seriously swollen with emotion but was able to get a chance to meet the Vice President. Many of the local Democrats remarked what are YOU doing here? when I showed up in line at his photo opportunity. I explained my affection for VP Biden because of what I had been through, and no one blinked an eye, everyone understood. He was a good man. No matter your party.
When my turn came up to have my brief meet-and-greet and photo taken with Vice President Biden, I was nervous. Why AM I here?? But immediately, he knew my story (his staff had briefed him) and he brought me in for a long, big hug. It was exactly what I needed. We discussed Beau and my father. We talked about the recent loss of my mother he understood family tragedy. He was close, nose to nose at times and hand in hand, but it was in that personal touch that I KNEW he was a human. Not a Vice President, or a politician, or someone that was giving a speech later that night. He was a real person, who had been through real things. Just like me. We mustve talked for five minutes far more than the paying Democrat contributors got! but it was so genuine, no one would complain. Especially Mr. Biden, communicating and comparing stories with me was clearly a highlight for him amidst his political duties. I left with a giant smile on my face, the first in days, and was uplifted for a long time after. I met my hero, and he was exactly what I had expected him to be.
My point in telling this story is that, while Vice President Biden has a very personal and affectionate way about him, it is only because he loves people. He loves peoples stories. Man, woman, child. Father, mother, son, daughter, spouse. He knows people are hurting and can relate and offer genuine support. And human touch is the most basic form of relaying that. There is no ulterior motive he just wants to get close to everyone. Because he cares about their stories. And is human. And THAT is what matters most and crosses all party lines.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden