... the VP's job to that of a Mayor in Indiana? It doesn't make sense... also, this is the first I've heard Pete doesn't like African Americans and wants them to lose their jobs. I don't believe it's true...

https://apnews.com/03c58d5429448bfbf78cfb76fe682d24

Made his town a bit more pleasant to live in.

I don't get the pet chip thing but I know he has rescue dogs so maybe its something that will make them more adoptable.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

This is the record they're both running on, unless someone disputes the facts presented here.

articles.

The gloves are obviously off!

It's going down!



That was a very cutting and effective political attack ad.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

Pounding one of our/their own while Trump merrily chugs along.

Do these people not know who the real enemy is??!?!?

pulling the lever for him in the primary.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

tRumpy The Clown... Joe should immediately pull that ad from the air!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

He doesn't attack his fellow primary candidates, instead he's campaigning on his own accomplishments. It's refreshing to see a candidate that chooses not to engage in 6th grade insult trading.

Another thing I appreciate is Bloomberg's laser like focus on hitting Trump and how it's working.

Joe Biden has decided to vett Pete Buttigieg after Pet's disparaging comments of his record.

This ad is Instant Karma.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

Buttigieg's experience is nonexistent beyond mayor. He is the least qualified.

Pete's a very smart guy with a bright future ahead of him. When comes to being the most powerful person in the world and repairing the damage trump has done, Pete is totally over his head and out of his lane. Someday he might well be qualified for the job. Right now he clearly isn't.

runner by some going into N.H. from his win in Iowa

This is the primaries

Link to tweet

?s=20

And of course I know Pete's accomplished more than the ad shows.

But there's no way his resume and experience are close to Biden's.

The same is true of Pete's resume and experience compared to Bloomberg's.

Or Klobuchar's.

Maybe Mayor Pete should rethink calling candidates out for being in Washington too long, the place where he's dying to reside.

See, he’s GAY so he decorates sidewalks and bridges to make them PRETTY!

is simply highlighting the importance of the work he's done, versus what Buttigieg has done, and why shouldn't he?

that aren’t typically associated with homosexuals? Rainbow colors?

five articles they linked to were:

Downtown South Bend has been transformed but challenges lie ahead

https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/local/downtown-south-bend-has-been-transformed-but-challenges-lie-ahead/article_d0087d0f-4207-5497-b673-2847b6293e3a.html

Lights, parks, public spaces: Trying to create 'special places' to lure people to South Bend

https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/local/lights-parks-public-spaces-trying-to-create-special-places-to/article_3fbf35fd-47ba-5364-ad75-b2d17efa892e.html




So that's what the South Bend paper emphasized, in two of the five articles.

Headlines of the other three articles:

Fewer crimes reported in South Bend but shootings linger as fears remain for some

What now for South Bend neighborhoods after '1,000 houses in 1,000 days'?

Poverty, income, population: Do the stats reflect Buttigieg's legacy in South Bend?


Link to the general article linking to the stories above:

https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/local/pete-buttigieg-legacy-is-south-bend-really-a-turnaround-city/article_15cb46c0-f76a-5f5c-b721-2dbba19d0be3.html


Btw, what Pete did is normal stuff for a mayor to do. Good for him for doing it. But his resume isn't at all in the same league as Biden's.

As indeed it was.

By the way, the word “decorative” is standard in the industry. Choosing to use it in a political ad as a dogwhistle is not.

of hues from the lights on its company page about the project:

https://www.shakespearelighting.com/project/south-bend-river-lights/

People do use the word "rainbow" to refer to changing lights and colors without it always (or even often) being a reference to being gay.

As does the constant bring up of how he can’t win black voters. Stop putting LGBT persons against our black brothers and sisters please it doesn’t help the party and it most definitely does not help minorities.

Link to tweet

Black voters are reduced to a talking point repeatedly on these forums. Hispanic-Latino voting blocks aren't even considered on an average day.

Thanks for speaking up about this.

I showed my husband, and he didn’t think so. It struck me as subtly button-pushing.

and should be pulled!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

I think it's simply trying to compare the role of the a small town mayor to VP of the US. Although, I really don't understand the the message they are sending out with it.

better than anyone, Biden included, so far has

Pete's gracious defense of him and his son. The first thing he did was put out an attack ad against Pete.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

makes me "like" Buttigieg much more than Biden. Team Biden better watch it -- this sort of shit can backfire.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

like too many mayors in our country? First-hand with natural or man-made disasters? Where was Biden during Katrina? 9/11? That ad was a low blow and I'm glad to hear it's backfiring.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

now reality is setting in.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

in the way that it unfairly characterizes Mayor Pete's accomplishments.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

I can't believe I actually just lost some respect for Biden.

I kind of think he deserves it far more than Biden...

one of their parents decided to switch her vote from Joe to Mayor Pete in the upcoming primary. Looks like the ad may backfire bigtime on Biden's campaign.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

It might hurt Pete but it’s unlikely to do Biden any favors either. Only people likely to benefit are Bloomberg and (indirectly) Bernie.

and it shows.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

'Mr Electable' is tracking at 5th Place.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images/3AANd9GcQX9F3ldUgyyYGw0t5uhnqa32xqac80okAf0FtZT6a1zLJzsz5r

http://emersonpolling.com/2020/02/09/new-hampshire-2020-tracking-poll-night-7-debate-shifts-momentum-for-candidates-but-sanders-stays-in-strong-position/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-hampshire-battleground-tracker-poll-sanders-support-v-buttigieg-bounce/

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

of Biden in New Hampshire and he goes full molten blast mode on Pete, as moderate and liberals will gravitate towards her overall positive message.

I keep hearing the 'decorative lights' part of that Biden advert played over and over on the MSM, and it has definitive dog whistle undertones the way it was done. Disappointing to put it lightly.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

Don't need someone who needs training ..to be President...we need to take over day one,,,,That's Joe. We already have one in the white house now...

Perfect emoji.

Especially post-NH. This ad seems designed to get him through the weekend. It won’t.

You want to downsize Pete, at least choose examples that reflect poorly on his judgment. Animal protection and town beautification aren’t trivial things either; implying otherwise is to throw in with soulless yahoos. What a stupid, tone-deaf ad.

Those are nice quality-of-life things. But it does beg the question: how is it logical to go from that experience straight to the Presidency with nothing in between? I think that's what the Biden ad is asking.

It reminds me of the time Obama mocked Trump for his important decision on whether to fire Meatloaf just hours after Obama took out Osama bin Laden.

I love Mayor Pete (he's my #3 choice) Biden has the real presidential experience.

infinitely better than Trump.

I love Pete, too, but his experience just doesn't compare to Biden's.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

You think this is an attack.. As I said in another one of these threads is Pete attacked Joe all the time in Iowa.. And if you think this is an attack.. God help you.. If Pete stays in the lead they are coming for him hammer and tongs.. they are trying to destroy Joes last living son.. Guys that is an attack..

Attack ads are a particular thing and this is one of them. There is no other way to describe it.

So much for Joe's pledge... not that I care, because it's already backfired!! Do you know whether Bloomberg has taken the pledge, as a precondition of his running for the Democratic nomination?


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

Bernie's gotta love it.

How the Media Is Getting Mayor Pete's Gentrification Story Wrong

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/04/21/how-the-media-is-getting-mayor-petes-south-bend-gentrification-story-wrong/

South Bend, Indiana was a prosperous manufacturing town through much of the 20th century. It achieved a measure of fame for hosting the auto plant that built the Studebaker. But as the economy changed, so did the town’s fortunes. Between 1960 and 2010, its population plummeted by nearly 25 percent. Left in the wake of mass departure and economic stagnation was a rash of urban blight: thousands of homes and other buildings stood vacant, left to disrepair. With blight came decreased home values and a rise in crime.

South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, now a Democratic presidential candidate, launched an initiative in February 2013 he called “1,000 Homes, 1,000 Days.” The goal: identify 1,000 vacant or abandoned homes (about a third of the total) and either demolish or repair them. By November 2015, 427 homes “were repaired, 569 were demolished, 10 were deconstructed, 6 were set aside for repair by community development corporations, and 110 were under contract for demolition,” according to the Department of Housing and Urban Development, which provided a block grant supporting the initiative. If Buttigieg’s reelection with 75 percent of the vote is anything to go by, South Bend’s citizens have signaled their approval. The city’s population has steadily increased since 2013.

Buttigieg has made the initiative’s success a centerpiece of his presidential campaign, so it should be no surprise that journalists have looked into it. But two remarkably similar stories published last week—in Buzzfeed and on CNN.com—said the initiative “smacked of gentrification.” That this odd phrase appeared verbatim in both stories is perhaps interesting. (Buzzfeed’s Henry Gomez, who published his piece first, should wonder where CNN’s Dan Merica and Vanessa Yurkevich got their inspiration.) What’s puzzling, however, is the decision to frame the demolition and rehabilitation of vacant and abandoned homes as akin to displacing minority communities. (Judging from 2011 and 2019 population estimates, no displacement appears to have occurred. What’s more, it’s hard to displace people from homes where no one was living.)

The two major challenges Buttigieg’s initiative faced were the town’s lackadaisical enforcement of building code violations and absentee owners of the targeted homes. One of the initiative’s biggest obstacles was determining if the blighted properties’ owners were both sufficiently willing and able to improve them. Both the Buzzfeed and CNN stories lean heavily on two sources: Stacey Odom and Regina Williams-Preston, two African American women who had purchased blighted properties. Odom purchased one, which she hoped to fix up and make her own home, without knowing that the initiative had already slated it for demolition. Williams-Preston had purchased three vacant homes “with plans to refurbish them and either sell them for a profit or create a business, like a day care for local kids,” CNN reported. Sadly, her husband fell seriously ill and money that would’ve gone toward their investment went toward health care instead.

Both stories strike a decidedly oppositional tone. Buzzfeed seemed particularly intent on framing the story as a conflict between a robotic, white, impersonal politician and a black community. (The word “data,” and the mayor’s abiding interest in it, somehow became grounds for opprobrium.) Ironically, both stories show Buttigieg to have been an exceptional leader. Odom struggled to get her property off the demo list, but then, as CNN reports, she had a chance encounter with Buttigieg. What happened next was governance par excellence:

snip

accusation, especially when the homes are abandoned and/or unfit anyway for anyone to live in them. This is the same kind of urban environment any reasonable sized city has (in STLMO we do). Oftentimes, the population moving into the rehabbed homes are young, urban couples of all types seeking the excitement of city life and all of the attractions available. Another, surprising population type moving back into these restored environment is many older, retired couples. They too, are seeking the lifestyle of the urban environment, the restaurants, the museums, the arts district, the history, etc. They love the safety of the restored neighborhoods, the walking of their dogs, the chatting w/ next door neighbors, etc.

It does take a certain kind of energy to spearhead such things (and Pete B. seems to have it) but the vast overall energy and credit in the rehabbing efforts comes from the people/residents on the ground themselves, wanting a piece of the American pie but not at an astronomical price (sweat equity). We see this everywhere in urban centers across the country. Sometimes it does someone to step up to the plate and get everyone excited, and then the momentum takes off.

Others don't mind paying for the rehab by contractors. It's a mix of DIY and contractors, along w/ city agencies (in STLMO situation, and probably in South Bend's situation too) where they can help (e.g., establish clear titles help with trash, strict enforcement of building codes and inspections, and/or other government services if needed, etc.).

The only thing one needs to be aware of, is the HUD/and other federal housing traps. By trap, what I mean is that when these agencies (the whole alphabet soup of agencies) got involved with rehab efforts, the costs spiraled to an insane $1,000,000 buck a house, when in STLMO, we did an audit of rehabbed homes!! Definitely going the wrong direction. This is not rehabbing, but breaking the bank. Maybe a case of too much government. Immediate steps were undertaken to address this, and I'm not sure what they were (the steps), but yikes! Ridiculous.

With the city urban environment, a lot of properties the landlords just walk away from (the properties get too old, and they don't want to put the money back into them to fix them up), and no longer pay their taxes (remember, most of these homes are in LLCs), who are mostly slum lords (this is what I'm calling them), and you would be surprised who these people really are.

They are 'regular' people, mostly living in places far away (and certainly not there!), but don't put any money back into the property, don't fix up the property, don't care about the neighborhood, in short, put in as little money as possible. All they want is their monthly rent checks. And their property agents, they are just as bad. No repairs means more money for you in your pockets.

If you want my opinion, these people need to have the book thrown at them, they caused a lot of the problems facing these urban environments). Fortunately in STLMO, they did (started throwing the book at the absentee owners), by fines, by court orders, by seizing properties, etc., the whole spectrum of remedies available to the city.

Overall, the two major neighborhoods I lived in (22,000 and 18,000 households) have generated tons of rehabbed work and brought literally thousands of homes up to par, made whole swaths of STLMO much more desirable (e.g., Tower Grove Park), revitalized whole neighbors in total, and brought a new kind of energy, and a huge economic engine that still going, and causing other surrounding neighborhoods to be pulled into the rehab excitement. A tremendous amount of money if you think about it, I value (when I drive around the neighborhood) each rehab dumpster at a minimum of $100,000 in rehab work going on in that house. And I see dozens and dozens of them all over, and have seen these for the last 15 years or so.

A good thing. No long term city involvement caused this (or if they were, they only did a tiny,tiny portion). Just a bunch of DIY, w/ sweat equity doing it all.

and two terms as Vice President are as meaningless as you suggest, then who IS qualified to be President? Unless you're being sarcastic?

It's effective and nothing anymore harsh from past campaigns. I don't see the problem? Politics has always been ruthless and we need to get rough to be ready to face Trump.

Keep Pete's AA numbers below 5%.

Second of all, Joe doesn't have to be gracious that Pete decided not to destroy his own political career as a Democratic politician on stage last night by attacking Hunter Biden. Do you really think that he had the choice of joining folks like Sean Hannity and Donald Trump to lambast the party's former VP?

this sort of nasty shit has a way backfiring and turning off voters.

At the same time, he can't finish too far behind Buttigieg. Biden's in a tough spot.

If Sanders wins NH, Buttigieg comes in second and Biden is a distant third (or worse), Nevada will not go well for Biden. Next thing you know, he's struggling to hang on in South Carolina. Snowball effect.

Buttigieg's alienation of Black folks is keeping Biden's hopes alive, which is why Sanders losing New Hampshire would likely benefit Biden. Because if Buttigieg wins NH, the wind is taken out of the Sanders sail and Biden can still win South Carolina with ease. But if Sanders wins NH and then Nevada and Biden hasn't come anywhere close to winning in any of the first three contests, Biden is probably finished.

So, for Biden, his best bet at this point is to finish a fairly close 3rd in NH and for Buttigieg to win NH. That would boost Biden's chances in NV. He could then win SC and possibly have a good Super Tuesday.

But a distant 3rd place finish with Sanders winning and Buttigieg a close 2nd would be really bad for Biden. 4th place for Biden and he's probably done.

I think he would be an excellent addition to Biden's administration. I just don't think he has the chops yet to be the leader on the international stage, or here at home. Kind of like Beto was--well liked, good future, but not ready right now. I think that's basically what this ad is saying.

Cleaning the world of trump's stench is going to take someone that is already known and trusted.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

That is horrible. I think I stopped it before the end. Biden is running off Obama's coattails, and he is no Obama, either. That is a horrible ad. Just horrible. Still shaking my head. Wish I had not clicked on it cause it really changes how I think of Biden. Horrible.

and, frankly, shows signs of desperation. Why do it, especially in violation of the oath Joe took not to negatively campaign against his fellow Democrats? I don't get it!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

But I am surprised Biden would resort to this. He is certainly running hard off Obama's coattail.

I expect you'll see Joe go further down in the polls after this latest move.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

And his attack ads will only hurt him more now as many are running from him now. When his money dries up , which it will , he'll be done.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

You have to produce. That’s why I was able to be a senator for 36 years.” — March 29, 2012

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/02/joe-biden-bidenisms-103689

I think that ad was Joe being terribly unfair. I'm disappointed with it.

I don't see how Joe recovers from this, especially with Bloomberg waiting in the wings to replace him.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

-Laelth

Pete mostly having small town experience doesn't equate to not thinking highly of the Obama administration. Kind of a weird message to pass along with that ad. I mean, unless I am missing something that wasn't explicitly mentioned in the ad.

Not so much of that lately.