Democratic Primaries
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Pete Buttigieg has narrowly edged out Bernie Sanders for delegates from last weeks Iowa caucuses, Politico reports.
According to the state Democratic Party, Buttigieg is projected to win 14 delegates to the national convention this summer in Milwaukee, while Sanders will get 12 delegates. Warren will receive eight delegates, Joe Biden will get six, and Amy Klobuchar will receive a single delegate.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/09/iowa-democrats-buttigieg-edges-sanders-for-delegates-112965
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,641 posts)It is great news, even this long after the event.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,472 posts)https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/iowa-officially-gives-buttigieg-largest-delegate-count-followed-closely-sanders-n1132531
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/09/iowa-democrats-buttigieg-edges-sanders-for-delegates-112965
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/iowa-democratic-party-projects-pete-buttigieg-the-winner-of-the-delegate-race-with-bernie-sanders-preparing-a-challenge/2020/02/09/9d7082e0-4b98-11ea-bf44-f5043eb3918a_story.html
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/9/21125703/iowa-caucuses-2020-final-results-pete-buttigieg-wins
And several thousand more. Feel free to Google.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,323 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Bernie got the most votes. On both allocations. Who won is I guess debatable, but based on the principle of whoever gets most votes wins an election, which Im guessing most Dem voters would agree with, the winner is Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hav
(5,969 posts)Not sure why people would even pretend that this is not the case.
And I'm pretty certain most would agree that the person with the majority of delegates will be the winner in the end.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,472 posts)The only thing that matters is delegates.
"I have no idea how this works but Bernie won" is not a compelling argument. It's a disingenuous assertion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)It shouldn't be up to debate, but I guess some people are trying to debate it.
So I guess all the people in the country who think that an election winner is the person who gets the most votes will come out if considering Bernie the winner.
And all the people who think that vote totals should be put through some weird formula to determine the winner will think it's Pete.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say there's more people in the first category than the second.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emulatorloo
(44,133 posts)caucus. It is not going to kill you to stop spinning for a minute and congratulate Mayor Pete for a close victory.
Bernies advocates on the unity commission fought hard to keep the Iowa Caucus over the suggestion that states move to Primaries. Senator Sanders knew exactly what he was getting into.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,472 posts)The people who think Bernie won are either deluding themselves or being willfully disingenuous.
It all starts with Sanders. He, of course, fully understands the process and yet chooses to lie about it, for reasons that only he knows.
Well, the reasons are obvious. Whatever it takes to win, including misleading his supporters into repeating a lie, making them look a little misinformed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Even Pete has said that he believes the popular vote is the best way to decide elections in a democracy. That's because it is. And Bernie won it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,472 posts)Sanders knows exactly how all of this works. He is flat-out lying about the only results that matter - the delegates.
Repeating the lie over and over and over again doesn't make it any less of an untruth. It is still quite simply false.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Most people without a pre-existing bias towards one candidate or another would, I imagine, consider votes more significant.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emulatorloo
(44,133 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)in the prediction markets and in the forecasts from 538. So it seemed to go pretty well for him, despite people trying to pretend he didn't "win".
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emulatorloo
(44,133 posts)rather than converting caucus states to primaries.
I expect 538s model will change as more data comes in.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
radical noodle
(8,003 posts)You and I both know that bernie would be yelling from the rooftops that he won if he'd had the most delegates and someone else had the most votes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dsc
(52,163 posts)Even when the primary vote is used to allocate all the delegates. In multi CD states, which is most states, many delegates are given out by CD. Given that some CD's have lots of Democratic votes and others not so much, the number of delegates given out per district varies. Coupled with the 15% rule, that can lead to radically different splits from the same percentage of the vote. Depending upon turnout rates you could easily win CD with few delegates by more than you lost those with a lot of them but not have gained any delegates from the ones you won while your opponent(s) gain from those you lost.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
throw out Iowa caucus votes since they cant seem to get totals right. By the way its likely Ill vote Buttigieg. Time to go with more diverse state(s) as first in primaries.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,147 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
I'd walk 100 miles and knock on a thousand doors for Warren if it meant denying Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
aeromanKC
(3,325 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ConorDem
(14 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emulatorloo
(44,133 posts)Iowa is a caucus.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided